FlyTheNest

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 7:04 am**

Morning all.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 9:35 am**

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/01 ... his-is-wha" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The final parliamentary Brexit battle is coming: This is what it looks like

Details of Cooper and Grieve's amendments and how they're designed to work plus a strange technical move from the government the purpose of which is unclear.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 10:31 am**

Willow904 wrote:http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/01 ... his-is-wha

The final parliamentary Brexit battle is coming: This is what it looks like
Details of Cooper and Grieve's amendments and how they're designed to work plus a strange technical move from the government the purpose of which is unclear.

Thanks - I found this useful and surprisingly enjoyable!

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 10:34 am**

Good-morning, everyone

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 10:38 am**

Thousands of cases have been disrupted or delayed across England and Wales after the courts service’s main computer network repeatedly crashed, preventing lawyers and judges from working.

The communication failures, which started last week, are a significant embarrassment for the Ministry of Justice, which is investing £1.2bn in a high-profile programme promoting online hearings which aims to replace the legal profession’s traditional reliance on mountains of paperwork.

-Law courts in chaos as IT meltdown disrupts thousands of cases

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/ja ... s-of-cases" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 10:42 am**

I've been halfheartedly following the Justice department's venture. I was afraid this might happen.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 10:53 am**

Non-UK EU nationals obligations for registering and paying £65 for the process
May decides on Monday okay, forget the £65
I've been bothered by this (and more) since she proclaimed it
She fully expects people to be relieved and grateful
I'm offended by what she considers to be concessions
It's grossly unprofessional and does nothing more than create confusion

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 11:15 am**

Willow904 wrote:http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/01 ... his-is-wha

The final parliamentary Brexit battle is coming: This is what it looks like
Details of Cooper and Grieve's amendments and how they're designed to work plus a strange technical move from the government the purpose of which is unclear.

It can be reasonably presumed that its "purpose" is not good?

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 11:21 am**

citizenJA wrote:Non-UK EU nationals obligations for registering and paying £65 for the process
May decides on Monday okay, forget the £65
I've been bothered by this (and more) since she proclaimed it
She fully expects people to be relieved and grateful
I'm offended by what she considers to be concessions
It's grossly unprofessional and does nothing more than create confusion

A peasant goes to visit his Rabbi - 'Rabbi, I can't cope any more, my family, my inlaws, all trying to cope in our tiny home, I don't know what to do.' The Rabbi says 'Take your goats and your chickens and move them into the home with you'. The man is aghast but he knows the Rabbi's wisdom and does as he suggests. A week later the Rabbi sees the man again, and he looks ten years older. 'Rabbi, this really is the end.' The Rabbi says 'Move the goats and the chickens outside'. The man does so. He goes to find the Rabbi the next day. "Ah teacher, no goats, no chickens, my home is wonderful.'

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 12:00 pm**

As a member of current the Tory government Cabinet it is my understanding Geoffrey Cox's work as Attorney General is subject to scrutiny. Am I mistaken?

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 12:03 pm**

PMQ's
Apparently, there aren't many Tory MPs on set

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 12:09 pm**

Ready When You Are Mr McGill . . .

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 12:09 pm**

Good morfternoon.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 12:23 pm**

citizenJA wrote:PMQ's
Apparently, there aren't many Tory MPs on set

Yes. Corbyn pointed out that loads of them are in Davos!

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 12:48 pm**

citizenJA wrote:As a member of current the Tory government Cabinet it is my understanding Geoffrey Cox's work as Attorney General is subject to scrutiny. Am I mistaken?

No, you are quite correct.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 12:49 pm**

Tim Farron, the former Lib Dem leader, wishes May a happy Cumbria day. He invites her to join him at a reception afterwards to sample Cumbrian food.

May says, while Cumbria has good produce, so does Berkshire. (Politics Live, Guardian)

Well, that told him!

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 12:51 pm**

PorFavor wrote:
Tim Farron, the former Lib Dem leader, wishes May a happy Cumbria day. He invites her to join him at a reception afterwards to sample Cumbrian food.

May says, while Cumbria has good produce, so does Berkshire. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Well, that told him!

She's just so good at the repartee

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 12:51 pm**

PorFavor wrote:
Tim Farron, the former Lib Dem leader, wishes May a happy Cumbria day. He invites her to join him at a reception afterwards to sample Cumbrian food.

May says, while Cumbria has good produce, so does Berkshire. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Well, that told him!

truly a zinger

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 12:52 pm**

http://www.cpag.org.uk/content/disabled ... gainst-dwp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

CPAG/Sick/Disabled v UK Government/Rogue Department

http://www.cpag.org.uk/content/universa ... protection" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(Incorrect decisions which enforced "change of circumstances",thus removing so called transitional protection )
Both households in the case had no option but to claim UC after their existing benefits were stopped incorrectly and were entitled to significantly less on UC than on their previous benefits. Yet UC rules also blocked their return to legacy benefits, even after the decision to end their entitlement to their existing benefits was found to be incorrect"

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 1:12 pm**

HindleA wrote:http://www.cpag.org.uk/content/disabled ... gainst-dwp

CPAG/Sick/Disabled v UK Government/Rogue Department

http://www.cpag.org.uk/content/universa ... protection" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(Incorrect decisions which enforced "change of circumstances",thus removing so called transitional protection )

R (TD and AD) v SSWP CO/590/2018; R (Reynolds) v SSWP CO/4542/2018

This case is continuing notwithstanding the Ministerial statement and subsequent draft regulations claiming to provide transitional protection to those disabled people who have moved onto UC ahead of the managed migration process and, as a consequence, lost out on the SDP. The draft regulations do not in fact provide for a disabled adult previously in receipt of SDP to receive an equivalent top up amount in UC if they are in receipt of the LCWRA element and do not address at all the situation of disabled children.

The two cases have been listed together for hearing on 23 & 24 January 2019.

Is this case affected by the justice department computer system crashing today? Why is the case continuing? Ministerial statements were wrong, they're mistaken or liars.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 1:13 pm**

citizenJA wrote:PMQ's
Apparently, there aren't many Tory MPs on set

Many of them are preparing for the coming election?

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 1:25 pm**

As stated,the specific redress by Gov(enforced by legal action)does not address other enacted targeted cuts under UC.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 1:27 pm**

The "I didn't vote for this" Soubry etc horrifications.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 1:31 pm**

Excuse musings but what should be a red flag of extra scrutiny in self proclamations of working to a "higher power" eg "Christian"too often leads to far less."thoroughly decent man" etc

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 1:38 pm**

Or indeed deceptive terminology "simplification"

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 1:41 pm**

Not least because pursuance has made it unnecessarily and perniciously complex.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 1:53 pm**

HindleA wrote:The "I didn't vote for this" Soubry etc horrifications.

Yes, but you did.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 1:56 pm**

"unintentionally"

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 2:26 pm**

Should I order cat food? Constance has washed her paws of all decision-making.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 2:27 pm**

HindleA wrote:Excuse musings but what should be a red flag of extra scrutiny in self proclamations of working to a "higher power" eg "Christian"too often leads to far less."thoroughly decent man" etc

Theresa May starts [PMQs] by saying MPs will want to mark Holocaust Memorial Day on Sunday. It is a reminder we must all challenge prejudice and hatred, she says.

Challenging prejudice and hatred isn't something to pencil in on a Sunday, regardless of the day. Perfunctory ritual exercises aren't enough to challenge either.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 2:42 pm**

PorFavor wrote:Should I order cat food? Constance has washed her paws of all decision-making.

I have a few big boxes now of flour/yeast/pasta/rice/noodles/beans and some other things, but I have two children with Type 1 diabetes - I also have a higher than usual store of insulin and so on.

Given that a few days of secondary picketing caused supermarkets to run out of all sorts of things in 2000 it seems reasonably likely that a no deal exit will lead to some short term problems...

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 2:47 pm**

I just think re IDS and his orgs.People,from all political persuasions far too readily accepted the stated underpinning before you get to his expert status when he knew f.a.Their "six sins" of benefit receivers still retains.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 2:49 pm**

Which they are" making true" by self fulfillment eg."can't budget"

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 3:00 pm**

For better or worse ,I tend to view constant/repeated reference to religion or indeed any "faith"as a handle to offset responsibilty/cover,as if "enough".One reason as to why I dislike groupings/factions,they can result in lack of scrutiny,not least of self and often unbending/slow to change if all evidence goes against etc

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 3:03 pm**

(Apart from the Tory Party are bastards faction)

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 3:17 pm**

PorFavor wrote:Should I order cat food? Constance has washed her paws of all decision-making.

Is it necessary? She's always struck me as a self-sufficient individual.

Edward didn't earn enough allowing him the privilege of the right to remain in the UK and a chance for UK citizenship. It was the duty and right of the Home Secretary imposing fiscal requirements from non-UK, non-EU nationals in the interests of the nation. None of us dispute that. Edward was devastated. Not a day goes by without his UK relatives missing his companionship. He's safe and cared for by family elsewhere. He took his name after seeing an image of the young Tudor king. The physical resemblance was uncanny. He knew my views on the British monarchy and was reluctant telling me his choice. He needn't have worried. I hope I'm open-minded enough accepting and loving others regardless of their titles; respecting their choices, considering their meritorious characters. He's a beautiful and loving fellow, almost universally admired.

I realise my post is somewhat off-topic and hope everyone doesn't mind.

Decision-makers need understand the impact of their policies.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 3:25 pm**

HindleA wrote:(Apart from the Tory Party are bastards faction)

There's a good reason for that. In my opinion, the Tory party isn't good for too many people and country based upon their actions, legislation, policy and history. Individuals always remain people. Tory MPs must stop the harm their leadership causes.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 3:43 pm**

Rees-Mogg's suggestion is outrageous

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 4:28 pm**

Tory MPs asking May to suspend Parliament and asking the Polish PM to intervene.

It would be funny.....

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 4:48 pm**

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Tory MPs asking May to suspend Parliament and asking the Polish PM to intervene.

It would be funny.....

A month or so ago I thought about the possibility of someone asking for the suspension of Parliament. The word "prorogue" even skittered across my brain. I got as far as semi-composing a post on the subject. Then I scrubbed round the whole idea because I thought I was just being fanciful . . .

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 5:00 pm**

[Stephen]Barclay says the government does not like the way MPs have been using “humble addresses” to get private government papers. So the government has been thinking about how else it can brief MPs. He mentions confidential briefings, and briefings for select committees as option. He suggests committees work more effectively than the Commons chamber. (Politics Live, Guardian)

Or how to keep things secret?

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 6:04 pm**

Now I feel sorry for Theresa.

Arlene Foster and Nigel Dodds and their spouses had dinner with the Mays and stayed at Chequers last Friday

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 7:04 pm**

UK retail sector shed 70,000 jobs in final months of 2018 – BRC

Report comes as John Lewis is set to close Southsea store and outsource maintenance jobs
(Guardian)

I don't wish to sound melodramatic, but - that shop has been part of my life for many years; a still point that could be relied upon to do, and stock, exactly what I'd want and expect. People used to queue up to get a job there - and, if they did get one, they behaved like an actor who'd passed an audition.

I'm rather upset.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... bs-at-risk

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 7:09 pm**

Oh - and toilet facilities par excellence!

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 8:32 pm**

Suspend your brexit despair for the time it takes to read this.

Brexit has already been cancelled - and here's why they're not telling you

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 8:48 pm**

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 9:04 pm**

gilsey wrote:Suspend your brexit despair for the time it takes to read this.

Brexit has already been cancelled - and here's why they're not telling you

It will take the EU 6-8 weeks to ratify the WA as well, but if May can get parliamentary approval for the WA before 29th March the EU will almost certainly extend article 50 to create the time to complete the process. Originally the government didn't want to name a specific date for exit day in the withdrawal act, they were forced into it, meaning the withdrawal act will have to be amended if we are to leave later than the 29th and it will have to be amended/repealed if we don't leave at all. In other words, we will eventually run out of time to stay as well as run out of time to leave. The time wasted over Christmas by the futile postponement was a truly irresponsible and self-indulgent act.

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 9:25 pm**

a truly irresponsible and self-indulgent act.

When did they last do something that wasn't?

Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 9:47 pm**

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Posted: **Wed 23 Jan, 2019 9:50 pm**

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