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Re: Tuesday 29th January 2019

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PorFavor wrote:PTO
New page, new votes.......
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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I think it's rubbish that Theresa May has re-united the Conservative Party.

When she fails (as she will) to get a "new" agreement, the likes of the ERG will just use it to justify their existence and will blame both her but even more, blame the EU.
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Cooper amendment defeated.
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Cooper loses.
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Snap.
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Rumour is that 15 Labour MPs voted with the Government on Cooper.

Enough to reverse the result.
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Spelman wins!
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People did say that she might get hers through precisely because it was uncomplicated.

Brady next.
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Jon Stone

14 Labour MPs voted against the Cooper amendment to block no-deal: Ian Austin, Kevin Barron, Ronnie Campbell, Rosie Cooper, Jim Fitzpatrick, Caroline Flint, Roger Godsiff, Stephen Hepburn, Kate Hoey, John Mann, Dennis Skinner, Laura Smith, Gareth Snell, Graham Stringer
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Brady amendment -

Passes.

317 v 301 votes
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Brady passes.
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You're far too quick PF.

Where are you watching it?
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:You're far too quick PF.

Where are you watching it?
BBC - which seems to be going through an even-handed phase.
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And doesn't have Isabel Oakeshott!
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Laura K calls Corbyn's agreement to talks with May a "U-turn".

Beyond belief.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:People did say that she might get hers through precisely because it was uncomplicated.

Brady next.
It's also just expressing a preference, easy for May to disregard. Cooper's amendment was setting up the opportunity for parliament to legislate to direct May to take specific action to avoid no deal, which would have been difficult for her to dodge.

The Brady amendment passing moves us towards a Brexit that is harder in nature than May's agreement and further away from the closer ties to the EU favoured by many in opposition. So all in all not a good day.
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Willow904 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:People did say that she might get hers through precisely because it was uncomplicated.

Brady next.
It's also just expressing a preference, easy for May to disregard. Cooper's amendment was setting up the opportunity for parliament to legislate to direct May to take specific action to avoid no deal, which would have been difficult for her to dodge.

The Brady amendment passing moves us towards a Brexit that is harder in nature than May's agreement and further away from the closer ties to the EU favoured by many in opposition. So all in all not a good day.
It certainly gives the "Brexiters" the upper hand - and as they, and a lot of others will see it, the moral highground. Theresa May is either devoid of any feel for the way things work (and she's survived too long for that to be the case) or she is not (nor has she ever been) at heart as "Remain" as popular myth would have it.
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Bad news for Andrea Leadsom -
Is jam coming to a sticky end?

Health worries are damaging the sales of sugary spreads, but this doesn’t have to be the end of the preserve (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/food/shortc ... in-spreads
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PorFavor wrote:
Willow904 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:People did say that she might get hers through precisely because it was uncomplicated.

Brady next.
It's also just expressing a preference, easy for May to disregard. Cooper's amendment was setting up the opportunity for parliament to legislate to direct May to take specific action to avoid no deal, which would have been difficult for her to dodge.

The Brady amendment passing moves us towards a Brexit that is harder in nature than May's agreement and further away from the closer ties to the EU favoured by many in opposition. So all in all not a good day.
It certainly gives the "Brexiters" the upper hand - and as they, and a lot of others will see it, the moral highground. Theresa May is either devoid of any feel for the way things work (and she's survived too long for that to be the case) or she is not (nor has she ever been) at heart as "Remain" as popular myth would have it.
Although the only way to comply with the Brady amendment is be in a customs union or more!
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'Theresa's Triumph'

'On a night of high drama PM wins key Brexit vote, unites her part, crushes Corbyn... and tells EU "let's do a deal"'

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Good-evening, everyone
I've been unwell; I've recovered, mostly
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:'Theresa's Triumph'

'On a night of high drama PM wins key Brexit vote, unites her part, crushes Corbyn... and tells EU "let's do a deal"'

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I've not been able to look at the news for a few days
This headline isn't what happened, is it?
I don't like being intentionally misled
Democracy doesn't work when people are misled
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PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
British nationals who have retired to EU countries including Spain and France will no longer have their health care covered by the NHS in the event of no deal, the government has confirmed. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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If people didn't vote Tory none of this would be happening
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'MPs vote on anti-backstop...'
good lord
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Full list: amendments to May’s statement on defeat of her Brexit bill
The amendments chosen by Speaker John Bercow and how MPs voted on each one

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rexit-bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Handy article
Is it accurate?
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