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Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 7:03 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 7:39 am
by HindleA
Stabbing yourself with a fork instead of making air holes in a microwave meal is rather painful.Apologies if already known.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 7:58 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ial-fabric" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(I disagree with the "bottom"line it disregards the fundamental of non accounting of necessary extra costs and basic human rights and consequences,regardless)

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 8:00 am
by HindleA
Far more than just income.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 8:06 am
by Willow904
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... CMP=twt_gu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Legal action prompts academy to consider isolation unit criticisms
If a parent allowed their child to miss 60 days of school the council would take them to court and fine them £3,000 but when a school denies a child an education on 60 occasions they get an "outstanding" Ofsted inspection it seems.

I mean seriously, how can Ofsted inspect these academy schools, know children (including children with special educational needs) are being deprived of their education in what can only be described as abusive circumstances and actually condone it? How can anyone think this is even passing acceptable, let alone good practice? They're just taking the lazy way out. "If you don't behave in the exact manner we want we can't be bothered to educate you, we'll just put you in a box and pretend you don't exist". Back in my day, problem kids all ended up in a class together, which prevented them from disrupting other children, even if it wasn't ideal because they ended up disrupting each other, at least they were being taught and not being punished for their inability to conform to arbitrary standards.

Sorry for the rant, but how can there not be a law against treating kids like this? The outcome of this court case is that the academy chain must do a review. That's it. They could well be responsible for doing lasting psychological damage and the child protections in this country can only stretch to "maybe you should reconsider your actions"?! It's really quite frightening how we've handed the well being of so many children in this country to unsupervised amateurs with barely any checks and balances and zero accountability.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 8:14 am
by HindleA
"Rant"justified IMHO.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 8:17 am
by HindleA
Suing makers of microwave meal for non warning of moving thumb away

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 8:43 am
by Willow904
Steve Bullock
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EU: Did you really sell it though?
PM: I really did!
EU: But you [checks notes] voted against it
PM: Er
EU: and told your MPs to vote against it
PM: well
EU: and now you want concessions
PM: yes
EU: that would mean it wasn't a backstop
PM: er
EU: You see our concerns here, right?
2:28 PM · Jan 29, 2019
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Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 8:48 am
by RogerOThornhill
Morning all. Usual busy Wednesday so I won't be here for long...
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Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 8:51 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
HindleA wrote:Stabbing yourself with a fork instead of making air holes in a microwave meal is rather painful.Apologies if already known.
Not known to Theresa May it seems.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 9:32 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

I thought that Faisal Islam was moving to the BBC in January. Did I imagine it? It's the 30th of January today, and I notice that he's still working for Sky TV.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 9:42 am
by PorFavor
Ha! Adam Bolton (Sky) has just described the views of Tim Newton (Express) and others who claim that there will be no problems associated with a no deal "Brexit" as "just pig ignorant"!

He's not a man I usually like.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 10:06 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -secretary" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 10:19 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Enjoy! Mr Bryce maybe cycling to Downing Street meeting later today (6,6).

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 10:25 am
by gilsey
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Honestly think we are at the stage where the public would be better informed if news programs just imposed a blanket ban on politicians, certainly front bench ones. It is so hard to understand anything when 90 per cent of the voices you hear are only there to mislead you.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 11:29 am
by PorFavor
'May can no longer be trusted': European press condemns PM (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ondemns-pm

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 11:31 am
by AnatolyKasparov
HindleA wrote:Stabbing yourself with a fork instead of making air holes in a microwave meal is rather painful.Apologies if already known.
Is this some sort of Brexit metaphor?

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 11:33 am
by adam
Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... CMP=twt_gu
Legal action prompts academy to consider isolation unit criticisms
If a parent allowed their child to miss 60 days of school the council would take them to court and fine them £3,000 but when a school denies a child an education on 60 occasions they get an "outstanding" Ofsted inspection it seems.

I mean seriously, how can Ofsted inspect these academy schools, know children (including children with special educational needs) are being deprived of their education in what can only be described as abusive circumstances and actually condone it? How can anyone think this is even passing acceptable, let alone good practice? They're just taking the lazy way out. "If you don't behave in the exact manner we want we can't be bothered to educate you, we'll just put you in a box and pretend you don't exist". Back in my day, problem kids all ended up in a class together, which prevented them from disrupting other children, even if it wasn't ideal because they ended up disrupting each other, at least they were being taught and not being punished for their inability to conform to arbitrary standards.

Sorry for the rant, but how can there not be a law against treating kids like this? The outcome of this court case is that the academy chain must do a review. That's it. They could well be responsible for doing lasting psychological damage and the child protections in this country can only stretch to "maybe you should reconsider your actions"?! It's really quite frightening how we've handed the well being of so many children in this country to unsupervised amateurs with barely any checks and balances and zero accountability.
I very much agree with this and I think there is a bit of wider context to go with it too. It's impossible to understand how a school can get away with isolating a student without work. Isolation (or even 'not actual isolation' but just moving to a smaller group) is absurd without making sure that they have an opportunity to continue their curriculum in the closest possible way to being in the classroom.

Isolation as a pretence that 'we don't exclude people' is a real problem, and isolation as a result of cuts that mean that you have NQTs everywhere (there are outstandingly good NQTs but as a generalisation more experienced teachers will do a better job for more vulnerable students) and you are losing LSA's everywhere is a real problem. Isolation has its place, sometimes, in an organised way, for a limited period of time and with work provided for students to get on with.

Our longer term strategy, for what it's worth, is to try 'swapping' kids with other schools if they seem to have reached the end of the line about behaviour. Both get a new start in a new school, and we do it with the agreement of parents and ideally with at least the acceptance of the kids.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 11:42 am
by Willow904
Northamptonshire county council were the 8th cheapest council tax authority in 2014/15, charging a third less (over £500) a year than the most expensive authorities.

Like Somerset, part of Northamptonshire's problem is successive years of not putting council tax up, thus falling further and further behind, although, again like Somerset, wasting money on privatising services that are cheaper to provide in house certainly hasn't helped either.

They're a big, embarrassing advert for how Tory policies, when followed to the letter with zeal and enthusiasm, simply don't work. Will voters learn the lessons, though? Or still demand tax cuts and support inefficient and expensive outsourcing and privatisations?

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 11:48 am
by PorFavor
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ial-fabric

(I disagree with the "bottom"line it disregards the fundamental of non accounting of necessary extra costs and basic human rights and consequences,regardless)

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Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 1:21 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Willow904 wrote:Will voters learn the lessons, though? Or still demand tax cuts and support inefficient and expensive outsourcing and privatisations?
Whilst simultaneously demanding top-notch services, of course.......

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 1:43 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
HindleA wrote:Stabbing yourself with a fork instead of making air holes in a microwave meal is rather painful.Apologies if already known.
Is this some sort of Brexit metaphor?
I already did that ;-)

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 2:06 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Great minds think alike, again :)

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 2:17 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Fools.... :twisted:

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 2:36 pm
by adam
A High Court judge has ruled that Barclays can shift assets worth €190bn to its Irish division as it “cannot wait any longer” amid continuing political uncertainty. The judgement, which was published yesterday, says: “Due to the continuing uncertainty over whether there might be a ‘no-deal’ Brexit, the Barclays group has determined that it cannot wait any longer to implement the scheme.”
Guardian

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 3:43 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/ng-i ... five-years" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 3:46 pm
by HindleA
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... ainlyMacro+(mainly+macro" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)&m=1

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 3:47 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Juncker: "The withdrawal agreement is the best and only deal possible. The European Union said so in November, we said so in December, we said so after the first meaningful vote in the Commons in January. The debate and vote in the House of Commons do not change that."

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 3:48 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
I note Juncker didn't start his words with "Let me be very clear"!

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 4:10 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Juncker: "The withdrawal agreement is the best and only deal possible. The European Union said so in November, we said so in December, we said so after the first meaningful vote in the Commons in January. The debate and vote in the House of Commons do not change that."
Though he actually means "this is the best deal possible as long as the PM sticks to her red lines". Let's not forget that.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 4:20 pm
by citizenJA
Northamptonshire's bankrupt council given OK for 2% tax hike
Local government secretary’s decision ‘pushes cost of failure on to local people’
you got to be kidding me

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 4:20 pm
by citizenJA
Good-afternoon, everyone

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 4:23 pm
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
HindleA wrote:Stabbing yourself with a fork instead of making air holes in a microwave meal is rather painful.Apologies if already known.
Is this some sort of Brexit metaphor?
:lol:

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 4:32 pm
by citizenJA
Willow904 wrote:
Northamptonshire county council were the 8th cheapest council tax authority in 2014/15, charging a third less (over £500) a year than the most expensive authorities.

Like Somerset, part of Northamptonshire's problem is successive years of not putting council tax up, thus falling further and further behind, although, again like Somerset, wasting money on privatising services that are cheaper to provide in house certainly hasn't helped either.

They're a big, embarrassing advert for how Tory policies, when followed to the letter with zeal and enthusiasm, simply don't work. Will voters learn the lessons, though? Or still demand tax cuts and support inefficient and expensive outsourcing and privatisations?
You're right of course. My first thought was for people who can't afford it, people not responsible for this foul up being made to pay for it.

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 4:44 pm
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Juncker: "The withdrawal agreement is the best and only deal possible. The European Union said so in November, we said so in December, we said so after the first meaningful vote in the Commons in January. The debate and vote in the House of Commons do not change that."
Though he actually means "this is the best deal possible as long as the PM sticks to her red lines". Let's not forget that.
Has that fact been present in UK news reports today? It's the only withdrawal agreement possible given May's red lines?

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 5:47 pm
by gilsey
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bris ... nd-2485790" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:D

Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Wed 30 Jan, 2019 5:49 pm
by gilsey
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Re: Wednesday 30th January 2019

Posted: Thu 31 Jan, 2019 4:22 am
by tinybgoat
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/can-a-better-deal- ... -backstop/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Can ‘A Better Deal’ replace the Backstop?"
. One of the annexes to this protocol (on ‘Irish Border Measures’) is set to “continue in force” even if the protocol is terminated, “and the Parties shall agree such modifications and additions necessary for its provisions to continue to take effect”. So an annex to a protocol would not only remain active but also be supported by new measures from both sides to ensure this is the case. The EU has long sought ‘flexible and imaginative’ solutions for the unique circumstances of Ireland, but this proposal is verging on contorted and insane’.