Thursday 31st January 2019

Post by **refitman** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:04 am

Morning all.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:22 am

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... e-deficits" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Academy schools struggle with ‘unsustainable’ deficits
Many schools in England forced into mergers despite years of cost-cutting

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:23 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... pensioners" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:29 am

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... d-unveiled" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Plan to transform transport across north of England unveiled

https://transportforthenorth.com/press-releases/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:36 am

Good-morning, everyone

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:38 am

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... d-unveiled

Plan to transform transport across north of England unveiled

https://transportforthenorth.com/press-releases/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As John Prescott said, this sounds like another fraud. Which of these schemes are they actually starting?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:45 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... d-unveiled

Plan to transform transport across north of England unveiled

https://transportforthenorth.com/press-releases/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As John Prescott said, this sounds like another fraud. Which of these schemes are they actually starting?

On the roads, plans include links between Sheffield and Manchester, via a trans-Pennine Tunnel beneath the A628 Woodhead Pass, and the A66 between Scotch Corner and Penrith.

Anything involving tarmacked area for automobiles

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 8:04 am

GP services are set for their biggest overhaul in more than 15 years under plans to be confirmed by NHS England.

Under the new five-year contract, more than 20,000 staff will be funded to help GP practices work together as part of a local primary care network, NHS England said. It is hoped the recruits – including pharmacists, physios, paramedics, physician associates and social prescribing support workers – will help free up GPs for patients who need them most.

NHS England’s chief executive, Simon Stevens, said the deal was the first major pillar in implementing the NHS long-term plan, which was published three weeks ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -schedules" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The video patient-GP consultations by the year 2021 sounds adventuresome

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 8:14 am

https://transportforthenorth.com/northe ... ouse-rail/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 8:33 am

citizenJA wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... d-unveiled

Plan to transform transport across north of England unveiled

https://transportforthenorth.com/press-releases/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As John Prescott said, this sounds like another fraud. Which of these schemes are they actually starting?
On the roads, plans include links between Sheffield and Manchester, via a trans-Pennine Tunnel beneath the A628 Woodhead Pass, and the A66 between Scotch Corner and Penrith.
Anything involving tarmacked area for automobiles

Indeed.

Though if you were to build a new road, the trans-Pennine Tunnel is actually quite a sensible idea. But nothing that expensive gets built unless it leads to London.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 8:40 am

HindleA wrote:https://transportforthenorth.com/northe ... ouse-rail/

York doesn't look so far away from the Midlands on that map

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 8:44 am

Respectfully ,suggest take it up with them.Provision of information is given freely and takes effort.

Post by **adam** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 8:55 am

citizenJA wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://transportforthenorth.com/northe ... ouse-rail/
York doesn't look so far away from the Midlands on that map

I'm in the Midlands. My daughter's in York. It's a long way.

Post by **adam** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 9:12 am

Institute for Government report on the UK's readiness, looking at legislation and implementation, for a no-deal exit at the end of March. There is not a complete absence of green, but it is still the least 'traffic-lighty' use of a traffic light system I've seen - a good visual metaphor for the country being at a standstill.

I went to a CLP meeting last night which debated leave policy motions and which was one of the worst political meetings I've ever been to (and I went to SU meetings about Northern Ireland and No Platform). A huge festering pile of macho bullshit, people desperately trying to outdo each other's working class credentials, which dismissed out of hand a Women's Forum motion on the need to think again by describing it as 'a smokescreen for liberal democrat infiltrators' and, in one of those moments that is emblematic of the whole process, dismissed two motions discussing the wish for a further referendum without actually passing any policy about what to do at all.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 9:58 am

Telegraph Politics
‏@TelePolitics
2 minutes ago

Britain must pay the £39 billion Brexit bill even if it leaves the EU without a deal, the European Commission has warned

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 10:29 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Telegraph Politics
‏@TelePolitics
2 minutes ago

Britain must pay the £39 billion Brexit bill even if it leaves the EU without a deal, the European Commission has warned

This is completely as expected and perfectly reasonable. Much of this money is related to past spending and future commitments based on past membership such as pensions. It has nothing to do with negotiations over our future relationship as some leave proponents have been trying to insinuate in order to convince the public we should only pay if we conclude a WA. All of this suggests a deliberate "no deal" exit against a backdrop of pretending the EU is the "bad guy". Emergency American aid in the event of "no deal" and a fast tracked trade agreement leading to our country being flooded with cheap American products is probably well advanced in it's preparations, while May and co ponce around pretending they're still trying to get a deal. I still feel the opposition's best bet is to call their bluff and vote for the WA. The country will sigh a huge sigh of relief and the Bannon backed "no deal" EU wreckers like Boris Johnson and Rees-Mogg will explode in frustration. Labour can then stop agonising over trying to remain or not and spend the transition trying to bring down a deeply divided government, while pushing the benefits of free movement of people and the single market and the negatives of "going it alone" in a world dominated by a handful of large global players who would eat us for breakfast.

Post by **adam** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 10:35 am

Willow904 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Telegraph Politics
‏@TelePolitics
2 minutes ago

Britain must pay the £39 billion Brexit bill even if it leaves the EU without a deal, the European Commission has warned
This is completely as expected and perfectly reasonable. Much of this money is related to past spending and future commitments based on past membership such as pensions. It has nothing to do with negotiations over our future relationship as some leave proponents have been trying to insinuate in order to convince the public we should only pay if we conclude a WA. All of this suggests a deliberate "no deal" exit against a backdrop of pretending the EU is the "bad guy". Emergency American aid in the event of "no deal" and a fast tracked trade agreement leading to our country being flooded with cheap American products is probably well advanced in it's preparations, while May and co ponce around pretending they're still trying to get a deal. I still feel the opposition's best bet is to call their bluff and vote for the WA. The country will sigh a huge sigh of relief and the Bannon backed "no deal" EU wreckers like Boris Johnson and Rees-Mogg will explode in frustration. Labour can then stop agonising over trying to remain or not and spend the transition trying to bring down a deeply divided government, while pushing the benefits of free movement of people and the single market and the negatives of "going it alone" in a world dominated by a handful of large global players who would eat us for breakfast.

But this deal does deliver important progress. Working with allies, we took real steps towards reform in the European Union. It is a good deal for Britain. A good deal for Europe. And above all a good deal for all our taxpayers. That is what we have delivered. And I commend this statement to the House.

David Cameron, on the present EU Budget 11 February 2013. It is the balance of our contribution to this which is, to a very large extent, what we are now required to pay.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 11:02 am

I went out yesterday evening, what was everybody else's excuse?

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 11:09 am

Nothing new to say?

Here's some news though.

Andrea Leadsom, the leader of the Commons, has just announced in business questions that the government intends to cancel the February recess.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 11:17 am

gilsey wrote:Nothing new to say?

That hasn't always stopped us previously

Post by **adam** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 11:29 am

The rough sleeping stories suggest that there has been a fall in national numbers. The data suggests a fall of 74 people over the last year. It's interesting to note that similar research suggests that around 600 rough sleepers have died on the streets over the last year.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 11:57 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
gilsey wrote:Nothing new to say?
That hasn't always stopped us previously

Brexhaustion.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 12:08 pm

I prefer "Brexistenial Despair".

(not my invention, I hasten to add)

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 12:17 pm

adam wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://transportforthenorth.com/northe ... ouse-rail/
York doesn't look so far away from the Midlands on that map
I'm in the Midlands. My daughter's in York. It's a long way.

I lived many years in California
Family there wonder why I'm not regularly climbing Snowdon and touring Scotland weekends

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 12:20 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:I went out yesterday evening, what was everybody else's excuse?

I looked at maps of North Wales near the heater

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 12:30 pm

Sounds exciting

Post by **adam** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 2:49 pm

The hunt for the golden unicorn continues - Nick Timothy's latest plan (telegraph - paywalled) ...

If even an invisible Irish border is unacceptable to the EU, another option is available: a customs territory comprising the UK and Ireland. The Republic could remain in the EU but leave its customs union, agreeing instead a common commercial policy including matching tariffs with the UK.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 4:03 pm

adam wrote:The hunt for the golden unicorn continues - Nick Timothy's latest plan (telegraph - paywalled) ...

If even an invisible Irish border is unacceptable to the EU, another option is available: a customs territory comprising the UK and Ireland. The Republic could remain in the EU but leave its customs union, agreeing instead a common commercial policy including matching tariffs with the UK.

So now we're proposing completely bespoke, novel relationships with the EU - for other people's countries, who don't even want to leave the EU?!!!!

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 6:13 pm

Good morfternoon.

It's snowing here.

And thank you to David Lammy.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 6:28 pm

For what exactly?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 6:35 pm

Racist Tory comedian, little James, appears to be the male offspring of Mr Lammy (3,8).

HINT: not an anagram

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 6:36 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:For what exactly?

Re: Labour MPs condemn what they claim is government attempt to 'bribe' them with community funding (Guardian)

David Lammy "Tweeted" about those Labour MPs (including - surprise, surprise - John Mann) who appear susceptible to bribery:

David Lammy
‏Verified account @DavidLammy

David Lammy Retweeted James Melville

More fool them. Socialists my arse. Cowards and facilitators. History will be brutal.

Edited - typos

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 6:49 pm

PorFavor wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:For what exactly?
Re: Labour MPs condemn what they claim is government attempt to 'bribe' them with community funding (Guardian)

David Lammy "Tweeted" about those Labour MPs (including - surprise, surprise - John Mann) who appear susceptible to bribery:

David Lammy
‏Verified account @DavidLammy

David Lammy Retweeted James Melville

More fool them. Socialists my arse. Cowards and facilitators. History will be brutal.

Edited - typos

Thank you for thanking Lammy

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:02 pm

Command Marx to go spinning for aptly named delegate at UKIP conference (6,3,6).

https://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/media ... ot-5258390" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:11 pm

Its one thing falling for a bribe, quite another falling for one from somebody with such a past track record of "terminological inexactitudes" as the present PM.

Seriously, any Labour MP buying this needs their bumps feeling.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:11 pm

People pointing out on Twitter that, despite cancelling the February recess, the Government isn't using the extra time to bring the backlog of Brexit legislation to the House.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 7:21 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Command Marx to go spinning for aptly named delegate at UKIP conference (6,3,6).

https://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/media ... ot-5258390" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Max - as in - all the way up to eleven?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 9:50 pm

Willow904 wrote:
adam wrote:The hunt for the golden unicorn continues - Nick Timothy's latest plan (telegraph - paywalled) ...

If even an invisible Irish border is unacceptable to the EU, another option is available: a customs territory comprising the UK and Ireland. The Republic could remain in the EU but leave its customs union, agreeing instead a common commercial policy including matching tariffs with the UK.

So now we're proposing completely bespoke, novel relationships with the EU - for other people's countries, who don't even want to leave the EU?!!!!

It's related to the madness of declaring war

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 9:51 pm

Excellent

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 10:15 pm

Also good

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 10:32 pm

On this note, today's Daily Mash is uncomfortably accurate about the BBC's reporting of Brexit.......

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 10:39 pm

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA
thank you

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 31 Jan, 2019 10:57 pm

There has been a by-election in the City Of London. Previously an Independent seat, it stayed that way with only one of the six candidates having a party label.

That person was from the SDP (the very pro-Brexit "continuity continuity" version) and they scored a grand total of......ZERO votes. Nil, nowt, zilch, nul points, zaro pwan.

Even given that the City's wards are tiny and barely 100 people voted overall, that is still pretty.....erm......impressive.