Thursday 7th February 2019

[refitman]

Morning all.

[HindleA]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pass ... il-network" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Passenger views sought on bid to extend pay-as-you-go on rail network

(Can:t find actual consultation as yet)


https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... r-evidence" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Open consultation

Light rail and other rapid transit solutions in cities and towns: call for evidence

[tinybgoat]

"Donald Tusk's special place in hell looks like where we are right now"(Grace)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -right-now" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Quite an interesting thread on why Labour's Brexit policy is not silly

https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[tinybgoat]

https://app.standard.co.uk/2019/02/01/b ... ntent.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Brexit will finish off our current leaders, says Tory MP Nick Boles"

Do you remember years ago when Theresa May stood astride the party conference stage and said: “You know what some people call us?” Dramatic pause. “The nasty party.” Well Nick Boles MP has a confession. “It was me,” he says. “The first person who called us the nasty party was me.”

[HindleA]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mord ... rn-to-work" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

An excellent example of othering,a more disparate set of circumstances would be impossible.The "marginalism" is of course equally governmentally enacted(and still being so,otherwise)

[AnatolyKasparov]

"Donald Tusk's special place in hell looks like where we are right now"(Grace)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -right-now" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Crace, actually - though he does often write with grace these days

[gilsey]

Quite an interesting thread on why Labour's Brexit policy is not silly

https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Govt adopt Labour proposal = ERG splits, May goes for no deal = 'moderates' split.
If May finally gets to the point where she recognises that the tory party will be destroyed either way, what will she do?

What does it say about her character that we don't have any idea? I don't anyway.

[RogerOThornhill]

"Donald Tusk's special place in hell looks like where we are right now"(Grace)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -right-now" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Crace, actually - though he does often write with grace these days

Liked this bit...

The Tusk fallout only really started when PMQs was over. Andrea Leadsom, one of the cabinet’s many useful idiots, was first out of the blocks. She was absolutely devastated. DEVASTATED. She couldn’t believe the EU council president had been so spiteful. We were supposed to be friends, allies and neighbours. It was totally unreasonable for the EU not to completely rewrite its own rulebook for its member states when the UK decided it couldn’t agree to something to which it had already agreed. If Brexit ended in tears then it would be the EU’s fault. You have to work quite hard to be that dim.

[gilsey]

Quite an interesting thread on why Labour's Brexit policy is not silly

https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And why PV supporters shouldn't diss it.

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The Columnist
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@Sime0nStylites
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Priority 2 is then to work out what that deal might be. That’s the point of the Labour letter, which is a directionally consistent pivot to a Norway like position.

[AnatolyKasparov]

One less noticed comment from Tusk yesterday was effectively pronouncing a second referendum dead, at any rate until we have actually left the EU.

[gilsey]

Or to put it more bluntly

Ally Fogg
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It's not like the Tory party is suddenly going to see the wisdom of a permanent customs union & whatever compromises are necessary to get access to the single market, are they? So Corbyn is basically just finding a very diplomatic way of saying "Go fuck yourself Treeza"

[gilsey]

One less noticed comment from Tusk yesterday was effectively pronouncing a second referendum dead, at any rate until we have actually left the EU.

I can see why he thinks that, but it's not up to him.

[HindleA]

https://inews.co.uk/news/real-life/man- ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[AnatolyKasparov]

One less noticed comment from Tusk yesterday was effectively pronouncing a second referendum dead, at any rate until we have actually left the EU.

I can see why he thinks that, but it's not up to him.

Well given that there is nowhere near a majority for it in the Commons, things aren't exactly looking bright on that front at the minute.

[HindleA]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

http://www.leweseye.co.uk/social-securi ... ?fbclid=Iw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Lost Soul]

One less noticed comment from Tusk yesterday was effectively pronouncing a second referendum dead, at any rate until we have actually left the EU.

I can see why he thinks that, but it's not up to him.

I think it was a regretful observation from Tusk - with which I'd agree .

'During his press conference with Varadkar, Tusk also claimed there was a void of leadership at the heart of the remain movement and appeared to lament Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn’s failure to back moves towards a second referendum.

“At the moment, the pro-Brexit stance of the UK prime minister, and the leader of the opposition, rules out this question,” Tusk said. “Today, there is no political force and no effective leadership for remain. I say this without satisfaction, but you can’t argue with the facts.” '

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/fe ... tions-cuts" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


MoJ pledges £6.5m for legal aid services as review questions cuts
Review of cuts imposed in 2013 suggests savings may simply have shifted costs elsewhere

[HindleA]

Vote for expensive misanthropy
Vote Tory.

[citizenJA]

Good-afternoon, everyone

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Disorientated swine moth threatens to leave Labour (4,5).

[RogerOThornhill]

Yep, all going swimmingly...

Bank forecasts worst year for UK since 2009

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47155537

The Bank of England expects growth this year to be the slowest since 2009 when the economy was in recession.

It is forecasting growth of 1.2% this year, down from its previous forecast of 1.7% made in November.

The Bank said it had seen further evidence that businesses were being cautious in the run-up to Brexit, including evidence from its own survey of firms.

[AnatolyKasparov]

Disorientated swine moth threatens to leave Labour (4,5).

**** Chuka??

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Disorientated swine moth threatens to leave Labour (4,5).

**** Chuka??

[refitman]

Disorientated swine moth threatens to leave Labour (4,5).

**** Chuka??

It's ice-cream man, isn't it. Forget his name.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

That's the one

[citizenJA]

Stay together, everyone
we break, we're lost

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Outstanding

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Scathing

[AnatolyKasparov]

As a certain former football manager might say - "lads, its Nick Cohen"

[RogerOThornhill]

I noticed that Brandan O'Fuckwit got a little bit triggered about Tusk's comment...

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It’s useful to be reminded every now and then just how much the Brussels oligarchy hates us. So let’s be grateful to Donald Tusk, president of the European Council, for his slipped-mask comment today. He effectively condemned to hell the 17.4million Britons who voted for Brexit. In a press conference with Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, who chortled along, naturally, Tusk wondered out loud what ‘special place in hell’ there will be for those who ‘those who promoted Brexit without even a sketch of a plan of how to carry it out safely’. The diplomatic facade fell and here we had Eurocrat elitism in all its rawness and nastiness: they really do view those who dissent from their illiberal, undemocratic writ as evil beings, sinners, disrupters of decency, destined for the furthest reaches of hell itself.

There you go - with one word you can change the target of the original quote. Rank dishonesty but no surprise there.

[citizenJA]

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

[AnatolyKasparov]

Such a lovely weaselly word, "effectively".

[RogerOThornhill]

Yes, with it you can do a "You didn't really mean what you said - what you meant was [insert own position here]" with ease.

Spiked's tweet of that article was retweeted as "Exactly"" by the current, and most extreme leader, yet of UKIP...if that was me I'd worry about the kind of people who agree with me...

[Sky'sGoneOut]

Tonight Question Time was from Motherwell...

Nah I think I'm just about done with this now. I'd very much like to know how you manage to arrange a 'representative' audience in a town that voted SNP for Westminister and Holyrood that was overwhelmingly hostile to the SNP member of panel. In Scotland the polls for Westminister currently have the SNP regaining seats, the Tories being reduced to single figures and Labour being practically wiped out. And yet watching that tonight you'd think the people of Motherwell (and Scotland in general) thought the SNP deserved a special place in hell.

I've spent years defending the BBC, but tonight was a bellwether for me, it's increasingly obvious the private production company who choose the audience (who got caught inviting the EDL and BNP) aren't fit for purpose unless that purpose is that of the BBC themselves. And what that purpose it seems isn't just to liven things up but to reflect a particular political point of view. In Remain areas of England we're presented with loads of shouty Brexiters, but in Brexit areas do we get a bunch of remainers sitting prominently in the front row getting their questions answered? Do we fuck. And so tonight in Scotland who was sitting smack bang in the middle of the front row getting his question in and being allowed to rant at length? A unionist anti-SNP blowhard being cheered on by most of the audience in Motherwell that voted SNP in national and Scottish elections.

So yeah, I'm done trying to defend the BBC and done with Question Time.

Which given it was my only purpose here besides being the drunk guy on drugs leaves me with few options.

[Sky'sGoneOut]

Oh and also my hard drive on this PC is/could be about to fail (154 reallocated sectors if that means anything to you) so everytime I power the damn thing up it's like having a sword of Damocles over my head. I ordered a new drive via Novatech on Monday and so far have received zilch despite paying £5.99 for the pleasure of next day delivery. Apparently they're looking into the issue. I wish I'd just gone with Amazon now and not been such a virtue signalling leftie.