Saturday 16th & Sunday 17th February 2019

Post by **refitman** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 6:39 am

Morning all

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:33 am

Have introduced,beyond single/return journeys no cash payment availability on my bus.In simplifying they have reduced my one way journey to scone research facility by ten pence.I will invest wisely.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:36 am

I prefer skon rather than skown purely for fastest cake in the World references.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:38 am

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... ays-rayner" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Labour would end free market in higher education, says Rayner

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:49 am

I get a lift back,clarification,it is not a kidnap scenario.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:53 am

As yet

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 10:25 am

Tory response to the school strike seems a tad misjudged unless they've already written off their electoral chances 10 years ahead.

Compare and contrast with Magic Magid who's told Sheffield kids if they get any bother from the teachers he'll come and sort them out.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 10:45 am

People died for such freedoms,how dare they exercise it,or something.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 10:45 am

Obviously,not the same people.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 10:55 am

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... es-parents" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 11:15 am

You would think they would welcome some respite from left wing indoctrination.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 12:15 pm

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While Tories mean-spiritedly begrudge civically responsible youngsters a single day off school, the video in this tweet really brings home the consequences of putting rules before outcomes.

My autistic son is really struggling under this system. After a great start under Labour with child centred learning and plenty of money for TAs and extracurricular activities, the obsession with petty rules and bureaucracy and the pressure to conform and perform that he is facing in an Academy secondary school under the Tories is absolutely crushing him. Sometimes it all gets too much and he refuses to go. Unable to get the school to take seriously the difficulties he is facing, I am being held responsible for his poor attendance and have been referred to the council for prosecution. He was only formally diagnosed with ASD in September 2018 after a long assessment process, but instead of getting the extra support I'd hoped for I've just faced escalating pressure over his ASD related absences. I'm finding dealing with school extremely intimidating and confusing, with lots of contradictory information and all the time I'm having to try to support my son through all the challenges of moving up to year 10 and starting his GCSEs which is hard enough on its own without facing the possibility of being sent to jail if I fail.

If anyone out there could reassure me that the council are far less dicks over this kind of thing than ambitious head teachers with an obsession with league tables and being "the best of the best" and are unlikely to take a heavy handed approach with the bemused parents of a recently diagnosed child I'd appreciate it because I have to confess I'm absolutely terrified.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 1:15 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ours-study" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 3:41 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ip-hammond" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 5:49 pm

Bl**dy gout is back

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:00 pm

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:01 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ncertainty" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FlyBMI collapses, blaming Brexit uncertainty
East Midlands airline cancels all flights and tells aircrew not to come to work

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:04 pm

I was looking at their flights to Brussels last night as it happens.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:09 pm

Grayling attacked over 'disastrous' part-privatisation of probation service
Private provider Working Links went bust just as it was found playing down offender risk

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... king-links" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:10 pm

Brussels?

An interesting choice of holiday destination.

Or is there something you're not telling us? You're not an EU spy are you?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:12 pm

FWIW

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... inion-poll" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:21 pm

Brother lives there/Marathon in October.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:23 pm

HindleA wrote:

Have taken some painkillers and am feeling a bit better, absolute downer though.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:24 pm

Bloody Tories (always their fault)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:25 pm

Did you ever get gout under Labour?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:31 pm

Note it doesn't necessarily mean I am not a spy.Sister in law secretary of the Brussels Labour Party.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:33 pm

I have no doubt there will still be digging the roads up(the same ones)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:40 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ic-blunder" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:47 pm

@Willow904
Please know I love and care for you and your family.
Give my love to all.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:51 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Bl**dy gout is back

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 8:54 pm

'Evening, all

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 9:28 pm

That's some hard news on today's thread.
I'm so sorry

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 9:40 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ncertainty

FlyBMI collapses, blaming Brexit uncertainty
East Midlands airline cancels all flights and tells aircrew not to come to work

"The company, which employs 376 staff and operates more than 600 scheduled flights a week, announced that it had gone into administration. Earlier reports had suggested it was looking for further funding, but the company said the challenges created by Brexit had proved “insurmountable”."

It's not easy starting new businesses. It takes more time and resources. Breaking things is easier than creating them.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 9:56 pm

Thank goodness Nick Cohen isn't ideological.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 10:53 pm

I see Dugher has announced his resignation from the Labour Party in....the Sun.

Talk about hitting your target audience.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 11:18 pm

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/univers ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just one (of many)linked consequences.
No surprise at the no tick box,there wasn't one for us,ie.not a new thing when changes occur and I still think some of the pharmacy staff didn't get why I (on the rare occurrence)didn't pay when not in my name.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 11:20 pm

Exempt on medical grounds.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 11:28 pm

I suppose you can either bemoan/present as burdensome as to illness/disability or accept it happens despite your inherent superiority and a function of personal responsibility and account in the most cost effective manner.The repeated "of course" (we look after the most vulnerable) is,of course,a clear indication that the narrative is skewed and failing even in those terms.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 11:32 pm

refitman wrote:I see Dugher has announced his resignation from the Labour Party in....the Sun.

Talk about hitting your target audience.

Interesting to read the bit in wiki about Dugher and his political views...

Dugher has held the post of Vice-Chair of Labour Friends of Israel (LFI).[23] He has criticised the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign, saying "Boycotting Israeli institutions is ignorant, wrong and counterproductive to peace. We should be building bridges and furthering dialogue".[24][25]

He gave a keynote speech at the 'We Believe in Israel’ conference, where he said "Each time I visit Israel, my admiration for that great country grows".[26]

Following the 2015 general election, Dugher said Labour mishandled its relationship with the Jewish community through a combination of neglect and incompetence. He criticised Labour's response to the 2014 Gaza conflict and called the then Labour leader Ed Miliband’s decision to whip Labour MPs to vote for a motion recognising the State of Palestine as "catastrophic". Dugher abstained in the parliament vote on this matter, despite a three line whip and being a shadow cabinet minister.[27]

Yeah because all of the issues that the Jewish "community"* have with Labour have come about since Corbyn took over...oh...wait...

* Used as there are as many different voices as in any other religious group.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 11:34 pm

In fact,given illness/disability occurs the responsible thing to do both in personal and State terms is to increase extra costs allowances and facillitate self care.The narrative is warped in being exactly the wrong way around.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 11:36 pm

Rarely is the phrase "good riddance" meant more sincerely.

Post by **adam** » Sat 16 Feb, 2019 11:43 pm

Willow904 wrote:

While Tories mean-spiritedly begrudge civically responsible youngsters a single day off school, the video in this tweet really brings home the consequences of putting rules before outcomes.

My autistic son is really struggling under this system. After a great start under Labour with child centred learning and plenty of money for TAs and extracurricular activities, the obsession with petty rules and bureaucracy and the pressure to conform and perform that he is facing in an Academy secondary school under the Tories is absolutely crushing him. Sometimes it all gets too much and he refuses to go. Unable to get the school to take seriously the difficulties he is facing, I am being held responsible for his poor attendance and have been referred to the council for prosecution. He was only formally diagnosed with ASD in September 2018 after a long assessment process, but instead of getting the extra support I'd hoped for I've just faced escalating pressure over his ASD related absences. I'm finding dealing with school extremely intimidating and confusing, with lots of contradictory information and all the time I'm having to try to support my son through all the challenges of moving up to year 10 and starting his GCSEs which is hard enough on its own without facing the possibility of being sent to jail if I fail.

If anyone out there could reassure me that the council are far less dicks over this kind of thing than ambitious head teachers with an obsession with league tables and being "the best of the best" and are unlikely to take a heavy handed approach with the bemused parents of a recently diagnosed child I'd appreciate it because I have to confess I'm absolutely terrified.

My experience from the parent pov of this is that the council have buggered off and left us alone when we've pointed out that our daughter's poor attendance was linked to her medical condition. Until next year when they've been back again and we've had to explain again.

The council (and the school) should have policies on equal ops, and on inclusion, as should the EWO and whatever department they are in, which might be helpful. If it's an academy it's possible that the school 'contract' this stuff back to the LA but also possible that they deal with it in house. My school - the one I teach in - is an academy and we employ our own 'ewo'ish person who is very good - I will have a chat with her after half term and see what she says (if that's okay). And, as CitJA would say (and indeed has said) - love and support.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 17 Feb, 2019 12:08 am

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 17 Feb, 2019 12:49 am

The double whammy of segregation/discrimination and penalisation for "failing" to participate when of course the refusal to being and desire to emanated despite the State.This appropriation seems to have been conveniently ignored.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 17 Feb, 2019 7:43 am

I point blank refuse to sign infantile hypocritical divisive Labour party related pledge cards.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 17 Feb, 2019 7:45 am

Being so "disloyal" is the real loyalty.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 17 Feb, 2019 7:52 am

As in any relationship freedom to criticise/disagree is essential.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 17 Feb, 2019 7:53 am

Unless of course returning a Labour Government isn't really the priority.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 17 Feb, 2019 7:59 am

You don't have to conform to a parody,it isn't compulsory

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 17 Feb, 2019 8:01 am

I'm nobody but annoying us nobody's still counts.

PTO.