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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

Willow904 wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:PhilWilsonMP
‏@MPphilwilson

I was asked to go on @BBCNewsnight then told at the last minute I wasn’t required. Not true to say there was no @UKLabour voice available

Wasn't it claimed no one accepted an invite?

Presumably poor Phil Wilson is the "wrong" kind of Labour MP.

Yes exactly and people who watched clearly recalling Maitlis saying Labour were invited and failed to provide a spokesperson

Paris says UK should not get article 50 extension unless it presents new strategy
Angelique Chrisafis

Angelique Chrisafis

Paris reiterated its tough line on Tuesday afternoon, insisting no extension could be granted to the UK without the government presenting a credible “new strategy or plan” which would need to have parliament’s backing. An Elysée official said:

Playing for time just for the sake of playing for time would not constitute a project or strategy. Now is not the time for procrastinating. (Politics Live, Guardian)

Barnier mocked the idea that May could ask for a long extension and a short one too. When this was put to him, he said:

You said both short and long, well, it’s either one or the other, isn’t it?

He said everyone should “finalise all preparations for a no-deal scenario." (Politics Live, Guardian)

PorFavor wrote:Jeremy Corbyn being criticised on TV news by other Parties (LibDems and Plaid) for only being prepared to talk about, in a meeting today, his own "Brexit" ideas - which seem to exclude talking about another referendum. I think the time has come. It's now or never, I feel.

Willow904 wrote:

PorFavor wrote:Jeremy Corbyn being criticised on TV news by other Parties (LibDems and Plaid) for only being prepared to talk about, in a meeting today, his own "Brexit" ideas - which seem to exclude talking about another referendum. I think the time has come. It's now or never, I feel.

Already too late if you ask me. We had a referendum vote last Thursday, but in the most amazing piece of complacency hardly anyone backed it, even some people for whom a referendum was their preferred choice. Because they were waiting for the indicative votes on Wednesday, someone smugly and complacently informed me on twitter. Why wait another week, if you could win the vote now, I asked. What if the indicative votes don't happen, I queried. To which I received no coherent answer.

The truth is Labour failed to win the last election so the honours of negotiating a WA fell to Theresa May. And she did. I said a while back it would have been better for Labour if she didn't manage to get a deal as any negative fall out would then have been hers alone but by refusing to vote through her WA Labour are now at least partially responsible for what happens next. And we are now relying on luck and the good will of the EU for this to turn out to be anything other than a complete disaster.

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Well if we *do* get a lengthy A50 extension/cancellation then the likelihood of another referendum shoots up I would think, regardless of what Corbyn does or doesn't say.

citizenJA wrote:Lyrics from The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot are in my head now

PorFavor wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Well if we *do* get a lengthy A50 extension/cancellation then the likelihood of another referendum shoots up I would think, regardless of what Corbyn does or doesn't say.

That's, in part, my point.

By the way, I've just heard on the news that Caroline Lucas thought that the meeting with Jeremy Corbyn went quite well. So there we go - who to believe? ('Though Plaid wouldn't be my first choice for an unbiased account, I suppose.)





Edited - typo

PorFavor wrote:citizenJA made me do it!

Laura Kuenssberg
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Laura Kuenssberg Retweeted iain watson

if you are one of the people who was hoping @TheIndGroup might start to change the culture round here, you'll be depressed by this

Laura Kuenssberg added,

iain watson
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My colleague @laurencesleator reports that independent MP @IanAustinMP and tIG's @MikeGapes have been removed from the Foreign Affairs committee They will be replaced by @UKLabour MPs Catherine West and @ConorMcGinn

6:05 PM - 19 Mar 2019

BBC Politics
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Ex-Labour MPs 'booted' off Foreign Affairs Committee
8:04 PM - 19 Mar 2019

citizenJA wrote:Lyrics from The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot are in my head now

In conclusion, if the UK is unable to leave the EU in a constitutionally compliant manner by 29 March 2019, as in by an Act of Parliament, then we cannot lawfully withdraw. If an extension of time is not agreed by the EU, or as and when that extension expires, the UK’s Article 50 notice will lapse as a matter of national and supranational law, if not unilaterally withdrawn. A no-deal Brexit in the absence of parliamentary approval is, therefore, not the legal default.