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Tuesday 26th March 2019

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Mornging all.
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Mornging ;-)
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https://amp.theguardian.com/cities/2019 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tear the fucker down.Despicable.
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Awful
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Thought it rang a bell,I voted at the school once (Stuart Holland Vauxhall)
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One of those,I have difficulty in remembering what day it is but remember where I voted 36 years ago.
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PF stockpiling gin.Nothing to do with Brexit; as per.
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As purr
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Re Demos musings,abolish the DWP,elsewise their contention is discriminatory.
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From yesterday
PorFavor wrote:There was a brief item on the news. It was about the EU's "No Deal" plans (they've produced a hefty document, which I've dubbed the "No Deal Handbook") and allied stuff
I think we will start to hear more of the leave campaign saying 'see - they say they won't make side deals or allow cherry picking but they're doing it all of the time'. What's going on, and what's been going on in public for quite a while now, is that they are making arrangements to protect their interests, without reference to us save to say 'this will be available if you reciprocate. No negotiation. Arrangements that they can bring to an end or amend without reference to us, because they are their arrangements.

It's worth looking at some of the industry sector representative organisations as they talk about these plans - the Road Haulage Association's statement on the EU's no deal plans are here, for example; cabotage (foreign vehicles moving goods between two destinations in another country) is excluded, as is moving goods between two EU countries, as is moving goods from an EU country to a non-EU country - all part of common practice now.
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Steve Brine is from leave-supporting and fairly recently LibDem voting Winchester - he may be looking over his shoulder as he votes on these things.
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Morning all.

Well, this isn't odd at all is it...
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0003nw3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I think they're going to have to start paying attention to Sayeeda Warsi sooner or later.
Sooner would be good but I don't hold out much hope for it.
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Love it when the "vulnerable" kick ass.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-47695 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... ainlyMacro+(mainly+macro" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)&m=1
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JRM.
“leaving the European Union, even leaving it inadequately and having work to do afterwards is better than not leaving at all”.

Brexit may now need to be viewed as “a process rather than an event”, he said. It was, he said, a “process of unravelling and diverging which will take time”.
The second sentence was always obvious to most of us.
I suspect 'having work to do afterwards' is code for a new PM ripping up the WA.
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5.7m.
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An obvious pitch.
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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... -estimated" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Schools funding shortfall of £5.4bn 'worse than estimated
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Nardelli makes an excellent point.
Given 1) time available 2) specific purpose of the exercise & EU position 3) core of the problem (red lines: tradeoffs vs cherry picking), MPs should consider holding indicative votes on existing models in Barnier’s staircase instead of trying to create something new & unworkable
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Then when you've done that, you can add up all the votes for options that are going to need an extension of A50 and if it's a majority, start preparing for those EP elections.
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https://demos.co.uk/project/the-future-of-the-dwp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The "poverty" schtick one of the fundamental problems IMHO
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Mornging, everyone
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So the question is, did Kuenssberg not know the significance of "Grand Wizards" - or not care?

Neither reflects terribly well on her or indeed her employer.
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Good morngernoon anyone?
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Good morngernoon anyone?
Gnu, gnu, gnu
I'm a gnu.

Your fault if that's stuck in my head all day. Especially since I seem to be having difficulty in holding more than one thought at a time.
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PorFavor wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Good morngernoon anyone?
Gnu, gnu, gnu
I'm a gnu.

Your fault if that's stuck in my head all day. Especially since I seem to be having difficulty in holding more than one thought at a time.
TBF I'm blaming Refitman - he started it :twisted:
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Vast majority of remainers and leavers now think government has handled Brexit badly, research suggests

In a commentary on the What UK Thinks website, the polling expert John Curtice says people have got more negative about the process the longer it has gone on.

According to Sky’s Faisal Islam, Curtice has also said that public opinion has shifted to such an extent that it is now longer obvious that leaving represents the majority view of the public. (Politics Live, Gnudian)
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7% think the government has handled Brexit well in a recent poll - I was going to say "only" 7% but I'm surprised it is that high if anything.......
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DUP won't vote for May's deal and would prefer a long extension.

The justification to the EU for a long extension would be?
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Apparently there's some Bruges group event going on right now...
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Blimey, I haven't heard that used since I used to post at the Telegraph - the real loons used that one! Strangely, nobody could tell me precisely what it was or the evidence for it.
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Leadsom warns MPs their Easter recess will be shortened or cancelled.



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RogerOThornhill wrote:Apparently there's some Bruges group event going on right now...

:lol:

Blimey, I haven't heard that used since I used to post at the Telegraph - the real loons used that one! Strangely, nobody could tell me precisely what it was or the evidence for it.
Follow it here, quite amusing.

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gilsey wrote:DUP won't vote for May's deal and would prefer a long extension.

The justification to the EU for a long extension would be?
"We need time to sort our own mess out"?

Which would of course be both true and honest.
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This conversation is fascinating. They’re now taking about forming a street moment called the “Blue Shirts” to riot until Brexit is delivered. This is less menacing than it might seem given those speaking are all over 70 and wearing either blazers or fleeces.
With Jacob Rees Mogg as Roderick Spode (for those who know their Wodehouse...)
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The Blue Shirts were the Fascists in Ireland in the 1930’s!
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... 700m-a-yea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The idea that better half,or indeed vast majority of w/c users are sedentary is very amusing but how to carelessly amplify connotation and of course the look how much you are costing us.
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This conversation is fascinating. They’re now taking about forming a street moment called the “Blue Shirts” to riot until Brexit is delivered. This is less menacing than it might seem given those speaking are all over 70 and wearing either blazers or fleeces.
With Jacob Rees Mogg as Roderick Spode (for those who know their Wodehouse...)

It's all oojah-cum-spiff!
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HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... 700m-a-yea

The idea that better half,or indeed vast majority of w/c users are sedentary is very amusing but how to carelessly amplify connotation and of course the look how much you are costing us.

The link doesn't work.
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PorFavor wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Good morngernoon anyone?
Gnu, gnu, gnu
I'm a gnu.

Your fault if that's stuck in my head all day. Especially since I seem to be having difficulty in holding more than one thought at a time.
I've many thoughts and none of them let me think.
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Petition at 5,738,012
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PorFavor wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... 700m-a-yea

The idea that better half,or indeed vast majority of w/c users are sedentary is very amusing but how to carelessly amplify connotation and of course the look how much you are costing us.
The link doesn't work.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... 00m-a-year" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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PorFavor wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:
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This conversation is fascinating. They’re now taking about forming a street moment called the “Blue Shirts” to riot until Brexit is delivered. This is less menacing than it might seem given those speaking are all over 70 and wearing either blazers or fleeces.
With Jacob Rees Mogg as Roderick Spode (for those who know their Wodehouse...)

It's all oojah-cum-spiff!
Don't you mean "spaff"? :mrgreen:
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As I suspected cJA provides the missing link.
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PorFavor wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... 700m-a-yea

The idea that better half,or indeed vast majority of w/c users are sedentary is very amusing but how to carelessly amplify connotation and of course the look how much you are costing us.
The link doesn't work.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... 00m-a-year" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I've not read the study, only the article. The direct quotes from the study in the article continually reference monetary costs and behaviour - sedentary behaviour. It's disturbing and then there's this from the article:
The study does not prove cause and effect – and sicker people might be more sedentary. What’s more, not all of the data used in the lung cancer calculations was from European populations, and estimates of the risks from sedentary behaviour were gleaned from different studies with different methods.
Calculations made from data sources from outside Europe then extrapolating how much it costs the NHS is sloppy work but I'll need to read the report for confirmation.
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HindleA wrote:As I suspected cJA provides the missing link.
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Sitting=lazy was my point.An oft repeated source of "jokes" applied to w/c users eg how can you get tired when you sit all day etc.
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Of course if active,automatic suspicion.

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