Saturday 6th & Sunday 7th April 2019

Post by **refitman** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 7:44 am

Morning all.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:00 am

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/ ... e-pensions" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

New tax year giveth for the rich, but taketh away for low earners

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:04 am

I would argue worse and/or more than usually presented in rich/poor terms ie. circumstantially targeted/pernicious and creating/exacerbating needless difficulties and at increased overall expense.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:08 am

Point being such representation misses the creation facilitated by deliberate policy,I'm waffling in attempt to counter the simplism of poor v not.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:10 am

If the necessary extra is inadequate,either bespoke or simplified by removal otherwise that makes you poor(er)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:15 am

So not an attack on the poor as such as attack on judicious attention to circumstances.Suffice to say in outwith control scenarios and restricted or zero options I deem that evil.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:18 am

And restoration is not enough,it needs to be significant to counter the accumulated loss.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:23 am

And the protection line is disingenuous given non income based denials within and without the benefit system.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:44 am

An interesting week having been accused of promoting fascist propaganda and invited to be a potential Labour MEP.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:46 am

Maybe it isn't me that is confused but everybody else,most likely both.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:48 am

Cyril the some kind of black bird doing his moonwalk thing.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:50 am

I'll opt for Corbyn, thanks.

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:51 am

He meets me most mornings at the side gate,I would give him a key but he'd probably drop it.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 8:55 am

The collared doves appear to have decoupled (again)

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 9:38 am

refitman wrote:I'll opt for Corbyn, thanks.

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 10:18 am

HindleA wrote:Cyril the some kind of black bird doing his moonwalk thing.

Are you sure it's not a swift?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 10:18 am

They won't be long

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 10:19 am

Good morfternoon.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 10:28 am

Will the Commons be ready for Monday (the "Cooper bill"), I wonder? I haven't heard anything on the plumbing front.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 10:33 am

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/ ... e-pensions

New tax year giveth for the rich, but taketh away for low earners

Posted this yesterday but worth repeating.
https://fabians.org.uk/wp-content/uploa ... 4.19-1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 10:35 am

Tory MP says joining in EU elections would be ‘existential threat’ to party

Oh good.

(Zahawi)

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 10:50 am

Further, and tangentially, to yesterday's conversation -

Free short story vending machines delight commuters

‘Short story stations’ in Canary Wharf print one- three- and five-minute reads on demand
(Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/ ... -commuters

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:01 am

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:02 am

For free.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:03 am

Make your own ending

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:05 am

But don't ask why.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:10 am

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... re_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

10% Of Jobcentres Have Been Closed Since 2015 – Despite Universal Credit Rollout

Get this:

But a spokesperson for the Department of Work and Pensions defended cuts to the number of Jobcentres in the UK, saying more people were choosing to access their benefits online, “resulting in many of our buildings being underused”.

Unbelievable.

Of course, people still have to sign on, despite being forced to apply for UC online, so jobcentres being within a reasonable distance of where people live remains a necessity, regardless of how many people use them.

This article doesn't really get across the true extent of this, as it focuses on a city. In rural areas most people are looking at 10-15 miles and bus prices of £7-£8 return.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:15 am

And outwith consequences,we used the now closed to fax info in lieu of/to counter the lost in post default position to Belfast,surprisingly the option to go there and hand in we never took up.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:25 am

Suffice to say the increased purposeful disconnection at a personal level will increase fraud potentiality whilst creating barriers

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:29 am

To be fair and balanced there are winners,seven people and a whippet called Derek,financial abusers and fraudsters.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:35 am

gilsey wrote:
Tory MP says joining in EU elections would be ‘existential threat’ to party
Oh good.

(Zahawi)

They could always not contest them......

(in fact, a few Tories are suggesting exactly that)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:36 am

Fraud gone up,surprisingly quiet on that front.Similarly with blue badges,of course it would have been worse without the restoration of integrity;or something.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:38 am

Even Freud recognised the cost of impossibility outweighed the savings,that of course meant he supported fraud.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:40 am

Freudian slip, even?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 11:57 am

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 12:53 pm

HindleA wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ssion=true

Wasn't Edward Timpson a Conservative MP who lost his seat? Supposedly one of the "good guys" - a rarity in Conservative circles.

Edited - tidy up

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 12:54 pm

Indeed, it was one of the surprise results in 2017. There are suggestions that he took things a bit for granted.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:15 pm

Good-afternoon, everyone

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:21 pm

I've done some bloody silly things(no doubt more to come)and may be repeat.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:30 pm

PorFavor wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ssion=true
Wasn't Edward Timpson a Conservative MP who lost his seat? Supposedly one of the "good guys" - a rarity in Conservative circles.

Edited - tidy up

Are they members of the same family?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:33 pm

Not many people have had a fag on Bechers Brook,in the Royal Box at (old)Wembley and on top of Ayres Rock,I'm nothing if not ambitious.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:37 pm

His son.FWIW he was remain,dad was for leave.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:40 pm

citizenJA wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ssion=true
Wasn't Edward Timpson a Conservative MP who lost his seat? Supposedly one of the "good guys" - a rarity in Conservative circles.

Edited - tidy up
Are they members of the same family?

Yes - Edward Timpson is the son of the Chief Executive Officer, John Timpson. The business is a long-standing family-owned outfit.

Edited - typo

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:42 pm

I think they must have sat down at some stage,surely?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:45 pm

HindleA wrote:I think they must have sat down at some stage,surely?

Family birthdays and public holidays. And, sometimes, at dinner-time.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:47 pm

In fact, being more or less constantly on their feet gave rise to the shoe-repair thing. It takes its toll, you know.

Edited - full stop added

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:54 pm

You appear to be stricken by hyphenventilation,take care.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 1:58 pm

No full stop,either.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 2:27 pm

HindleA wrote:No full stop,either.

Bumboils. Will retrace (note - no hyphen) my steps.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 06 Apr, 2019 2:31 pm

Oh - there's a "c" in stricken (whilst we're in the mood for mutual cooperation)

Nah, nah, nee nah nah!

Edited to add -

PTO