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As the priority.
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Beyond reform.
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I've PTOd, by the way.
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As a guide to some inclines on the Sheffield half(full for some)Staggerthon there were retrieval spots with oxygen.
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HindleA wrote:Members are not exactly unknown to,the more the claim to get the Tories out the more likely it isn't.If you genuinely do you don't have to state it.


PTO
Good point. Are members protecting themselves emotionally in case Labour don't form government or are they prompted by something else?
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It wasn't that bad,though recent deaths have made them more cautious.

Referring to previous Staggerthon post not Labour Party affairs.
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For some,the same as the Tories theme is posited according to taste.
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And the not the personality lot obsess with ..personalities.
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Don't look up or too far ahead concentrate on the immediate,surprisingly often a nice posterior which is purely coincidental.
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"focus"
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In power as opposed to potential is not comparable.The crucial ,to me,missing from the last Manifesto and the now similar usage of language indicative of that.
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Competitive my view represents the memberists,I represent myself.
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We agree on the need for a deep economic relationship with our closest neighbours, and that Brexit should not be at the expense of workers’ rights or environmental protections. Indeed, the government has committed to giving MPs the right to vote on whether any future changes in EU law that strengthen workers’ rights should be adopted into UK law...

- Tory MP, David Lidington
Talks with Labour on resolving the Brexit impasse have a good chance of success
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real good of you, Lidington
Tory government concessions include government allowing MPs voting for or against strengthening workers' rights in the future

Here's Lidington's understanding of recent cross-party talks about Brexit with Labour
We share the objective of ensuring we deliver the benefits of a customs union – with no tariffs, fees, charges, or rules of origin checks. We want to keep our product standards aligned so that goods can be exported to and imported from the EU without unnecessary regulatory checks.

The key difference between us is we believe it is important that the UK has control of its own trade policy; Labour worries that this must mean tariffs, quotas and rules of origin checks that would be bad for jobs. We must find a way of squaring this circle.
Does this make any kind of sense at all? Serious question.
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I've not seen it, but I've read Andrew Marr lost patience with Lidington some hours ago
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citizenJA wrote:
We agree on the need for a deep economic relationship with our closest neighbours, and that Brexit should not be at the expense of workers’ rights or environmental protections. Indeed, the government has committed to giving MPs the right to vote on whether any future changes in EU law that strengthen workers’ rights should be adopted into UK law...

- Tory MP, David Lidington
Talks with Labour on resolving the Brexit impasse have a good chance of success
(cJA emphasis)
real good of you, Lidington
Tory government concessions include government allowing MPs voting for or against strengthening workers' rights in the future

Here's Lidington's understanding of recent cross-party talks about Brexit with Labour
We share the objective of ensuring we deliver the benefits of a customs union – with no tariffs, fees, charges, or rules of origin checks. We want to keep our product standards aligned so that goods can be exported to and imported from the EU without unnecessary regulatory checks.

The key difference between us is we believe it is important that the UK has control of its own trade policy; Labour worries that this must mean tariffs, quotas and rules of origin checks that would be bad for jobs. We must find a way of squaring this circle.
Does this make any kind of sense at all? Serious question.
Not really. If you agree a Customs Union you can't have an independent trade policy. If Lidington is still banging on about an independent trade policy, then the government isn't really shifting its red lines and is therefore not serious about coming to an agreement on a permanent Customs Union with Labour to get the WA through. I suspect May still harbours hopes of getting her deal through with mainly Tory votes and a few Labour rebels, using the spectre of otherwise having to contest the EU elections as motivation. I'll leave you to decide how realistic that is!
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Lidington's article is frightful. I'm fascinated by it it's so bad.
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Willow904 wrote:
I suspect May still harbours hopes of getting her deal through with mainly Tory votes and a few Labour rebels, using the spectre of otherwise having to contest the EU elections as motivation. I'll leave you to decide how realistic that is!
That's been bothering me for some time. Superstitiously, I've been waiting for someone else to say it.
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Theresa May has gone off walking in Snowdonia.

- The Guardian view on MPs and Brexit: this is no time to disengage
she does it to annoy me
I love hiking in Wales
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Jeremy Corbyn insisted on Saturday that May had to show more willingness to abandon her red lines in order to reach a deal. “We must see those red lines moving and we must see real compromise,” he said at the Welsh Labour conference.

“It is a challenge to negotiate with a government that’s collapsing – when you can’t be sure if commitments made by the prime minister will survive the week and when cabinet collective responsibility has given way to collective irresponsibility, with ministers contradicting each other on the airwaves.”

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A cautionary tale...

Never try to boot an older version of Windows 10 on another drive on your computer or you'll end up in a world of pain and have to spend many boring hours frustrated and angry.

I did it and it rendered this machine inoperable. No operating system found.

Had to format and reinstall.

Just saying.
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I mess around with operating systems too
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Goodnight, everyone
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