Thursday 25th April 2019

[refitman]

Morning all.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

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Peston says May is considering bringing her WA back minus the Backstop. To show that it would pass.

[AnatolyKasparov]

Hasn't she done that already?

[HindleA]

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... sal-credit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

"Food bank user Emma, 46, a former estate agent, said she was a big fan of Margaret Thatcher. Back then, she said, “if you was prepared to work you could thrive”.

Er,she was 17 when Thatcher left.

[RogerOThornhill]

Morning.

I saw a mention of it yesterday elsewhere but Matt Hancock wrote the intro to a report by the TexPayers Alliance on how to save money in the NHS by using technology.

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Page 3 has some Key Findings. Now, I might be being picky but I would have thought that these were conclusions reached from research done by the TPW...but all they've done is lifted them from other reports - notably a far longer report issued by the IPPR last year as the product of a review by Lord Darzi.

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One of their key findings came from a comment found in a Daily Telegraph article and simply quoted as fact with no further research into it.

Bordering on dishonest. The IPPR were a little bit miffed...

[HindleA]

Not picky IMHO and how is the TPA /Hancock "relationship "acceptable?

[Willow904]

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/ ... ays-report" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Curbing pensioner benefits could help the young, says report

Working age people don't have enough to live on because Tory policies have seen the longest stagnation in wages of modern times. Although making rich people poorer, or taking away their perks, might reduce inequality in a technical sense, it doesn't really help someone who doesn't have enough to live on, does it? I just don't understand even the superficial logic of this. If you're worried about inequality it's very easy to hand out universal benefits to benefit the poorest, but still ensure the better off contribute their fair share - tax them. It really is that simple. If you tax high earners properly, if you tax asset wealth properly, you can give things back to certain groups such as universal child benefits or pensioner bus passes without the better off benefiting disproportionately. They will still be net contributors.

[HindleA]

If you work to a narrative of comparative "fairness ","solutions" will always involve reductions.It is the narrative that is wrong IMHO.

[HindleA]

A turning of a day makes you saintly /grasping selfish oldie.I just see people.

[HindleA]

The "easy fit" categories don't help.In reality lives don't conform to age specifics eg.you could have "worked all your life" until not expected to,except treated fundamentally differently because you didn't "conform" to Government diktat.

[HindleA]

I don't like categories,not least because I am uncategorisable.Though of course like many I cross the designated "applications",being a full time working" pensioner "retired member of Unison.

[HindleA]

Ex "unemployed "part employer of a small "business".
Still getting stuff from the ONS re staff/hours I have told them numerous times.

[RogerOThornhill]

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Jay Rayner
@jayrayner1
Replying to
@WestminsterWAG
and
@toadmeister
The two of you have both made a terrible mistake here. You've have confused me knowing you, with holding either of you in any regard whatsoever. And Toby, if I'd done something so terrible that you coming to my aid might help, I'd deserve to be left for dead.

[HindleA]

I love foodbanks what better example of a Christian led Government than creating the increasing need for them,makes my heart warm.Other religions or not are available.

[tinybgoat]

Hasn't she done that already?

That was for the meaningful vote on accepting the agreement, whereas this is for the withdrawal bill, to implement the, umm, agreement, before it's agreed ?? ...
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org. ... ement-bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[citizenJA]

Hasn't she done that already?

'nothing has changed'

[citizenJA]

Good afternoon, everyone.

[AnatolyKasparov]

"Food bank user Emma, 46, a former estate agent, said she was a big fan of Margaret Thatcher. Back then, she said, “if you was prepared to work you could thrive”.

Er,she was 17 when Thatcher left.

You would need a heart of stone not to laugh........

[PorFavor]

Good morfternoon.

Robert Peston
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@Peston

This matters. The International Commission of Labour’s National Policy Forum - which consists of MPs, trade unionists, MEPs, and constituency representatives - has just voted UNANIMOUSLY that Labour’s manifesto for EU elections should pledge to hold a confirmatory referendum...
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3:45 PM - Apr 25, 2019 (Politics Live, Guardian)

[PorFavor]

Oh - and the Huawei thing -

My money's on Gavin Williamson. Although whoever it is, and for whatever the reason, I'd put money on someone further down the hierarchy carrying the blame.

I bet they're spitting nails that Jeremy Corbyn can't be implicated, national security threat that he is.

[PorFavor]

Although there's always Chris Grayling . . .

[AnatolyKasparov]

Good morfternoon.

Robert Peston
✔
@Peston

This matters. The International Commission of Labour’s National Policy Forum - which consists of MPs, trade unionists, MEPs, and constituency representatives - has just voted UNANIMOUSLY that Labour’s manifesto for EU elections should pledge to hold a confirmatory referendum...
441
3:45 PM - Apr 25, 2019 (Politics Live, Guardian)

I think this is highly likely in any event.

[Willow904]

Hasn't she done that already?

That was for the meaningful vote on accepting the agreement, whereas this is for the withdrawal bill, to implement the, umm, agreement, before it's agreed ?? ...
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org. ... ement-bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I saw something about the possibility of a vote on the WA without the Irish backstop. To what end I can't even begin to imagine. To prove the ERG won't even support paying what we owe, respecting citizen rights & and a transition period?

[AnatolyKasparov]

Question Time on tonight, dare we hope for one of Sky's specials?