Friday 26th April 2019

Post by **refitman** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 7:03 am

Morning all.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 9:06 am

Morning all.

My money's on a SpAd being told "It would be terrible if this decision by the PM leaked wouldn't it. I really wouldn't like that to happen. Definitely not"...

Next up "Everyone thinks you should go..."

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 9:26 am

Decent hold for Labour last night in Shrewsbury.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:14 am

https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-anal ... respectabi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:35 am

As ever, when the main defence for somebody's comments is screeching "OUT OF CONTEXT!!" you know that they are on a sticky wicket.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:57 am

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ing-claims" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:58 am

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... nefit-debt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 12:05 pm

https://www.nao.org.uk/report/investiga ... allowance/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 12:45 pm

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 12:46 pm

Constance having her driving lesson

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 1:25 pm

HindleA wrote:Constance having her driving lesson

Has the instructor got catty with her?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 2:43 pm

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publicatio ... 360/access" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 2:45 pm

To put the we spend x State neglect in context.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 2:48 pm

And of course the billions wasted in penalising/policing in own home accounting/siphoned off

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 2:49 pm

Throwing money at ,actually works.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 3:05 pm

And chasing carers due to DWP incompetence,indicative of warped priorities.(we are on the comparative fairness and pernicious consequence thing again)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 3:07 pm

Which doesn't actually "work" in it's own terms,we ALL are harmed,regardless of (fake) categorisations.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 3:14 pm

King's Fund have neglected to mention an increase factor due to social security reform,certainly if current had applied then no option but to apply earlier and for more support to counter financial penalisation.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 3:21 pm

I have no problem with far less income due to circumstances,I have with the State actively penalising and portraying as unfair.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 3:26 pm

Never mind pretension of Christianity ,not being fucking nasty enough to encourage spite against vast cost savers doing nothing wrong,would be a start.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 3:36 pm

"last fight on Earth is not with their illness but with the State"

Laura Pidcock

Never again can't come quickly enough.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 3:42 pm

(though I don't like the battle v illness thing,it makes the point)

Post by **adam** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 5:07 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Decent hold for Labour last night in Shrewsbury.

Don't wish to steal Anatoly's thunder* but as I was campaigning in the seat over the last few weeks - it's a fairly solidly safe labour ward with a very strong local candidate, but in a by election on a rainy day when there aren't local's here next week it's always something of a risk. All of the feedback in the area I worked in was really positive, the lib dems were the usual dirty tricks brigade and nothing much came of it (a labour councillor in another ward has left the party whilst being investigated for anti-semitism claims and they tried to make a big point about this, and this is, I think, the fourth labour councillor in the ward in not many years - one died, one came in as a stopgap and retired, one has moved to a job for West Mids regional labour party - and the lib dems claimed they were the natural successors of the 'original' councillor who had died, which made his widow come out and say 'oh no you're not), and the tory vote collapsed. UKIP didn't stand last time and took 4.5% this time, Labour and the LIb Dems' vote share both went up - Labour by more - and all is well. This time next year there's every chance I'll be a paper candidate in one of the no-hope-for-labour village seats.

* This is possibly one of the most worthless apologies I've ever given. Sorry.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 5:12 pm

Apparently Corbyn should have declined a State Banquet with the Chinese President in 2015 over an issue which didn't begin until 2 years later...and which nobody really heard about until late last year from what I can make out.

Adrian Hilton
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@Adrian_Hilton
1h1 hour ago
More Adrian Hilton Retweeted Heather Stewart
Yet Corbyn honours Hamas, Hezbollah and the IRA, and laid a wreath to those who tortured and murdered Jews in Munich in 1972. And he was perfectly happy to attend the State Banquet for President #XiJinping, who tortures Christians and forces Muslims into concentration camps.

Post by **adam** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 5:13 pm

This evening I am mostly going to a talk by Steve Bell.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 5:26 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.nao.org.uk/report/investiga ... allowance/

The Department is also currently unable to register 254,000 carers (30%) due to software issues but is trying to resolve these.

Last line from the report press release webpage
Waiting for government to sort out their problems could take a while

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 5:34 pm

adam wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Decent hold for Labour last night in Shrewsbury.
Don't wish to steal Anatoly's thunder* but as I was campaigning in the seat over the last few weeks - it's a fairly solidly safe labour ward with a very strong local candidate, but in a by election on a rainy day when there aren't local's here next week it's always something of a risk. All of the feedback in the area I worked in was really positive, the lib dems were the usual dirty tricks brigade and nothing much came of it (a labour councillor in another ward has left the party whilst being investigated for anti-semitism claims and they tried to make a big point about this, and this is, I think, the fourth labour councillor in the ward in not many years - one died, one came in as a stopgap and retired, one has moved to a job for West Mids regional labour party - and the lib dems claimed they were the natural successors of the 'original' councillor who had died, which made his widow come out and say 'oh no you're not), and the tory vote collapsed. UKIP didn't stand last time and took 4.5% this time, Labour and the LIb Dems' vote share both went up - Labour by more - and all is well. This time next year there's every chance I'll be a paper candidate in one of the no-hope-for-labour village seats.

* This is possibly one of the most worthless apologies I've ever given. Sorry.

Well done Adam!

I think even AK would struggle for that level of insight

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 5:37 pm

I will do my best later.......

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 7:34 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:I will do my best later.......

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 7:50 pm

OK then - one local council byelection yesterday:

Shropshire - Labour hold with approaching half the vote in a ward which has always voted Labour since the present unitary council was set up in 2009 when the Tories were competitive (in, of course, a poor Tory year) Labour made it safe in 2013 before a previous 2015 byelection created a LibDem presence, and they came a good second in the most recent 2017 elections. They went up to over 30% this time, but Labour increased by slightly more and both appeared to gain at the expense of the Tories whose 12% was more than halved on two years ago. Greens almost unchanged, just ahead of UKIP who polled just under 5% in what was (perhaps surprisingly) their first outing here.

That's positively it before next week's big day - but there are a couple of contests as early as 9 May, no rest for the wicked

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 8:07 pm

Being a carer is immeasurably harder than working,it pales into insignificance compared to dealing with long term sickness/disability.It is a fucked up Society that pursues the former for the equivalent of a night out a week at most.If you must compare ,make the correct one(s)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 8:38 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -elections" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Labour lays out plans for social care reform ahead of local elections
Party pledges home help for 160,000 more elderly people as well as £350m for training

(No wall left after head banging)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 8:41 pm

To be fair,more the (mis)represention.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 10:30 pm

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 10:35 pm

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:03 pm

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ou ... re_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:30 pm

I realise as to why the "elderly" misrepresentation but working within the false narrative only reinforces ignorance,sufficiently pathetic,needy,patronisation,falseness re purpose ,encompassment in.terms of what and whom and consequent various levels of continuing pernicious consequences.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:36 pm

If people don't like contributing/less likely to a miniscule amount towards continued employment for example because it doesn't satisfy their need to feel good,tough shit,educate them.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:42 pm

The we don't mind as long as "less than us" must be smashed.Of course in a nanosecond anybody can be "one of them"

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:45 pm

Society isn't accidently structured,equalising the fucker,remove barriers and we all gain.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:51 pm

Those who don't recognise they didn't "do it on their own"are the real failures.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:55 pm

Received notice of postal vote for Euros.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:58 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... itys-decay" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Romans revolt as tourists turn their noses up at city’s decay
Rubbish, potholes and metro closures contribute to anger among visitors and citizens alike

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Apr, 2019 11:59 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... eakthrough" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anti-bullfighting party set for Spanish election breakthrough
As the right enlists bullfighters as candidates, animal welfare champions are polling well

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 27 Apr, 2019 12:01 am

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 27 Apr, 2019 12:02 am

Path,I bet none of them thinks they are the Pope,like my Guy.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 27 Apr, 2019 12:05 am

Might as well

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 27 Apr, 2019 12:05 am

Ensure

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 27 Apr, 2019 12:06 am

That there is a

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 27 Apr, 2019 12:06 am