FlyTheNest

Labour will have the most seats on Stoke-on-Trent City Council - but no party will have overall control.
All the results are now in and the final result is: 16 seats for Labour, 15 for the Conservatives, 12 for the City Independents and one non-alligned independent.

The Tories only had seven seats before yesterday's local election.
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HindleA wrote:In case you missed it

Stoke-on-Trent
PARTY COUNCILLORS +/-
Labour 16 -5
Conservative 15 +8
UKIP 0 -2
Independent 13 -1

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning.

Mainly rolling my eyes at misinterpretations, wilful or otherwise, of the council results.

Given some counts haven't started yet it all seems rather hasty!

Bonnylad wrote:

citizenJA wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning.

Mainly rolling my eyes at misinterpretations, wilful or otherwise, of the council results.

Given some counts haven't started yet it all seems rather hasty!

Wilful hastiness steamrolls over thoughtful consideration

HindleA wrote:There is no misinterpretation on a bloody awful night

HindleA wrote:There is no misinterpretation on a bloody awful night

HindleA wrote:CJA works both ways,the fact is replicated here the Tories are gaining

HindleA wrote:If losing means you became PM with the main opposition party having a vanishingly small prospect of being in power anytime soon,Labour could do with losing.You can scream MSM etc as much as you want,fact is Labour aren't cutting it.

adam wrote:Just down the road (from Stoke, and from here)

Telford and Wrekin New council

Labour 36 (+8)
Conservatives 13 (-7)
Lid Dem 13 (-)
Ind 1 (-)
UKIP 0 (-1)

Bravery is needed. If you combine kindness and effectiveness with a bit of grit most people will respect you even when they don't always agree.

adam wrote:I know there are always all sorts of things going on

gilsey wrote:From the G.

Sir John Curtice, the BBC’s lead election analyst, told the Today programme that his analysis suggested the Lib Dem surge was not being driven by support for a second referendum. He explained:

"The Liberal Democrats used to be the traditional party of protest. And then they went into coalition with the Conservatives and they rather lost that mantle.

It looks as though they are beginning to recover that mantle, particularly in areas where until recently they had quite a lot of strength.

But when you actually look, is there any evidence that the Liberal Democrats are doing better in remain areas than in leave areas? The truth is that the evidence seems to be lacking.

So it seems easier to interpret this as evidence of Liberal Democrats recovering from the coalition, being the party of protest, and that’s the basis of their success, rather than necessarily a rush of enthusiasm for the idea of a second EU referendum."

adam wrote:I'd add that Telford and Wrekin voted leave 63/37, and I know there are always all sorts of things going on, and all sorts of local issues, but here is a piece of evidence that suggests that, at the most, people are taking Labour's position on the future as they choose to. If Sunderland's labour party are saying the problem is labour contemplating a second referendum how does that work in Telford? That Telford's leave voters are happy that the policy isn't clear? That seems unlikely - I think Jess Phillips quote is a pretty good one

Bravery is needed. If you combine kindness and effectiveness with a bit of grit most people will respect you even when they don't always agree.

What this election might mean - might, early days - is that there are labour voters out there who are prepared to look again at the lib dems as an alternative in the way that they did before 2010.

Willow904 wrote:---
In the South West it's different. The Libdems take votes from the Tories round here, not Labour. Their resurgence could prove a big problem for the Tories if it's maintained into a general election. They only managed a majority in 2015 by cannibalizing their Coalition partners. With the Libdems bouncing back and Labour holding steady, the Tories are in trouble no matter how lacklustre Labour might appear in the classic Labour/Tory marginals.

The Conservatives are now close to having achieved a net loss of 600 seats. Labour are on a net loss of 75.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 582f892746" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA wrote:That's good news.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Lab lose Middlesbrough

AnatolyKasparov wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Lab lose Middlesbrough

Not a massive shock given the mayoral result there.