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 Post subject: Monday 20th May 2019
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Labour is right: Britain’s private utility model is broken

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But this morning the Daily Telegraph reports that it has seen a summary of the bill sent to cabinet ministers last week and that it confirms that all the supposedly new concessions are ones that have been offered already.


From the daily politics in the graun. Nothing new, just 'you need to pass this agreement, it's the only agreement there is or will be'. Which is true, but which isn't the point.

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Change UK might not exist by the time of the next general election, interim leader Heidi Allen says - and hints at a merger with Lib Dems: “The format might be slightly different. I see a modern world of coalition” #r4today

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The predicted results & chart are interesting (tried to attach chart but think it will appear to large), it has Labour losing seats but not too Brexit party.
So if correct, Labours posn. on Brexit might be losing remain voters to 'remain' parties but isn't strengthening the far right, could do worse?


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Looking around at some old stuff, this was posted on twitter buy Guy Verhofstadt just under two years ago. Good to see the government have been getting on with dealing with things so well.
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https://sluggerotoole.com/2019/05/20/the-brexit-party-look-set-to-dominate-at-the-european-elections-in-great-britain-as-the-conservatives-collapse/
The predicted results & chart are interesting (tried to attach chart but think it will appear to large), it has Labour losing seats but not too Brexit party.
So if correct, Labours posn. on Brexit might be losing remain voters to 'remain' parties but isn't strengthening the far right, could do worse?


Well this 'people' has sent in my postal vote. Green - ( Go Magid ! )

'course, that'll mean I just want them to get on with it and deliver Brexit...

NO, IT BLOODY WELL DOESN'T :fire: :wall:


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Change UK might not exist by the time of the next general election, interim leader Heidi Allen says - and hints at a merger with Lib Dems: “The format might be slightly different. I see a modern world of coalition” #r4today

What a surprise.


Increasingly the bottom line seems to be that they launched before they were ready.

And one person in particular seems to be responsible for that. Clue - they had a car crash interview on the telly yesterday.


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Increasingly the bottom line seems to be that they launched before they were ready.

Why did we need another 'centrist' party that supported austerity anyway, LDs have performed that function adequately for nearly a decade.

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Well this 'people' has sent in my postal vote. Green - ( Go Magid ! )


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Increasingly the bottom line seems to be that they launched before they were ready.

Why did we need another 'centrist' party that supported austerity anyway, LDs have performed that function adequately for nearly a decade.


Because a few egos (one in particular, already referred to) desired it, and they were egged on by our clueless and cynical media?


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Another revolting misuse of bereavement by Rudd on twitter to extol the virtues of UC,truly appalling.


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From the people that apply targeted psychological pressure to the bereaved to pay back monies they don't have to.


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That only exempted from benefit cap under pressure ,that reduced payments for bereaved parents with children etc


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Manipulation,or attempts of,at different levels of course.


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Nigel Farage, the Brexit party leader, has been hit by a milkshake while campaigning in Newcastle.

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Nigel Farage, the Brexit party leader, has been hit by a milkshake while campaigning in Newcastle.


I gather he's busy blaming someone else (ie his staff\security). No sign of his blokey trademark chuckle.


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Nigel Farage, the Brexit party leader, has been hit by a milkshake while campaigning in Newcastle.


Po faced comparisons with Jo Cox being made by some, no it isn't a "slippery slope" you fools.

Even being hit by an egg can hurt quite a bit, the thing about a milkshake is that it doesn't - but *does* make the recipient look stupid.

(whatever happened to custard pies btw?)


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Afternoon all. Have had the electricians in doing some work so have had the computer off...and read instead. Interesting - maybe I ought to switch the computer off more often...

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
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Nigel Farage, the Brexit party leader, has been hit by a milkshake while campaigning in Newcastle.


Po faced comparisons with Jo Cox being made by some, no it isn't a "slippery slope" you fools.

Even being hit by an egg can hurt quite a bit, the thing about a milkshake is that it doesn't - but *does* make the recipient look stupid.

(whatever happened to custard pies btw?)


'We're only making flans for Nigel'.

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PorFavor wrote:
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Nigel Farage, the Brexit party leader, has been hit by a milkshake while campaigning in Newcastle.

I gather he's busy blaming someone else (ie his staff\security). No sign of his blokey trademark chuckle.
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I can't find any sympathy for him and his dire reaction to it is unpleasant.


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Sadly some remainers have become radicalised, to the extent that normal campaigning is becoming impossible.

For a civilised democracy to work you need the losers consent, politicians not accepting the referendum result have led us to this.



Even though Farage has used the term [losers' consent], it is not apparent that he understands the concept. (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)


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Quite.

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Milkshake on Farage: "this terrorism is the death of democracy!"

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This report is Human Rights Watch’s first project explicitly focused on obstacles to ensuring the right to food, as part of the right to an adequate standard of living, in the context of a welfare system in a rich democracy with a relatively well functioning rule of law system. Previous work by the organization on the right to food has focused on countries facing famine, or acute food shortages, usually linked to the state’s decision to withhold food from or obstruct access to food for some groups.

Shaming.

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Policies that create indebtedness and applied overwhelmingly inappropriately against basic logic with impossible "solutions" is the best way to entrap people.


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Tory party suspends Michael Heseltine for backing Lib Dems

Now if only Labour would do the same to Hodge.

Although that would make her a martyr.


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"While the number of disabled workers rose by 178,000 last year, the total number of disabled people rose by 197,000. This indicates that the rise in the disabled workforce was driven primarily by people already in work who were being reclassified as disabled, not by a marked decrease in the number of disabled people out of work."


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Tory party suspends Michael Heseltine for backing Lib Dems

Now if only Labour would do the same to Hodge.

Although that would make her a martyr.


Her comments are apparently being "looked into".


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Thousands of teenagers in care are being "dumped" in unregulated homes and "abandoned to organised crime gangs", the BBC has been told.

The number of looked-after children aged 16 and over living in unregistered accommodation in England has increased 70% in a decade, Newsnight has found.


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Zero surprise on Jane Kennedy,she has a long and some would say inglorious history on such mattets,some would say I couldn't comment.Kilfoyle stated there wasn't much comparison.


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The biggest threat I found was not falling asleep during meetings.Maybe I am immune/inured against varying degrees and methods of pressure to conform,telling me to fuck off/wrong party etc only further convinces me to stay.


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"awkward sod" was a common description by better half.


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Re above note how categorisations can be manipulated ,yet another reason why I don't like them.Putting people into easy fit boxes makes such manipulations ever more easy.


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