Tuesday 21st May 2019

Post by **refitman** » Tue 21 May, 2019 7:03 am

Morning all.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 8:59 am

Good morfternoon.

This article probably comes pretty close to how I feel. Which is odd, because I wouldn't describe myself as one of life's optimists.

Why remainers should keep the faith and vote Labour on Thursday
Zoe Williams (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... byn-brexit

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 9:16 am

https://www.cqc.org.uk/publications/the ... ion-people" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Review of restraint, prolonged seclusion and segregation for people with a mental health problem, a learning disability and or autism

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 9:18 am

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... e-reviewed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 9:56 am

British Steel on brink of administration, putting 5,000 jobs at risk

UK’s second largest steel producer needs emergency loan of £30m from government

There are rather more than 5,000 jobs at risk (knock-on effects) as the article goes on to say.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... nment-loan

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 9:56 am

https://labour.org.uk/press/cqc-report- ... es-keeley/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 10:00 am

My above post edited to add the "knock-on effects" bit.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 10:04 am

Never usually purchase finishing videos/photos of shuffling/staggering efforts but have video on this occasion as particularly funny.The contrast between in my imagination of supreme sprint finish and waddling reality an ever useful check on necessary humility.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 21 May, 2019 11:21 am

As said on last night's thread, RIP Niki Lauda. Still can't quite believe how he survived that crash.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 12:01 pm

Boris Johnson says, "Today, I'll mostly be a One Nation Conservative."

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 21 May, 2019 12:38 pm

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

This article probably comes pretty close to how I feel. Which is odd, because I wouldn't describe myself as one of life's optimists.

Why remainers should keep the faith and vote Labour on Thursday
Zoe Williams (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... byn-brexit

Labour is moving in the direction Williams (and you) would like to see. It is a slow process because that is what the party is generally like.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 1:04 pm

Don't I know it!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 1:46 pm

At the risk of grumpy old git mode,followed motor racing then closely,can't get in the least bit excited nowadays.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 21 May, 2019 1:54 pm

I fully get what you mean (and of course such sentiments can be applied to other sports than F1)

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 2:16 pm

I've just received a UKIP leaflet (apparently I voted to leave the EU, and am now very cross) - individually addressed, but delivered along with a take-away flyer (but not folded into it).

Edited - typo

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 21 May, 2019 2:40 pm

May is going to........wait for it.......make a statement in the HoC about her NEW (actually, not very new) Brexit deal!!

Can you control your excitement?

Post by **adam** » Tue 21 May, 2019 2:51 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:May is going to........wait for it.......make a statement in the HoC about her NEW (actually, not very new) Brexit deal!!

Can you control your excitement?

Except, of course, it appears that she's not, she's going to make a speech somewhere other than the House of Commons. And she's apparently going to resurrect the Brady amendment and let the House vote on ignoring what the actual Withdrawal Agreement says about the Backstop.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 2:54 pm

Tarquin not that impressed with being jetwashed it has to be said.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 3:51 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:---
It is a slow process because that is what the party is generally like.

(cJA edit)

This is a characteristic of any organisation cooperatively structured. Add changing circumstances prior possible action. It can be frustrating.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 3:51 pm

Good afternoon, everyone.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 4:00 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:May is going to........wait for it.......make a statement in the HoC about her NEW (actually, not very new) Brexit deal!!

Can you control your excitement?

May's single strategy is draining the life out of whatever she's near.
We can defeat her by engaging in joyful, rhythmic dancing.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 4:24 pm

I've been asleep so I missed the kick-off. Where is Theresa May speaking from - and why does she keep glancing up to the heavens? Is there someone up in the gods who she particularly wants to commune with? Oh - and what is she wittering on about (well, "Brexit" I know, but . . )? Any answers will be much appreciated.

And from what little I've heard so far - I don't trust her. Again.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 4:51 pm

The BBC is suggesting that Theresa May's latest offering might appeal to Labour - on account of the EU election. I don't see, at this stage (or at any stage, from my point of view, but that's by-the-by) why it should.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 21 May, 2019 4:58 pm

BBC has been desperate to talk up Labour MPs voting for May's deal throughout, I suppose you will have to ask them why.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 5:10 pm

adam wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:May is going to........wait for it.......make a statement in the HoC about her NEW (actually, not very new) Brexit deal!!

Can you control your excitement?
Except, of course, it appears that she's not, she's going to make a speech somewhere other than the House of Commons. And she's apparently going to resurrect the Brady amendment and let the House vote on ignoring what the actual Withdrawal Agreement says about the Backstop.

The location seems to be shrouded in secrecy, unless I keep missing the revelation. Do you know where it was, please?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 6:00 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... -live-news" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 6:07 pm

Thumbs down from Labour, then.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 6:22 pm

PorFavor wrote:Thumbs down from Labour, then.

I misread this and thought you were doing a DH imitation
'Why Tory failure is bad news for Labour'

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 6:27 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:BBC has been desperate to talk up Labour MPs voting for May's deal throughout, I suppose you will have to ask them why.

I've noticed this phenomenon too.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 21 May, 2019 7:16 pm

PorFavor wrote:Thumbs down from Labour, then.

And, again, the only people remotely "surprised" at this are the galaxy brains in the lobby.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 7:51 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... dalek-shed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Tue 21 May, 2019 8:00 pm

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Tue 21 May, 2019 8:01 pm

I thought if might be modern footballers with wives and boyfriends

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 9:23 pm

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 9:37 pm

May’s final effort to win backing falls flat as MPs reject ‘new' Brexit deal

Politicians from across the House shoot down repackaged offer in major blow to PM (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rexit-deal

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 9:42 pm

"Show your workings". So she did - and lost marks.

Post by **adam** » Tue 21 May, 2019 10:12 pm

PorFavor wrote:
adam wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:May is going to........wait for it.......make a statement in the HoC about her NEW (actually, not very new) Brexit deal!!

Can you control your excitement?
Except, of course, it appears that she's not, she's going to make a speech somewhere other than the House of Commons. And she's apparently going to resurrect the Brady amendment and let the House vote on ignoring what the actual Withdrawal Agreement says about the Backstop.

The location seems to be shrouded in secrecy, unless I keep missing the revelation. Do you know where it was, please?

I think it was at an accountancy firm - *goes off and checks* - it was at Price Waterhouse Cooper's (or PWC as they now seem to be known) London HQ.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 10:14 pm

@adam

Thank you!

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 10:16 pm

Squirrels. All Refitman's fault, apparently.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 21 May, 2019 10:19 pm

Night night.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 21 May, 2019 11:38 pm

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 22 May, 2019 12:08 am

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 22 May, 2019 12:10 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00059qb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 22 May, 2019 12:17 am

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... =immediate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Something missing,what could it possibly be?
Clue,the real experts.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 22 May, 2019 12:18 am

Allowed to come forward

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 22 May, 2019 12:24 am

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The Learning Disabilities Mortality Review – Annual Report 2018

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 22 May, 2019 12:28 am

"jetwash cramp",and I'm only half done.

Tarquin laughing his socks off ...hang on they are mine

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 22 May, 2019 12:34 am

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ta-ana-zoo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 22 May, 2019 12:39 am

Got election stuff from other parties,too late.Part of Labour's demise here is organisational as it was the same in the GE.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 22 May, 2019 12:42 am

Maybe if they stopped sending 421 e-mails for cash