Bank Holiday 25th, 26th & 27th May 2019.
Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 7:58 am
Morning all.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 10:25 am
Ratty rowers strangely would not serve in a Boris Johnson government (4,7).
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 10:50 am
That's an "interesting" declaration from him - there will almost certainly be others following his lead.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 11:09 am
Folk pointing out that he specifically said he would not serve as Foreign Secretary, which suggests that he was specifically offered it by Johnson.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 11:11 am
Stewart's been saying all sorts of sensible things, which pretty much rules him out as a potential Tory leader I would have thought. Can the party manage to hang together under the kind of full-on Eurosceptic likely to be chosen by the Tory membership? Lots of people have been writing off Change UK, but as a lifeboat for pro-EU Tories it may actually be a goer.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 11:21 am
John McDonnell says Labour will immediately call a No Confidence vote in the new PM.
Which links to Willow's analysis I think.
Which links to Willow's analysis I think.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 11:46 am
Could be such a write off they might be better off starting something from scratch.Willow904 wrote:Stewart's been saying all sorts of sensible things, which pretty much rules him out as a potential Tory leader I would have thought. Can the party manage to hang together under the kind of full-on Eurosceptic likely to be chosen by the Tory membership? Lots of people have been writing off Change UK, but as a lifeboat for pro-EU Tories it may actually be a goer.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 12:02 pm
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Could be such a write off they might be better off starting something from scratch.Willow904 wrote:Stewart's been saying all sorts of sensible things, which pretty much rules him out as a potential Tory leader I would have thought. Can the party manage to hang together under the kind of full-on Eurosceptic likely to be chosen by the Tory membership? Lots of people have been writing off Change UK, but as a lifeboat for pro-EU Tories it may actually be a goer.
If they are going to have a renaissance every time there's a change in political circumstances, then at least they could justifiably keep the name, even if they keep nothing else!
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 12:02 pm
Good morfternoon.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 12:05 pm
I've just switched on the news - guess what I was confronted with.
Yuk - to coin a phrase.
Yuk - to coin a phrase.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 12:21 pm
Yeah, a bit premature, I think - if someone like Stewart did end up leader the wider public may be willing to give them a chance and Labour may be going against the national mood - but if, as seems likely, we end up with Johnson then we already know he's incompetent and so a no confidence vote is the only reasonable response.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:John McDonnell says Labour will immediately call a No Confidence vote in the new PM.
Which links to Willow's analysis I think.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 12:28 pm
The likelihood of the Tory party in its present state picking someone like Stewart as leader is barely even minimal.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 2:20 pm
@Paul - I think you'll like 22 down in the Graun prize crossword.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 3:04 pm
Would I have to buy the Groan?refitman wrote:@Paul - I think you'll like 22 down in the Graun prize crossword.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 3:05 pm
Yes I wondered about that. It could be an attempt to influence the Tory MPs and members to select a moderate candidate I suppose.Willow904 wrote:Yeah, a bit premature, I think - if someone like Stewart did end up leader the wider public may be willing to give them a chance and Labour may be going against the national mood - but if, as seems likely, we end up with Johnson then we already know he's incompetent and so a no confidence vote is the only reasonable response.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:John McDonnell says Labour will immediately call a No Confidence vote in the new PM.
Which links to Willow's analysis I think.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 3:15 pm
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22 Chaos in spring over the border (6)
22 Chaos in spring over the border (6)
Re: Bank Holiday 25th, 26th & 27th May 2019.
Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 3:15 pm
I'm sure they will listen to McDonnell 
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 3:18 pm
Increasingly rarely Guardian/Observer (prize )crosswords are free (.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 4:21 pm
It's behind the paywall but I love the headline for Simon Heffer's review of JRM's book The Victorians.
The best bit about this is that the only positive review I've seen of it was from Andrew Roberts:
"A full-throated, clear-sighted, well-researched and extremely well written exposition of the Victorians and their values. Rees-Mogg’s choice of a dozen Victorian luminaries allows him to defend an era too often ignored or written off in British history, and to compare it to our modern day in a way that readers will find gripping but also chastening" (Andrew Roberts, bestselling author of ‘Churchill: Walking with Destiny’)
The best bit about this is that the only positive review I've seen of it was from Andrew Roberts:
"A full-throated, clear-sighted, well-researched and extremely well written exposition of the Victorians and their values. Rees-Mogg’s choice of a dozen Victorian luminaries allows him to defend an era too often ignored or written off in British history, and to compare it to our modern day in a way that readers will find gripping but also chastening" (Andrew Roberts, bestselling author of ‘Churchill: Walking with Destiny’)
Re: Bank Holiday 25th, 26th & 27th May 2019.
Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 6:52 pm
I've avoided the news all day.PorFavor wrote:I've just switched on the news - guess what I was confronted with.
Yuk - to coin a phrase.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 6:52 pm
Good evening, everyone.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 8:21 pm
Avoiding the news doesn't stop it not happening.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 9:26 pm
Knowing what's happening powerless to change its course sometimes becomes too burdensomeHindleA wrote:Avoiding the news doesn't stop it not happening.
Feeling powerless and burdened will pass and strengths found
I'll feel curious about news again
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 9:27 pm
I love you all very much
I'm going to read
love,
cJA
I'm going to read
love,
cJA
Re: Bank Holiday 25th, 26th & 27th May 2019.
Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 9:42 pm
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/book ... 8?mode=amp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;RogerOThornhill wrote:It's behind the paywall but I love the headline for Simon Heffer's review of JRM's book The Victorians.
The best bit about this is that the only positive review I've seen of it was from Andrew Roberts:
"A full-throated, clear-sighted, well-researched and extremely well written exposition of the Victorians and their values. Rees-Mogg’s choice of a dozen Victorian luminaries allows him to defend an era too often ignored or written off in British history, and to compare it to our modern day in a way that readers will find gripping but also chastening" (Andrew Roberts, bestselling author of ‘Churchill: Walking with Destiny’)
"Rees-Mogg’s terrible reviews are a cause for celebration"
This is good stuff; when writing a real stinker of a review there must be no holding back. Once the defamation laws are not breached, every insult and rhetorical flourish should be deployed. At least, that’s usually the case. In this particular instance, though, we may have found one exception
“Before I started the prospect of Rees-Mogg in Downing Street struck me as a ridiculous idea,” Sandbrook wrote in his Sunday Times review. “But if this is what it takes to stop him writing another book, then I think we should seriously consider paying the price.”
Now that’s a review that’s gone too far.
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Posted: Sat 25 May, 2019 10:37 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ies-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
After the unavoidable opening, this is complete common sense from David Gauke on the Brexit challenge.
Except he should really acknowledge that he agrees with Jeremy Corbyn!
After the unavoidable opening, this is complete common sense from David Gauke on the Brexit challenge.
Except he should really acknowledge that he agrees with Jeremy Corbyn!
Re: Bank Holiday 25th, 26th & 27th May 2019.
Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 10:27 am
Confronting the news doesn't stop it happeningHindleA wrote:Avoiding the news doesn't stop it not happening.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 10:28 am
Good morning, everyone.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 10:31 am
The western world’s largest democratic exercise is nearing its finale as tens of millions of EU citizens in 21 countries go to the polls on Sunday, the last of four days of voting in European parliament elections that will shape the bloc’s future.
Final votes cast as EU awaits parliamentary election results
Re: Bank Holiday 25th, 26th & 27th May 2019.
Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 10:36 am
@HindleA
I may well have misunderstood your post I've responded to twice
I'm often the last understanding sly wit
I may well have misunderstood your post I've responded to twice
I'm often the last understanding sly wit
Re: Bank Holiday 25th, 26th & 27th May 2019.
Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 10:37 am
Politics Live at the G for the tory leadership race.
All the reporters and commentators love this, I'm conjecturing that they're grateful for a story they can waffle on about indefinitely, as opposed to Brexit which has necessitated some homework.
Hardly any of them did enough homework but now they don't need to do any at all, it's the air they breathe.
All the reporters and commentators love this, I'm conjecturing that they're grateful for a story they can waffle on about indefinitely, as opposed to Brexit which has necessitated some homework.
Hardly any of them did enough homework but now they don't need to do any at all, it's the air they breathe.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 10:48 am
(cJA bold)gilsey wrote:Politics Live at the G for the tory leadership race.
All the reporters and commentators love this, I'm conjecturing that they're grateful for a story they can waffle on about indefinitely, as opposed to Brexit which has necessitated some homework.
Hardly any of them did enough homework but now they don't need to do any at all, it's the air they breathe.
Agreed. It's part of the reason why I've recently veered away from news. What's the point?
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 10:55 am
Sensible dialogue has ceased. The alt-right vomit out high-speed soundbites, before lumbering old-school wildebeest journalists can interrupt them with facts, and their followers swiftly repurpose these into potent online propaganda. Traditional resistance is futile. We have entered the Age of the Weaponised Milkshake. But is milkshake a legitimate form of protest?
Stewart Lee
Are milkshakes the new politics of resistance?
Re: Bank Holiday 25th, 26th & 27th May 2019.
Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 11:03 am
Stewart Lee wrote:The milkshake is flung from a realm of misrule recognisable to all cultures.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 11:03 am
Courtiers and gossip columnists, that accounts for over 90% of them.gilsey wrote:Politics Live at the G for the tory leadership race.
All the reporters and commentators love this, I'm conjecturing that they're grateful for a story they can waffle on about indefinitely, as opposed to Brexit which has necessitated some homework.
Hardly any of them did enough homework but now they don't need to do any at all, it's the air they breathe.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 11:16 am
Fascinating interview with Hammond.
Felt like a landmark to me.
Felt like a landmark to me.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 11:18 am
It appears that a certain somebody is 70 today, I hope that tonight's results don't spoil the occasion too much.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 11:36 am
Hammond sounded like he would consider resigning the whip under a no deal leader.
Which is pretty strong stuff.
Which is pretty strong stuff.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 11:42 am
Also mentioned reaching out across Parliament.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 11:47 am
If enough Tory MPs listen to Hammond there is a way out here.
Keep Johnson, Leadsom, McVey, Raab off the choice to members. Whoever is then selected knows exactly what to change to get the WAB through with Labour support.
Keep Johnson, Leadsom, McVey, Raab off the choice to members. Whoever is then selected knows exactly what to change to get the WAB through with Labour support.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 12:06 pm
Demob happy.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Fascinating interview with Hammond.
Felt like a landmark to me.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 12:21 pm
Possibly.gilsey wrote:Demob happy.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Fascinating interview with Hammond.
Felt like a landmark to me.
Certainly he enjoyed speaking his mind. But I got the impression he feels he has some important work to do here. Perhaps he enjoys being Chancellor?
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 12:42 pm
The news is a set of individual actions or inactions,it isn't distinct or discrete.It can fundamentally change at an individual or general level,it isn't set in stone.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 12:47 pm
eg.No one at all has to accept the fifteen minute soggy wet flannel at all and unnecessary for years.Political machination,ignorance,lack of action head in sand.party.politicking etc.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 1:19 pm
As ever far too many on the left at every level attend to bemoaning ,ignoring what.is in their power to do now.There.has always been an element that glorifies in the harm in pursuance of an agenda.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 1:26 pm
No deal Brexit and giant tax cuts for the better off - Dominic Raab really knows how to woo Tory Party members.
Utterly depressing.
Utterly depressing.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 1:33 pm
Tempting fate here I know - but he isn't going to win.Willow904 wrote:No deal Brexit and giant tax cuts for the better off - Dominic Raab really knows how to woo Tory Party members.
Utterly depressing.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 1:43 pm
Good God, no. I thought his job was to make Gove look charismatic by comparison. He was certainly giving it his best shot on Marr this morning.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Tempting fate here I know - but he isn't going to win.Willow904 wrote:No deal Brexit and giant tax cuts for the better off - Dominic Raab really knows how to woo Tory Party members.
Utterly depressing.
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Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 1:49 pm
@HindleA
I think, though it's difficult to be certain
, that I agree with you on the "news".
It never gets on the news that the struggling parent down the street managed to scrape a decent meal together for the kids despite their Universal Credit being late.
I think, though it's difficult to be certain
, that I agree with you on the "news".It never gets on the news that the struggling parent down the street managed to scrape a decent meal together for the kids despite their Universal Credit being late.
Re: Bank Holiday 25th, 26th & 27th May 2019.
Posted: Sun 26 May, 2019 1:51 pm
The croissants for breakfast (oh or cornflakes) was telling.Willow904 wrote:Good God, no. I thought his job was to make Gove look charismatic by comparison. He was certainly giving it his best shot on Marr this morning.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Tempting fate here I know - but he isn't going to win.Willow904 wrote:No deal Brexit and giant tax cuts for the better off - Dominic Raab really knows how to woo Tory Party members.
Utterly depressing.
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