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Tuesday 4th June 2019

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Morning all.
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Any particular article in mind?
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I someone has invited Trump to an Eid Mubarak feast :twisted:
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Good Twitter thread from Angela Rayner on the benefits of Sure Start

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Fox Hunt
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10:42
Today’s UK construction PMI report is surprisingly weak, says Max Jones, relationship director in Lloyds Bank Commercial Banking’s infrastructure and construction team.
'surprisingly'

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It’s only Tuesday morning, and we’ve already had three piece of weak UK economic data, namely:

UK construction shrank in May, at the fastest pace in a year (see earlier post)
UK manufacturing also contracted last month, at the fastest rate in almost three years (see yesterday’s news story)
UK retail sales fell by 2.7% in May, the worst fall since the British Retail Consortium started counting (see this morning’s news story)
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Anyone else see Hammond on Newsnight? Quite apart from his astonishing complacency on poverty and equally deluded assessment of economic success under the tories since 2010, he said plainly that leaving the EU on 31 October with or without a deal was impossible.
In itself an admission of tory incompetence.
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gilsey wrote:
10:42
Today’s UK construction PMI report is surprisingly weak, says Max Jones, relationship director in Lloyds Bank Commercial Banking’s infrastructure and construction team.
'surprisingly'

https://www.theguardian.com/business/li ... iness-live" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It’s only Tuesday morning, and we’ve already had three piece of weak UK economic data, namely:

UK construction shrank in May, at the fastest pace in a year (see earlier post)
UK manufacturing also contracted last month, at the fastest rate in almost three years (see yesterday’s news story)
UK retail sales fell by 2.7% in May, the worst fall since the British Retail Consortium started counting (see this morning’s news story)
If the increase in flyers coming through the letterbox touting for work (need your gutters cleaned?) is anything to go by, we're definitely heading for a slowdown if not an actual downturn.
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On McCain, from yesterday. I know we shouldn't be especially pleased just because people are capable of behaving with basic human decency but it's such a marked contrast to what has come after him that it's worth remembering...
Fearing the raw and at times angry emotions of his supporters may damage his campaign, John McCain on Friday urged them to tone down their increasingly personal denunciations of Barack Obama. Each time he tried to cool the crowd, he was rewarded with a round of boos.

"I have to tell you. Sen. Obama is a decent person and a person you don’t have to be scared of as president of the United States," McCain told a supporter at a town hall meeting in Minnesota who said he was “scared” of the prospect of an Obama presidency and of who the Democrat would appoint to the Supreme Court.

“Come on, John!” one audience member yelled out as the Republican crowd expressed dismay at their nominee. Others yelled "liar," and "terrorist." One woman, in the course of a question to McCain said of Obama: "He's an Arab."

McCain, who had shared his wireless microphone with her, yanked it out of her hand. "No, ma'am," the Arizona senator assured. "He's a decent family man and citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign's all about. He's not [an Arab]."
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Apparently, James Cleverly has hoiked his hat out of the ring.
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PorFavor wrote:Apparently, James Cleverly has hoiked his hat out of the ring.
Bright lad.
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Robert Peston - is he on the waccy baccy?
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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PorFavor wrote:
Any particular article in mind?
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Rumours that some ChUK MPs are set to join the LibDems "within days".
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Tony Benn: Will and Testament (2014)
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Rumours that some ChUK MPs are set to join the LibDems "within days".
Including Chuka and Delhi Alien, according to the Guardian (5,5), though I can't open the article for some reason.
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Got it now

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@PF

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@CJA

"Clashes" with Derby
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And lo and behold a YouGov poll shows that our much mythologised "traditional working class voters" don't like Trump any more than other people do.

That's dozens of HOT TAKES out of the window (well it isn't, but it should be)
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HindleA wrote:@CJA

"Clashes" with Derby
I'm disappointed
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:And lo and behold a YouGov poll shows that our much mythologised "traditional working class voters" don't like Trump any more than other people do.

That's dozens of HOT TAKES out of the window (well it isn't, but it should be)
I don't suppose Peston will admit error
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Tories poised to change rules for leadership election to reduce crowded field
I guess May hasn't officially stepped down yet, so technically such a change could be viewed as before rather than after the fact but too late to prevent the spectacle of no-names falling over themselves to mark their card.
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Change UK have officially split - five MPs staying loyal, five forming a new "Independent Group" and the MP for Streatham forming his own party - "The Alternative".

Genuinely beyond parody.
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Farage arrives at US ambassador's residence for meeting with Trump

Nigel Farage has arrived at the US ambassador’s residence for a meeting with Donald Trump, Reuters is reporting. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Change UK have officially split - five MPs staying loyal, five forming a new "Independent Group" and the MP for Streatham forming his own party - "The Alternative".

Genuinely beyond parody.
It seems the ones who have stayed are against merging with the Libs.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Change UK have officially split - five MPs staying loyal, five forming a new "Independent Group" and the MP for Streatham forming his own party - "The Alternative".

Genuinely beyond parody.
Shame the splitters didn't call themselves UK Change...
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Quick Change UK. End-of-the-pier stuff.
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Hearing a rumour that Umunna wanted to join the LibDems *today* and was turned down :)
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(((Dan Hodges)))
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I stand corrected - The Alternative is apparently just the name of Chuka's "newsletter", which has supposedly been going a while but never impinged on my consciousness before now.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:I stand corrected - The Alternative is apparently just the name of Chuka's "newsletter", which has supposedly been going a while but never impinged on my consciousness before now.
Aha.

Someone on Twitter pointing out they should just have called themselves the Remain Party and got on with it. It's a fair point.
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Now this would be hilarious...
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Edit - and yes, I know it'll create a martyr as these types don't seem to understand things like "rules"...
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I'm sure he could negotiate with them to get his pass back, should it be withdrawn . . .
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The Malthouse Compromise II -
Kit Malthouse withdraws from Tory leadership contest (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Bob Seely (MP for the Isle of Wight, and a Michael Gove supporter) on TV making the case for USA involvement in the NHS.



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Eh? The Home Secretary wasn't invited to the State Banquet?

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Home secretary Sajid Javid was snubbed from attending the lavish state banquet in honour of Donald Trump at Buckingham Palace.

Mr Javid, the son of Pakistani Muslim parents, was the only holder of a great office of state - which include prime minister, foreign secretary, home secretary and chancellor - not to be invited to the opulent dinner hosted by the Queen.

The omission of the Conservative leadership hopeful from the guest list has raised eyebrows in Westminster, as rivals Jeremy Hunt, the foreign secretary, and Michael Gove, the environment secretary, were among senior ministers in attendance.

Mr Javid previously condemned the president for sharing Islamophobic tweets from the far-right extremist group Britain First in 2017.
Ah...either they didn't want to upset their guest or he had a veto - whichever it is, it's still looks pretty bad.
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