Friday 26th July 2019

Post by **refitman** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 7:02 am

Morning all.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 7:59 am

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... es-prisons" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:01 am

https://www.theguardian.com/society/com ... gotten-nhs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:02 am

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... hatcherite" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:07 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49043973" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:09 am

Avoiding work in a fridge/freezer has it's compensations

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:17 am

Granted,ankle deep in blood,not for everybody,doesn't bother me as long as it isn't my own.
There must be a word for people that revel in doing things that most would avoid,,or possibly two,I also like jumping up and down in bins.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:23 am

Having a mental age of about 5,possibly helps.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:35 am

Crucially of course I have choice and endeavour zero ego/concern about "status",respect yourself,don't take yourself too seriously ,maintain perspective on what really is important.IMHO .You can realise "ambitions";utilise knowledge and skills such as they are on any way you wish.To be honest,I've done my "real job" as far as I am concerned "Thankyou for being you" can't get any higher.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:44 am

Maintaining a hatred for the Tory Party,an easily met and continued "ambition"

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:46 am

Morning all.

I heard the sound of distant thunder and then the cat, who had gone for a post-breakfast wander to the bottom of the garden, raced back to the safety of my room.

Ah...here's the rain. Lovely to stand at open doors into the garden and just appreciate the cooling down effect.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:47 am

McVey; Minister for destroying housing?FFS.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 8:49 am

Not raining here,but enjoying a nice breeze in the garden.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 9:07 am

Good morfternoon.

Priti Patel paid £1,000 an hour as adviser to firm supplying MoD

New home secretary has been working for communications firm Viasat as strategic adviser
(Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... plying-mod

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 11:14 am

HindleA wrote:Maintaining a hatred for the Tory Party,an easily met and continued "ambition"

You can say that again.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 11:19 am

"Maint..

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 11:39 am

The difference between the English and Scottish editions of the right wing rags in the last few days. As they say, discuss......

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 1:47 pm

The laziness,deceit,negligence,conspiratorial and discriminatory based nature of putting evidence based opinion concerning the Cabinet members into a "Corbynite"box ,continues unabated.Funny enough I have no need to be co-ordinated and my opinion has nothing to do with Norris the belisha beacon affiliation.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 1:50 pm

"Moderate"extremism is somehow diffetent.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 1:54 pm

Though it is somewhat "ironic" that the brainwashed accusers can't see brainwashing tactics and respond accordingly.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 1:59 pm

Did I intimate "drone" like behaviour,may have done.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 2:20 pm

DFH excelling himself today, I see.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 2:30 pm

Read that as DFS

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 2:36 pm

Constance making a "We want a General Election"placard

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 2:39 pm

Obviously part of a co-ordinated sinister plot of the domestic pet branch of the Corbynistas/Corbynites/Corbytrouserpressists.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 2:39 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:The difference between the English and Scottish editions of the right wing rags in the last few days. As they say, discuss......

edited to write
found them

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 2:40 pm

Good afternoon, everyone.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 2:45 pm

HindleA wrote:Constance making a "We want a General Election"placard

Is there anything Constance can't do beautifully? I think not. We'll frame her placards following the happy result.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 2:48 pm

Not all that good at calligraphy.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 2:51 pm

Think I'd better stop at four litres of ice-cream-for now anyway.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 3:03 pm

HindleA wrote:Though it is somewhat "ironic" that the brainwashed accusers can't see brainwashing tactics and respond accordingly.

...Frieda was sharp, abominably sharp, and quite capable of remarking, "You love one of the young gentlemen opposite, yes?" The remark would be untrue, but of the kind which, if stated often enough, may become true; just as the remark, "England and Germany are bound to fight," renders war a little more likely each time that it is made, and is therefore made the more readily by the gutter press of either nation. Have the private emotions also their gutter press? Margaret thought so, and feared that good Aunt Juley and Frieda were typical specimens of it. They might, by continual chatter, lead Helen into a repetition of the desires of June. Into a repetition--they could not do more; they could not lead her into lasting love. They were--she saw it clearly--Journalism; her father, with all his defects and wrong-headedness, had been Literature, and had he lived, he would have persuaded his daughter rightly.

Howard's End
E. M. Forster

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 3:08 pm

HindleA wrote:Think I'd better stop at four litres of ice-cream-for now anyway.

What flavour?

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 3:31 pm

Fantasist "Nick" Beech gets 18 years in jail. I am not presently aware if the deputy leader of the Labour party has been asked to comment.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 3:37 pm

Tobias Ellwood (Defence) has been sacked.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 5:17 pm

Boris Johnson urged to dismiss aide who called far-right activist a hero

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rie-waters

However, a source close to Westley said she regretted the comment and that at the time she did not know Waters’ beliefs, which she did not support or endorse, and believed were “reprehensible”.

Before the tweet was sent, Waters had been recorded while standing for Ukip in the 2015 general election calling for mosques to be closed and for a complete halt on all Muslim immigration to the UK.

She was also barred by Ukip from standing for the party in the 2016 London assembly elections because of her role in Pegida.

It may be just me but someone who has just been hired for her skills in digital media might not be particularly good at it given the above. Either that or she's just lying.

Useless or a liar - which is it?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 5:25 pm

I don't know if he's right about the project but it doesn't matter. He's brilliant in this one.

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citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 5:29 pm

PorFavor wrote:Tobias Ellwood (Defence) has been sacked.

I don't know the former Defence minister but he's got a wonderful name - Tobias Ellwood - like a character out of an Edith Wharton story
Or maybe an H. P. Lovecraft

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 6:02 pm

citizenJA wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Tobias Ellwood (Defence) has been sacked.
I don't know the former Defence minister but he's got a wonderful name - Tobias Ellwood - like a character out of an Edith Wharton story
Or maybe an H. P. Lovecraft

I think he's got a bit of a "poster-boy" image and following (he was the bloke who tried to save the policeman who was attacked outside Parliament and, I suppose to many, he'd be considered quite good-looking) with some sections of the Conservatives. So, if for that reason alone, he was bound to be for the chop!

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 6:18 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote: Useless or a liar - which is it?

Either or both makes her a good fit.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 6:19 pm

citizenJA wrote:I don't know if he's right about the project but it doesn't matter. He's brilliant in this one.

[youtube]lQUglnEmhOc[/youtube]

Was that a response to the news that Andrew Gilligan has just been hired as transport adviser in No 10?

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 6:22 pm

PorFavor wrote: I suppose to many, he'd be considered quite good-looking

That's reminded me, a few times during the leadership campaign I idly wondered why they were all so ugly.

Ellwood is an adonis by comparison.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 6:23 pm

PorFavor wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Tobias Ellwood (Defence) has been sacked.
I don't know the former Defence minister but he's got a wonderful name - Tobias Ellwood - like a character out of an Edith Wharton story
Or maybe an H. P. Lovecraft
I think he's got a bit of a "poster-boy" image and following (he was the bloke who tried to save the policeman who was attacked outside Parliament and, I suppose to many, he'd be considered quite good-looking) with some sections of the Conservatives. So, if for that reason alone, he was bound to be for the chop!

He's maybe not somebody who the new PM really wants to make into an enemy.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 6:30 pm

Well, at least Suella Braverman hasn't been given a job.

Interesting that some of the op ERG people are on the outside apart from Mogg who as Leader of the House can't be really be seen to go against the PM.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 6:32 pm

@ AnatolyKasparov

Yes, I'd agree. (Forgot to add that Boris Johnson may have made a misstep).

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 6:38 pm

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I'd consider myself a bit of a politics junkie but since Wednesday I can't turn on the telly or radio. It's as if I know I have rats in my cellar and have boarded the door shut, hoping they'll die of natural causes

10:11 AM - 26 Jul 2019

This.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 6:50 pm

My last post was edited to add the bit in brackets. It's so often the brackets that get me one way or another . . .

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 6:54 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
citizenJA wrote:---
Was that a response to the news that Andrew Gilligan has just been hired as transport adviser in No 10?

(cJA edit)
No, I was just trying to keep up morale.

I love the environment like I love my family. I like trains and other public transportation projects giving people the option of not owning a motor vehicle. I'm not convinced HS2 is part of essential infrastructure.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 7:02 pm

gilsey wrote:
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I'd consider myself a bit of a politics junkie but since Wednesday I can't turn on the telly or radio. It's as if I know I have rats in my cellar and have boarded the door shut, hoping they'll die of natural causes

10:11 AM - 26 Jul 2019
This.

It's a rational response to current political events. I read some Hansard last night. Johnson's contributions were terrifying.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 7:24 pm

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 26 Jul, 2019 7:26 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/ju ... -by-police" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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