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Thursday 8th August 2019

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Morning all.
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Good morning.

Anyone around?
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Jo Swinson seems to be doing her best to wreck the Lib Dem resurgence!

Won't work with Labour while Corbyn is leader.

Does she think Labour is going to ditch its leader at her behest?
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She's also said she won't work with the SNP, maybe slight delusions of grandeur here?
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Yes whereas SNP and Labour making noises about being able to cooperate.
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Though of course the Nats would very much like her seat back.
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https://bylinetimes.com/2019/08/06/brex ... continues/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brexit Party MP Candidates –
Chums and Comrades
THE INTRIGUE CONTINUES
£100 for ordinary folk to apply to stand for the Brexit Company. Most of whom are clearly never genuinely considered. Presumably it's within electoral rules for private companies to take part in democracy in this somewhat non-democratic way, but I rather wonder if the rules should be changed, as it seems to me they shouldn't.
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Afternoon all.

Interesting thread about technical education by someone who used to the DfE's special adviser on exactly that topic.

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This stood out.
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But we have been crap at technical education though for 70+ years. Why? Fundamentally, because people with influence (politicians, journalists, business leaders) don’t think about it.

Why don’t influential people think about technical education? Three reasons. 1: Because hardly any influential people did it.
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52-48?

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RogerOThornhill wrote:52-48?

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What the recent Scottish independence poll said as well :D
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I see Gerard Lyons - the PM's favourite economist according to the DT - is tipped to become the next BoE Governor.

This is a bit awkward though (from wiki)...
EU Referendum
An economist by profession and previous vocal opponent of the UK joining the Exchange Rate Mechanism and Euro currency, Lyons is a staunch advocate of a so-called ‘Clean Brexit’.[27] Whilst Lyons has previously held that the best economic decision for Britain was to remain in a ‘significantly reformed’ EU, he believes that this is not possible and that in fact a no-deal Brexit may be the only viable option for leaving the EU.[28] Lyons, during the campaign, co-founded Economists for Brexit which aimed to provide the economic case for leaving.[29] However, he publicly criticized the use of the £350 million figure on the side of the Vote Leave bus.[30] At the time, Lyons pointed that the figure did not take into account the rebate and funds that come from the EU. He suggested a net figure of £163 million a week should have been used.[31]
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Replacing Mark Carney with Gerard Lyons is a bit like replacing Jurgen Klopp with John Beck.
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Why stop at Lyons? Why not Ruth Lea or Liam Halligan? This is the Zumafication of the UK.

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Alexandra Phillips MEP
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How can the Lib Dems claim Corbyn is a greater economic threat than a PM who is willing to risk food shortages & greater austerity?

If we want to stop no-deal, let's unite behind that, rather that lowering ourselves to pathetic political point scoring.
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Yes Swinson has rather backed herself into a corner hasn't she?
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Michael Rosen on a roll again.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1159 ... 64256.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Horrid gnu crab surprisingly uses payout from Sun to recruit disadvantaged intern (7,6).
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refitman wrote:Michael Rosen on a roll again.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1159 ... 64256.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I was thinking only this afternoon that Dominic Cummings makes Seumas Milne seem almost cuddly by comparison.
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PorFavor wrote:
refitman wrote:Michael Rosen on a roll again.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1159 ... 64256.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I was thinking only this afternoon that Dominic Cummings makes Seumas Milne seem almost cuddly by comparison.
Someone made the point that all sorts rail over Milne 'running Labour from the shadows', but are strangely silent over Cummings.
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I rarely look at edu stories but this one caught my eye.

The Gove gang are back in business

https://www.tes.com/news/gove-gang-are-back-business
This is a web of connected right-leaning educationalists who are committed to school reform, free schools, academisation and traditional curriculum and pedagogy.

If you take Mirza as an example: while she has never worked directly for Gove, she is on the advisory council of Parents and Teachers for Excellence, the group that lobbies for traditional standards in schools, set up by former Gove and No 10 adviser Rachel Wolf, who in turn set up Public First, a Whitehall consultancy that until earlier this month employed Narozanski as a consultant. Narozanski, of course, worked with Mirza at City Hall, after having worked for Gove in the DfE with Cummings.

This group has strong links to Policy Exchange, the think tank that Gove founded while in opposition, in which Sam Freedman, another former Gove adviser, Jonathan Simons, and Narozanski did much of the heavy policy lifting around areas such as free schools. And where does Simons work now? Public First.
Anyway, that led me to take a look at the Public First website and as I usually do, went to the people bit.

http://www.publicfirst.co.uk/our-people.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Natascha Engel
Natascha Engel is a Partner at Public First. As Labour MP in a former coal-mining constituency from 2005 to 2017, she specialised in energy and infrastructure policy before becoming Deputy Speaker of the House of Commons, a role in which she developed a deep understanding of how Parliamentary procedure works in practice. After leaving Parliament, she was appointed the Government’s first Commissioner for Shale Gas to liaise between local communities, regulators, industry and government. Natascha has many years of political campaign experience, from traditional trade union organising and mobilising to playing a critical role in the Labour Party’s winning 2001 Key Seat strategy and continues to take a keen interest in Labour Party policy.

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Engel certainly wasn't regarded as a right winger (even in Labour party terms) when she became an MP in 2005. I do wonder what happened with her (and a few others)
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Hello, everyone.
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citizenJA wrote:Hello, everyone.
Aren't you normally saying goodnight around now? ;)
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yep
I wanted to say hello first
I'm looking at the news after having done different things all afternoon
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refitman wrote:Michael Rosen on a roll again.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1159 ... 64256.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I liked this a lot
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Michael Rosen is a wonderful writer. I enjoy everything I read from him.
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Goodnight, everyone.
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