Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Wednesday 21st August 2019
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Lying Lib Dem is confused Jonsonian news (6,7).
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Indeed, in response to AK last night, I have rarely seen a Tweet fare so badly!
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Was busy yesterday evening so apologies if I missed this
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Good morning, everyone.
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What in the world was she thinkingPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Indeed, in response to AK last night, I have rarely seen a Tweet fare so badly!
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We're well into you couldn't make it up territory, with Trump/Greenland and Johnson's latest wizard wheeze.
No 10 apparently backtracking like crazy on that one.Johnson’s big idea to replace the backstop? Allies tell me he wants a bilateral agreement with Ireland that will see Dublin diverge from EU rules temporarily to share a common rule book with the UK
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Well its (mostly) worked for Trump hasn't it?citizenJA wrote:What in the world was she thinkingPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Indeed, in response to AK last night, I have rarely seen a Tweet fare so badly!
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"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
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Good morfternoon.
(Mutjaba Rahman is billed as a Brexit specialist from the Asia consultancy. Never heard of it, personally.)
(Mutjaba Rahman is billed as a Brexit specialist from the Asia consultancy. Never heard of it, personally.)
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I hear No10 hosing down Sun story. Boris allies say he’s not considering any plan that requires Ireland to leave Single Market or pretends it can be in or out of it at same time. Minister quoted in story appears to have no idea of govt’s plans. Good
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Interesting piece on being "divisive" - perhaps a bit longer than it needed to be to make the point.
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To be more accurate, some of them can't - one of the interesting things about the past week has been the splits appearing in their ranks on Corbyn's offer.gilsey wrote:Goodall has written up his thread of a few days ago.
Remainers can no longer take yes for an answer
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Of course, we've got bags of spare money swilling around here in the sunny south.Brexit no-deal funding 'too little, too late', says Portsmouth council leader
Gerald Vernon-Jackson dismisses £9m pledge, saying his council alone has spent £4m preparing the port
(Guardian)
Can't stand Gerald Vernon-Jackson, but nevertheless . . .
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I'm getting "page not found", I'm afraidPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Interesting piece on being "divisive" - perhaps a bit longer than it needed to be to make the point.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... bour-leade" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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So am I.
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A major review of HS2 has been launched (Sky TV news).
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There was an 'r' missing from the url. Fixed now.AnatolyKasparov wrote:I'm getting "page not found", I'm afraidPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Interesting piece on being "divisive" - perhaps a bit longer than it needed to be to make the point.
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Thanks - I've read it now that refitman has got your "r"s into gear.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Interesting piece on being "divisive" - perhaps a bit longer than it needed to be to make the point.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... our-leader" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I thought it was a good article and didn't find it overly long.
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An excellent article"Exposing division is not the same as causing it."
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McDuff is usually good.
Is it me, or do voices who aren't totally anti-Corbyn seem to be getting a bit more exposure at the Graun recently?
Is it me, or do voices who aren't totally anti-Corbyn seem to be getting a bit more exposure at the Graun recently?
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Yes my rs have been thoroughly kicked.PorFavor wrote:Thanks - I've read it now that refitman has got your "r"s into gear.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Interesting piece on being "divisive" - perhaps a bit longer than it needed to be to make the point.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... our-leader" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I thought it was a good article and didn't find it overly long.
Glad you enjoyed it
As to whether it was too long, I guess opinion is divided on the subject!
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I'm absolutely delighted and honoured to have been appointed by @JoSwinson as the @LibDems new Shadow Foreign Secretary, scrutinising the work of @DominicRaab and the @ForeignOffice
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I'm absolutely delighted and honoured to have been appointed by @JoSwinson as the @LibDems new Shadow Foreign Secretary, scrutinising the work of @DominicRaab and the @ForeignOffice
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'Unelected PM ... gambling with peace' - Irish European commissioner launches fierce attack on Boris Johnson
Phil Hogan, the European commissioner for agriculture and an Irish politician from Leo Varadkar’s Fine Gael party, has launched what the Irish Independent (rightly) describes as a “scathing attack” on Boris Johnson. He was speaking this morning at an event in Carlingford in Ireland. Hogan’s own account of his message on Twitter is bland and unexceptional. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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I get the impression that he'd be "absolutely delighted and honoured" to be appointed by anyone to anything (politically).PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Chuka Umunna
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UK will still have to pay £39bn to EU even in event of no-deal Brexit, France claims
Reuters has some more news alerts from the French government briefing also attended by Bloomberg. (See 3.26pm.) They’re capped up, because that’s how Reuters sends them out on the news wires.
EU POSITION ON BREXIT WON’T CHANGE EVEN IN CASE OF PRESSURE FROM TRUMP - FRENCH OFFICIAL
EVEN IN CASE OF NO-DEAL, EU WILL CONSIDER BREXIT BILL TO BE DUE - FRENCH OFFICIAL
EU WOULD PROBABLY ACCEPT TO GRANT BRITAIN A DELAY ON BREXIT TO HOLD NEW ELECTIONS - FRENCH OFFICIAL
BRITAIN SHOULD HAVE NO DOUBT FRANCE, GERMANY AND OTHER EU COUNTRIES ARE TOTALLY UNITED - FRENCH OFFICIAL (Politics Live, Guardian)
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This is funny if you're a Life of Brian fan
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Looking forward to him and Raab having a smarm-offPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Chuka Umunna
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I'm sure the real Shadow Foreign Secretary will be delighted to let him take her place
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However journalists, commentators and Boris Johnson may spin it, Angela Merkel hasn't said anything substantive that she hasn't said previously, it seems to me.
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Flash I love you but we only have 30 days to solve the backstop.PorFavor wrote:However journalists, commentators and Boris Johnson may spin it, Angela Merkel hasn't said anything substantive that she hasn't said previously, it seems to me.
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Too many zombies btl telling us that Ed's brother would have given us Labour landslides foreverPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Was busy yesterday evening so apologies if I missed this
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I know we aren't supposed to say this, but some people really DO uncritically believe what the media tells them and are incapable of thinking for themselves.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexitCorbyn arranges all-party 'tactics' meeting to fight no-deal Brexit
Labour leader urges MPs to join him and work together to head off ‘constitutional storm’
Jeremy Corbyn will gather opposition leaders and Tory rebels at a meeting in parliament next week to discuss the fight against a no-deal Brexit, amid continuing splits over tactics to prevent Boris Johnson leading a crash-out from the EU on 31 October.
The Labour leader invited SNP, Liberal Democrat, Plaid Cymru, Conservative and independent MPs to visit his office on Tuesday, as he urged them to talk about “all tactics available to prevent no deal”.
His invitation was immediately accepted by Ian Blackford, the SNP Westminster leader, who has been calling for weeks for opposition parties to work together. “All options must be on the table. The SNP stands ready to pursue every avenue, including passing legislation to block no deal and a vote of no confidence in the Tory government,” he said.
Jo Swinson, the Lib Dem leader, also accepted the invitation but argued that Corbyn should drop the idea of trying to become a temporary caretaker prime minister. (Guardian)
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Why did the G add 'report says' to that headline? Is anybody disputing that it's a fact? Is the Children's Commissioner not a statutory appointment?HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... eport-says
The role was initially established under the Children Act 2004 which gave the Commissioner responsibility for promoting awareness of the views and interests of children......................The Children and Families Act 2014 further strengthened the remit, powers and independence of the Commissioner, and gave her special responsibility for the rights of children who are in or leaving care, living away from home or receiving social care services. She also speaks for wider groups of children on non-devolved issues including immigration (for the whole of the UK) and youth justice (for England and Wales).
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I noticed that too. I've said it before and it remains true. Advertising and propaganda work. A lot of time and resources go into it.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Too many zombies btl telling us that Ed's brother would have given us Labour landslides foreverPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Was busy yesterday evening so apologies if I missed this
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... d-miliband" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I know we aren't supposed to say this, but some people really DO uncritically believe what the media tells them and are incapable of thinking for themselves.
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I love you, all.
Goodnight.
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Goodnight.
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