Wednesday 21st August 2019

[refitman]

Morning all.

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... eport-says" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.u ... ak-houses/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Lying Lib Dem is confused Jonsonian news (6,7).

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Indeed, in response to AK last night, I have rarely seen a Tweet fare so badly!

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Was busy yesterday evening so apologies if I missed this

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... d-miliband" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jeremy-corbyn-moral-ed-miliband

[citizenJA]

Good morning, everyone.

[gilsey]

Goodall has written up his thread of a few days ago.

Remainers can no longer take yes for an answer

[citizenJA]

Indeed, in response to AK last night, I have rarely seen a Tweet fare so badly!

What in the world was she thinking

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[gilsey]

We're well into you couldn't make it up territory, with Trump/Greenland and Johnson's latest wizard wheeze.

Johnson’s big idea to replace the backstop? Allies tell me he wants a bilateral agreement with Ireland that will see Dublin diverge from EU rules temporarily to share a common rule book with the UK

No 10 apparently backtracking like crazy on that one.

[AnatolyKasparov]

Indeed, in response to AK last night, I have rarely seen a Tweet fare so badly!

What in the world was she thinking

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Well its (mostly) worked for Trump hasn't it?

[citizenJA]

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

[PorFavor]

Good morfternoon.

(Mutjaba Rahman is billed as a Brexit specialist from the Asia consultancy. Never heard of it, personally.)

Mujtaba Rahman @Mij_Europe

I hear No10 hosing down Sun story. Boris allies say he’s not considering any plan that requires Ireland to leave Single Market or pretends it can be in or out of it at same time. Minister quoted in story appears to have no idea of govt’s plans. Good
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9:44 AM - Aug 21, 2019 (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)

Good?

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Interesting piece on being "divisive" - perhaps a bit longer than it needed to be to make the point.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... our-leader" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[AnatolyKasparov]

Goodall has written up his thread of a few days ago.

Remainers can no longer take yes for an answer

To be more accurate, some of them can't - one of the interesting things about the past week has been the splits appearing in their ranks on Corbyn's offer.

[PorFavor]

Brexit no-deal funding 'too little, too late', says Portsmouth council leader

Gerald Vernon-Jackson dismisses £9m pledge, saying his council alone has spent £4m preparing the port
(Guardian)

Of course, we've got bags of spare money swilling around here in the sunny south.

Can't stand Gerald Vernon-Jackson, but nevertheless . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... cil-leader

[AnatolyKasparov]

Interesting piece on being "divisive" - perhaps a bit longer than it needed to be to make the point.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... bour-leade" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm getting "page not found", I'm afraid

[PorFavor]

So am I.

[PorFavor]

A major review of HS2 has been launched (Sky TV news).

[refitman]

Interesting piece on being "divisive" - perhaps a bit longer than it needed to be to make the point.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... bour-leade" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm getting "page not found", I'm afraid

There was an 'r' missing from the url. Fixed now.

[PorFavor]

Interesting piece on being "divisive" - perhaps a bit longer than it needed to be to make the point.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... our-leader" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks - I've read it now that refitman has got your "r"s into gear.

I thought it was a good article and didn't find it overly long.

[citizenJA]

"Exposing division is not the same as causing it."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... our-leader" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

An excellent article

[AnatolyKasparov]

McDuff is usually good.

Is it me, or do voices who aren't totally anti-Corbyn seem to be getting a bit more exposure at the Graun recently?

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Interesting piece on being "divisive" - perhaps a bit longer than it needed to be to make the point.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... our-leader" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks - I've read it now that refitman has got your "r"s into gear.

I thought it was a good article and didn't find it overly long.

Yes my rs have been thoroughly kicked.

Glad you enjoyed it

As to whether it was too long, I guess opinion is divided on the subject!

[PaulfromYorkshire]

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[PaulfromYorkshire]

Chuka Umunna
@ChukaUmunna
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3h
I'm absolutely delighted and honoured to have been appointed by @JoSwinson as the @LibDems new Shadow Foreign Secretary, scrutinising the work of @DominicRaab and the @ForeignOffice

[PorFavor]

15:21

'Unelected PM ... gambling with peace' - Irish European commissioner launches fierce attack on Boris Johnson

Phil Hogan, the European commissioner for agriculture and an Irish politician from Leo Varadkar’s Fine Gael party, has launched what the Irish Independent (rightly) describes as a “scathing attack” on Boris Johnson. He was speaking this morning at an event in Carlingford in Ireland. Hogan’s own account of his message on Twitter is bland and unexceptional. (Politics Live, Guardian)

[PorFavor]

Chuka Umunna
@ChukaUmunna
·
3h
I'm absolutely delighted and honoured to have been appointed by @JoSwinson as the @LibDems new Shadow Foreign Secretary, scrutinising the work of @DominicRaab and the @ForeignOffice

I get the impression that he'd be "absolutely delighted and honoured" to be appointed by anyone to anything (politically).

[PorFavor]

UK will still have to pay £39bn to EU even in event of no-deal Brexit, France claims

Reuters has some more news alerts from the French government briefing also attended by Bloomberg. (See 3.26pm.) They’re capped up, because that’s how Reuters sends them out on the news wires.

EU POSITION ON BREXIT WON’T CHANGE EVEN IN CASE OF PRESSURE FROM TRUMP - FRENCH OFFICIAL

EVEN IN CASE OF NO-DEAL, EU WILL CONSIDER BREXIT BILL TO BE DUE - FRENCH OFFICIAL

EU WOULD PROBABLY ACCEPT TO GRANT BRITAIN A DELAY ON BREXIT TO HOLD NEW ELECTIONS - FRENCH OFFICIAL

BRITAIN SHOULD HAVE NO DOUBT FRANCE, GERMANY AND OTHER EU COUNTRIES ARE TOTALLY UNITED - FRENCH OFFICIAL (Politics Live, Guardian)

[PaulfromYorkshire]

This is funny if you're a Life of Brian fan

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[AnatolyKasparov]

Chuka Umunna
@ChukaUmunna
·
3h
I'm absolutely delighted and honoured to have been appointed by @JoSwinson as the @LibDems new Shadow Foreign Secretary, scrutinising the work of @DominicRaab and the @ForeignOffice

Looking forward to him and Raab having a smarm-off

[PaulfromYorkshire]

I'm sure the real Shadow Foreign Secretary will be delighted to let him take her place

[PorFavor]

However journalists, commentators and Boris Johnson may spin it, Angela Merkel hasn't said anything substantive that she hasn't said previously, it seems to me.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

However journalists, commentators and Boris Johnson may spin it, Angela Merkel hasn't said anything substantive that she hasn't said previously, it seems to me.

Flash I love you but we only have 30 days to solve the backstop.

[AnatolyKasparov]

Was busy yesterday evening so apologies if I missed this

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... d-miliband" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jeremy-corbyn-moral-ed-miliband

Too many zombies btl telling us that Ed's brother would have given us Labour landslides forever

I know we aren't supposed to say this, but some people really DO uncritically believe what the media tells them and are incapable of thinking for themselves.

[PorFavor]

Corbyn arranges all-party 'tactics' meeting to fight no-deal Brexit

Labour leader urges MPs to join him and work together to head off ‘constitutional storm’

Jeremy Corbyn will gather opposition leaders and Tory rebels at a meeting in parliament next week to discuss the fight against a no-deal Brexit, amid continuing splits over tactics to prevent Boris Johnson leading a crash-out from the EU on 31 October.

The Labour leader invited SNP, Liberal Democrat, Plaid Cymru, Conservative and independent MPs to visit his office on Tuesday, as he urged them to talk about “all tactics available to prevent no deal”.

His invitation was immediately accepted by Ian Blackford, the SNP Westminster leader, who has been calling for weeks for opposition parties to work together. “All options must be on the table. The SNP stands ready to pursue every avenue, including passing legislation to block no deal and a vote of no confidence in the Tory government,” he said.

Jo Swinson, the Lib Dem leader, also accepted the invitation but argued that Corbyn should drop the idea of trying to become a temporary caretaker prime minister. (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit


Edited - tidy up

[gilsey]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... eport-says

Why did the G add 'report says' to that headline? Is anybody disputing that it's a fact? Is the Children's Commissioner not a statutory appointment?

The role was initially established under the Children Act 2004 which gave the Commissioner responsibility for promoting awareness of the views and interests of children......................The Children and Families Act 2014 further strengthened the remit, powers and independence of the Commissioner, and gave her special responsibility for the rights of children who are in or leaving care, living away from home or receiving social care services. She also speaks for wider groups of children on non-devolved issues including immigration (for the whole of the UK) and youth justice (for England and Wales).

[citizenJA]

Was busy yesterday evening so apologies if I missed this

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... d-miliband" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jeremy-corbyn-moral-ed-miliband

Too many zombies btl telling us that Ed's brother would have given us Labour landslides forever

I know we aren't supposed to say this, but some people really DO uncritically believe what the media tells them and are incapable of thinking for themselves.

I noticed that too. I've said it before and it remains true. Advertising and propaganda work. A lot of time and resources go into it.

[citizenJA]

I love you, all.
Goodnight.
cJA