I told everyone, "vote Labour", during the 2015 GE campaign.PorFavor wrote:I'll sum up for you.citizenJA wrote:I haven't seen or heard news until now.
Boris Johnson is determined to have his own way, Philip Hammond is a broken reed, and the DUP is preparing their invoice.
Wednesday 28th August 2019
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It's a mistake bringing up that US guy.
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The outrageous gets a kind of publicity unhelpful for regular people.
The comparison is unhelpful in the context it was made.
The comparison is unhelpful in the context it was made.
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I haven't heard anything from Rory Stewart.
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He's wandering in a field trying to get a mobile phone signal.PorFavor wrote:I haven't heard anything from Rory Stewart.
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(cJA emphasis)[Conservative MP Dominic] Grieve said he and colleagues working to stop no deal would be working tirelessly before parliament returned on 3 September on a plan to show their unhappiness with prorogation. He also said Johnson was aware that parliament as a whole had no desire for a suspension during the conference recess period.
“We are in the middle of a national crisis. The prime minister knows very well that the Commons was resolved not to break for the conference recess. Normal prorogation is five, six days at most and his decision to go around and do this shows his reckless disregard for the way the UK functions. It is certainly not illegal but it’s constitutionally wrong.”
If it's constitutionally wrong, it's illegal, Grieve.
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He’s been in Sunderland today.PorFavor wrote:I haven't heard anything from Rory Stewart.
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Evening all. I seem to have missed all the fun...
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Very good.RogerOThornhill wrote:Evening all. I seem to have missed all the fun...
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When the High Court rejected one of the attempts to overturn the referendum result, they did so in part on the basis that as it was an advisory referendum, parliament had reserved the power to see the process through to themselves. From the judgement-
What Johnson has done today is generally outrageous, but this also makes it specifically outrageous.And, I repeat, the fact that Parliament has maintained control over withdrawal makes it patently inappropriate for the court to intervene.
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Not quite so pointless as you thought?Willow904 wrote:Due to previous Tory government shenanigans we are, of course, well overdue a Queen's Speech. Complaining about protocol is pointless.
The only real course of action at this point is to bring the government down.
And the only real hope of avoiding no deal is now the rather unlikely caretaker government scenario to ask the EU for an extension to article 50 in order to hold an election. Which Labour then have to win. A tall order. I said back in March MPs may come to regret not voting through May's WA. I think some of them have said as much already.
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I could do with a shot of John McDonnell. It might make me feel a bit better.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Not quite so pointless as you thought?Willow904 wrote:Due to previous Tory government shenanigans we are, of course, well overdue a Queen's Speech. Complaining about protocol is pointless.
The only real course of action at this point is to bring the government down.
And the only real hope of avoiding no deal is now the rather unlikely caretaker government scenario to ask the EU for an extension to article 50 in order to hold an election. Which Labour then have to win. A tall order. I said back in March MPs may come to regret not voting through May's WA. I think some of them have said as much already.
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Complaining about protocol hasn't exactly stopped him, has it?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Not quite so pointless as you thought?Willow904 wrote:Due to previous Tory government shenanigans we are, of course, well overdue a Queen's Speech. Complaining about protocol is pointless.
The only real course of action at this point is to bring the government down.
And the only real hope of avoiding no deal is now the rather unlikely caretaker government scenario to ask the EU for an extension to article 50 in order to hold an election. Which Labour then have to win. A tall order. I said back in March MPs may come to regret not voting through May's WA. I think some of them have said as much already.
Grieve, Hammond et al are very good at complaining but until a big enough chunk of Tory rebels actually do something the situation is pretty hopeless really.
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Perhaps you are right Willow but it feels like there is something building. I don't think it's pointless.
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If HindleA were here (where is he?) He would probably suggest this was code for you fancying a whisky!PorFavor wrote:I could do with a shot of John McDonnell. It might make me feel a bit better.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Not quite so pointless as you thought?Willow904 wrote:Due to previous Tory government shenanigans we are, of course, well overdue a Queen's Speech. Complaining about protocol is pointless.
The only real course of action at this point is to bring the government down.
And the only real hope of avoiding no deal is now the rather unlikely caretaker government scenario to ask the EU for an extension to article 50 in order to hold an election. Which Labour then have to win. A tall order. I said back in March MPs may come to regret not voting through May's WA. I think some of them have said as much already.
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Good night, everyone.
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cJA
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