FlyTheNest

PorFavor wrote:

citizenJA wrote:I haven't seen or heard news until now.

I'll sum up for you.

Boris Johnson is determined to have his own way, Philip Hammond is a broken reed, and the DUP is preparing their invoice.

PorFavor wrote:I haven't heard anything from Rory Stewart.

[Conservative MP Dominic] Grieve said he and colleagues working to stop no deal would be working tirelessly before parliament returned on 3 September on a plan to show their unhappiness with prorogation. He also said Johnson was aware that parliament as a whole had no desire for a suspension during the conference recess period.

“We are in the middle of a national crisis. The prime minister knows very well that the Commons was resolved not to break for the conference recess. Normal prorogation is five, six days at most and his decision to go around and do this shows his reckless disregard for the way the UK functions. It is certainly not illegal but it’s constitutionally wrong.”

PorFavor wrote:I haven't heard anything from Rory Stewart.

RogerOThornhill wrote:Evening all. I seem to have missed all the fun...

This looks to be essential reading.

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And, I repeat, the fact that Parliament has maintained control over withdrawal makes it patently inappropriate for the court to intervene.

Willow904 wrote:Due to previous Tory government shenanigans we are, of course, well overdue a Queen's Speech. Complaining about protocol is pointless.

The only real course of action at this point is to bring the government down.

And the only real hope of avoiding no deal is now the rather unlikely caretaker government scenario to ask the EU for an extension to article 50 in order to hold an election. Which Labour then have to win. A tall order. I said back in March MPs may come to regret not voting through May's WA. I think some of them have said as much already.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

Willow904 wrote:Due to previous Tory government shenanigans we are, of course, well overdue a Queen's Speech. Complaining about protocol is pointless.

The only real course of action at this point is to bring the government down.

And the only real hope of avoiding no deal is now the rather unlikely caretaker government scenario to ask the EU for an extension to article 50 in order to hold an election. Which Labour then have to win. A tall order. I said back in March MPs may come to regret not voting through May's WA. I think some of them have said as much already.

Not quite so pointless as you thought?

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

Willow904 wrote:Due to previous Tory government shenanigans we are, of course, well overdue a Queen's Speech. Complaining about protocol is pointless.

The only real course of action at this point is to bring the government down.

And the only real hope of avoiding no deal is now the rather unlikely caretaker government scenario to ask the EU for an extension to article 50 in order to hold an election. Which Labour then have to win. A tall order. I said back in March MPs may come to regret not voting through May's WA. I think some of them have said as much already.

Not quite so pointless as you thought?

PorFavor wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

Willow904 wrote:Due to previous Tory government shenanigans we are, of course, well overdue a Queen's Speech. Complaining about protocol is pointless.

The only real course of action at this point is to bring the government down.

And the only real hope of avoiding no deal is now the rather unlikely caretaker government scenario to ask the EU for an extension to article 50 in order to hold an election. Which Labour then have to win. A tall order. I said back in March MPs may come to regret not voting through May's WA. I think some of them have said as much already.

Not quite so pointless as you thought?

I could do with a shot of John McDonnell. It might make me feel a bit better.