Thursday 2nd October

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 5:32 pm

HindleA wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Here's the link

http://jackofkent.com/2014/10/exclusive ... of-rights/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

oh apparently it's embargoed. Does that mean I should delete the quote? Or are we like him OK?

This got me "People who do not fulfil their responsibilities in society should not be able to claim so-called “qualified rights” in their defence in a court of law."

According to who and on what basis?

Once again. Who judges the judges...

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 5:35 pm

HindleA wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Here's the link

http://jackofkent.com/2014/10/exclusive ... of-rights/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

oh apparently it's embargoed. Does that mean I should delete the quote? Or are we like him OK?

This got me "People who do not fulfil their responsibilities in society should not be able to claim so-called “qualified rights” in their defence in a court of law."

According to who and on what basis?

Presumably those people are undesirables, and will be defined by the state. They may have to wear little badges on their clothes

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 5:36 pm

Ed Miliband when asked about Cameron's NHS faux-outrage, responded by saying ''I judge the Tories on their deeds not their words''

Right on brother!

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 5:38 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
HindleA wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Here's the link

http://jackofkent.com/2014/10/exclusive ... of-rights/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

oh apparently it's embargoed. Does that mean I should delete the quote? Or are we like him OK?

This got me "People who do not fulfil their responsibilities in society should not be able to claim so-called “qualified rights” in their defence in a court of law."

According to who and on what basis?
Presumably those people are undesirables, and will be defined by the state. They may have to wear little badges on their clothes

They'll be easily identifiably by their benefits cards I reckon

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 5:55 pm

Suzanne Moore: I clipped the hair from pensioners’ ears and prepared to insert the pink goo
How I became a Trainee Audiology Technician. In an actual hospital. I wore a white coat and everything.

http://www.newstatesman.com/2014/09/i-c ... t-pink-goo

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 5:59 pm

Tory Minister: Labour Party is dying because it’s “full of queers”
02
Thursday
Oct 2014
Posted by Tom Pride in pettiness ≈ 2 Comments
Tagsgay, Tories
(not satire – it’s the Tories!)

There’s an essential website if haven’t already seen it called ‘Politwoops’. It monitors and saves all tweets deleted by UK MPs.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:10 pm

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Heywood & Middleton by-election, from Survation released at 10pm, mean as it's from the Sun I doubt it will be too favourable to Labour..

Otherwise why would they do it?

Survation have done most by-election polls in this parliament, with a decent record overall.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:13 pm

Can't get the piccy's up

have tried re sizing, cutting and chopping um but this is what I get -
The file is too big, maximum allowed size is 256 KiB.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:24 pm

Tory politician caught snorting meow meow at party conference

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... z3F0dqURVm

Oooops

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:29 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
HindleA wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Here's the link

http://jackofkent.com/2014/10/exclusive ... of-rights/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

oh apparently it's embargoed. Does that mean I should delete the quote? Or are we like him OK?

This got me "People who do not fulfil their responsibilities in society should not be able to claim so-called “qualified rights” in their defence in a court of law."

According to who and on what basis?
Presumably those people are undesirables, and will be defined by the state. They may have to wear little badges on their clothes

What,another one?I've got two already.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:32 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Tory politician caught snorting meow meow at party conference

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... z3F0dqURVm

Oooops

He should have had a word with Osborne, he might have had some pointers for him ....... about the dangers of drugs, obviously.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:35 pm

From Jack Of Kents blog:

Limit the use of Human Rights laws to the most serious cases. They will no longer apply in trivial cases.

So things like the right to a fair trial, freedom of association (to form groups such as Trade Unions), the prohibition of discrimination and freedom of expression should only be protected by law in "the most serious cases".

As someone pointed out BTL on the blog, legislation to protect people's rights are meant to protect you from your own government and not, as the Tories are attempting to do, trying to strip us of our right if the Government deems we're not worthy.

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:40 pm

Some LDs are spiteful little fuckers & I hope to god we don't have to have a coalition in 2015 !

http://www.libdemvoice.org/favourabilit ... 42624.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Perusing the enemy borders though does occasionally throw up something of interest:

Why Vote Labour in 2015, written by Dan Jarvis & others.

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Apologies for the Amazon link - I haven't looked anywhere else

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:44 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Tory politician caught snorting meow meow at party conference

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... z3F0dqURVm

Oooops

I LOL'd at this particular para:

Still in his suit, he chopped the powder into thin lines with a card and snorted it through a banknote, boasting: “I’ve got a massive tolerance.”

Never heard it called a 'tolerance' before

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:45 pm

pk1 wrote:Some LDs are spiteful little fuckers & I hope to god we don't have to have a coalition in 2015 !

http://www.libdemvoice.org/favourabilit ... 42624.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Perusing the enemy borders though does occasionally throw up something of interest:

Why Vote Labour in 2015, written by Dan Jarvis & others.
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Apologies for the Amazon link - I haven't looked anywhere else

I saw earlier that Clegg had said "God help us" if we get any kind of Government that doesn't involve Nick Clegg. What a massive

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:47 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Can't get the piccy's up have tried re sizing, cutting and chopping um but this is what I get -
The file is too big, maximum allowed size is 256 KiB.

How about using something like Photobucket (it's free), uploading the pics there then just posting the link ?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 6:58 pm

David Cameron's Three Card Trick

http://touchstoneblog.org.uk/2014/10/da ... ard-trick/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 7:13 pm

Goodnight, everyone.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 7:16 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

Night PF.

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 7:17 pm

HindleA wrote:David Cameron's Three Card Trick

http://touchstoneblog.org.uk/2014/10/da ... ard-trick/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Very much like Bush in the US. There's a very good section about it in Al Franken's book Lies (and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them).

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 7:19 pm

You'll enjoy this. Tim Fenton on DFH

http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2014/ ... lunch.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 7:24 pm

Have we seen this one?

@UKELECTIONS2015 @LordAshcroft
@YOUGOV
AGED 18-24 voting intentions
LABOUR 46%
CONSERVATIVES 29%
GREENS 13%
UKIP 5%
LIBDEMS 5%
SNP / PC 2%

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 7:26 pm

Francesca "this is a morally disabled Government"Martinez has a segment on This Week tonight on the proposed benefit freeze.

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 7:29 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:You'll enjoy this. Tim Fenton on DFH

http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2014/ ... lunch.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ha ha, got it in one.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 7:33 pm

pk1 wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Can't get the piccy's up have tried re sizing, cutting and chopping um but this is what I get -
The file is too big, maximum allowed size is 256 KiB.
How about using something like Photobucket (it's free), uploading the pics there then just posting the link ?

I've never used any "share" programs (or pages) not sure how to keep things private whilst letting those I want to share with see them

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 7:56 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
pk1 wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Can't get the piccy's up have tried re sizing, cutting and chopping um but this is what I get -
The file is too big, maximum allowed size is 256 KiB.
How about using something like Photobucket (it's free), uploading the pics there then just posting the link ?
I've never used any "share" programs (or pages) not sure how to keep things private whilst letting those I want to share with see them

I did it! Over to the Pub! file named Ed Middleton

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 8:08 pm

Hi all

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... mentpage=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I got a bit abusive in my post.....couldn't help myself

Will be in premod or banned now.....luckily I still have some more emails I can use

Said what I felt though - pricks!

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 8:09 pm

Re the Hancock retweet, I'm sure I saw somewhere that when "accidentally" retweeting it he added an approving comment.

If that's the case, then it must have been an extraordinarily convoluted "accidently" retweet. Anyone got access to the original exchange? Would make his apology look utterly insincere.

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 8:30 pm

Hobiejoe wrote:Re the Hancock retweet, I'm sure I saw somewhere that when "accidentally" retweeting it he added an approving comment.

If that's the case, then it must have been an extraordinarily convoluted "accidently" retweet. Anyone got access to the original exchange? Would make his apology look utterly insincere.

I dont think the 'i like it comment' was related to the tweet.

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 8:33 pm

Temulkar wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote:Re the Hancock retweet, I'm sure I saw somewhere that when "accidentally" retweeting it he added an approving comment.

If that's the case, then it must have been an extraordinarily convoluted "accidently" retweet. Anyone got access to the original exchange? Would make his apology look utterly insincere.
I dont think the 'i like it comment' was related to the tweet.

That's a shame. Would've made a nice little smoking gun.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 8:46 pm

Simon Wren Lewis on "Mediamacro" again, and anti-Labour bollocks by supposed left-leaners.

http://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2014/ ... ently.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I mentioned last week the drubbing the supposedly left leaning Channel 4 news gave Ed Miliband because he forgot to mention the deficit. As anticipated, John Snow’s interview with Cameron was an altogether more friendly affair. But today their economics editor Paul Mason, whose journalism can be very good, was forced to acknowledge that this unfunded tax give away broke from the recent tradition where particular fiscal pledges were fully costed. But no fear, even Mr. Mason lives in mediamacro land. His final thought on this unfunded tax pledge - it puts Labour in a very difficult position!?! Unbelievable.

ChrisDean · Post by **ChrisDean** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 8:54 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Simon Wren Lewis on "Mediamacro" again, and anti-Labour bollocks by supposed left-leaners.

http://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2014/ ... ently.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I mentioned last week the drubbing the supposedly left leaning Channel 4 news gave Ed Miliband because he forgot to mention the deficit. As anticipated, John Snow’s interview with Cameron was an altogether more friendly affair. But today their economics editor Paul Mason, whose journalism can be very good, was forced to acknowledge that this unfunded tax give away broke from the recent tradition where particular fiscal pledges were fully costed. But no fear, even Mr. Mason lives in mediamacro land. His final thought on this unfunded tax pledge - it puts Labour in a very difficult position!?! Unbelievable.

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 8:54 pm

Germany gets rid of tuition fees

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher- ... 306c5ff3c7

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 8:56 pm

“We got rid of tuition fees because we do not want higher education which depends on the wealth of the parents,” said Gabriele Heinen-Kljajic of the Green party, the minister for science and culture in Lower Saxony

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 8:59 pm

Didn't Germany a few years ago think it had too many students because of its low (free?) fees? Very interesting change.

I'd rather spend the money on early years education, and have (some) fee for those who could pay. I prefer the Welsh position to Scotland's "flagship, which has involved pissing all over FE.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 8:59 pm

But better than England's shit.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:04 pm

Via Richard Blogger.

Hinchingbrooke not sounding too clever. Am I muddling things up, or wasn't the hospital basically OK before, just over budget?

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Hinchin ... 7utyM8Q.99" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Richard is pro-Labour, and was relatively kind to Burnham about Hitchingbrooke. Says the quango was basically out on a limb.

Anyone seen Chris Skidmore talking about Hitchingbrooke?

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:06 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Didn't Germany a few years ago think it had too many students because of its low (free?) fees? Very interesting change.

I'd rather spend the money on early years education, and have (some) fee for those who could pay. I prefer the Welsh position to Scotland's "flagship, which has involved pissing all over FE.

For once I can say the Welsh Education system is doing good things in Primary. Sadly there is a lot wrong with secondary.

ChrisDean · Post by **ChrisDean** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:07 pm

@Tubby Isaacs

Don't know what I did wrong there. Was trying to link "Unbelievable" with EMF.

Ne're mind. I'll see myself out..

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:12 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Via Richard Blogger.

Hinchingbrooke not sounding too clever. Am I muddling things up, or wasn't the hospital basically OK before, just over budget?

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Hinchin ... 7utyM8Q.99" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Richard is pro-Labour, and was relatively kind to Burnham about Hitchingbrooke. Says the quango was basically out on a limb.

Anyone seen Chris Skidmore talking about Hitchingbrooke?

There's a story on the HSJ.

http://www.hsj.co.uk/news/exclusive-hin ... ntID=15303

Unlike our permanently shouty troll, I haven't got a sub so can't read all the way down.

There was also one the other week about their finances which didn't sound good either- I can see them walking away soon.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:15 pm

Awwwwww
Won't someone say they like my Ed piccy's ?
Took me ages to get them loaded as well ...
(kicks floor - and stubs toe...)

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:21 pm

Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB · 22 secs23 seconds ago
A big boost for CON in the YouGov daily poll? Sun Tweeting to say numbers "interesting". 1st full poll after Dave speech

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:24 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB · 22 secs23 seconds ago
A big boost for CON in the YouGov daily poll? Sun Tweeting to say numbers "interesting". 1st full poll after Dave speech

Will not be surprising seeing the media has fawned over it.......we will have to wait and see how it works when the questions start coming and the Tories continue to dissemble about how it can be done and paid for

Labour needs to stick the boot in though....starting tonight. Stop being polite and show this bunch of crooks, charlatans and liars for what they are

Edited

'ynad' for 'and' - looks Welsh so will have to ask the missus what it means!
'lairs' for 'liars'

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:26 pm

Temulkar wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Didn't Germany a few years ago think it had too many students because of its low (free?) fees? Very interesting change.

I'd rather spend the money on early years education, and have (some) fee for those who could pay. I prefer the Welsh position to Scotland's "flagship, which has involved pissing all over FE.
For once I can say the Welsh Education system is doing good things in Primary. Sadly there is a lot wrong with secondary.

That's what I've heard. Is it worse though than NE England, an area with similar incomes and problems?

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:37 pm

Could be a big boost fr the Kippers.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:39 pm

This another of those "gamechangers" is it?

Like the EU Veto, the return of growth, the Olympics, Osborne's pension plans.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:40 pm

Douglas Carswell praising the plans.

What a thinker he is.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:44 pm

Ed Miliband visits Middleton to support Liz McInnes

[youtube]Aa24N57zSeg[/youtube]

We were in front and to the left (looking at the screen) of ED. Press in front of us.
(I'll bet the embed doesn't work so here's the link
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AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:53 pm

HuffPostUKPoliticsVerified account
‏@HuffPostUKPol Farage in bizarre bacon challenge to Miliband, does not look any less weird

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 02 Oct, 2014 9:57 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Ed Miliband visits Middleton to support Liz McInnes

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We were in front and to the left (looking at the screen) of ED. Press in front of us.
(I'll bet the embed doesn't work so here's the link
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Thanks for pics and vid.