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Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th September 2019

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Morning all.
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Morning all. Not here for long - school meeting soon.

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I'm sure that'll go down well with the rest of the gung-ho No deal cabinet...
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Good morning all, Morgan's interview was indeed pretty hilarious it seems. Though maybe not intentionally.
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‘Eliminate the teachers’
Ah, yes, "Google classroom".

Teachers are always telling me they have put things on Google classroom for my son when I contact them with concerns about difficulties he's having with homework because of his ASD. To date these resources have never proved very useful for him, despite the Senco's enthusiasm for it. He rarely looks at it unless prompted and when he does he struggles to make sense of the hotpotch of stuff teachers have put on it for him. I usually end up asking for a textbook in the end which he finds more useful but nothing really compares to teacher input and small class sizes imho.
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Willow904 wrote:https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2019/septemb ... e-teachers
‘Eliminate the teachers’
Ah, yes, "Google classroom".

Teachers are always telling me they have put things on Google classroom for my son when I contact them with concerns about difficulties he's having with homework because of his ASD. To date these resources have never proved very useful for him, despite the Senco's enthusiasm for it. He rarely looks at it unless prompted and when he does he struggles to make sense of the hotpotch of stuff teachers have put on it for him. I usually end up asking for a textbook in the end which he finds more useful but nothing really compares to teacher input and small class sizes imho.
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A useful additional tool for teachers to add to other resources and teaching methods but it can never replace teachers who are able to adapt to children's individual learning needs, something a generic online educational tool simply can't do. It's as silly as saying we don't need teachers anymore because we have textbooks and worksheets.

Though I'm sure the profit making possibilities for companies that aren't publishers is very appealing, I can't see it making much difference. A maths sheet is still a maths sheet whether it's filled out on a piece of paper or online on a computer screen. Fun and funky maybe, but an educational revolution? I suspect not.
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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Defection rumours swirling about ahead of the LibDem conference - at least one of the "Tory 21" is the latest gossip.
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11 September 2019
Eliminate the teachers
Matthew Bennett

In September 2018, the Institute for Fiscal Studies reported that there had been an 8 per cent cut in total school funding per pupil since 2010, a figure that even special advisers at the Department for Education don’t try to dispute.
Tories won't fund what they don't use. Also, Tories don't like an educated electorate. Critical thinking and that. Education leads to thoughts not conducive for returning Tory governments.
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From Dave Hill...

London Labour MPs thought at risk of de-selection win local members’ support

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Two London Labour MPs rumoured to have been at some risk of deselection have secured strong backing from local party members in constituency ward branch “trigger” ballots.

Vicky Foxcroft, a shadow minister who represents the Lewisham Deptford constituency, wrote on Twitter of her delight at having “won the support of every branch by an overwhelming majority” while Neil Coyle for Bermondsey & Old Southwark tweeted yesterday that he has “won the support of overwhelming number of members’ branches for my re-selection” having already said he’d secured eight out of ten.
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IMO there was never a serious threat to Foxcroft.

Coyle is a different matter tho - and there weren't that many votes in it there.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Defection rumours swirling about ahead of the LibDem conference - at least one of the "Tory 21" is the latest go
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Wouldn't have seen that one coming even a year ago.
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Yep.
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It did?

Gyimah just went up in my estimation...
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Johnson to tell Juncker: ‘I won’t discuss Brexit extension beyond 31 October’
Boris Johnson will tell the outgoing European commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, on Monday that he will defy a new act of parliament and refuse to discuss or accept any offer to extend the UK’s membership even if a Brexit deal cannot be agreed, Downing Street said last night.
Nothing surprising here - he is continuing to talk himself into a corner. Part of this is the government (and most of the media) continuing with the slippery use of 'deal' - there is a Withdrawal Agreement that has been finalised and that we have agreed is finalised - that was why an extension was granted. The EU have never varied from saying that whilst they will listen to alternative plans to fulfill the function of the NI backstop, and whilst they will listen to different plans about the Political Declaration if we wish to envisage a closer future relationship than it currently sets out, there is nothing else to talk about. After the WA has been confirmed, we can start to talk about future trade.

I thought this, buried in there, was quite interesting too;
Downing Street said that David Frost was making good progress in talks with DUP leaders, which could lead to a breakthrough on the issue of the Irish border.
They are still, to all intents and purposes, negotiating with themselves.
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Priti Patel as awful as ever on Marr this morning.
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The same from me, thanks for everything you do to keep this site going.
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Hmmm, why do they think that?

(genuine question)
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To get a Brexit now, will take a constitutional crisis where the current government does something so wild that it will boggle the system. This could happen but this now seems increasingly a long shot. If the British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, does not have a fail-safe way to force exit on October 29, Brexit will not happen without an act of god, ever. France could reject an extension or an extension of an extension, the next election could see Nigel Farage as PM, but these are all unlikely turn-ups.


So the position is binary, dead Brexit or hard Brexit at the end of October. The stock market seems to be now indicating dead Brexit.
Who knows why and how stock market investors make these calls?
If they're relying on sanity being reimposed on the political system, that's a very big call indeed.
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In other news, Steve Smith is out.
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Far more importantly,super Eddie strikes again.
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gilsey wrote:
To get a Brexit now, will take a constitutional crisis where the current government does something so wild that it will boggle the system. This could happen but this now seems increasingly a long shot. If the British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, does not have a fail-safe way to force exit on October 29, Brexit will not happen without an act of god, ever. France could reject an extension or an extension of an extension, the next election could see Nigel Farage as PM, but these are all unlikely turn-ups.


So the position is binary, dead Brexit or hard Brexit at the end of October. The stock market seems to be now indicating dead Brexit.
Who knows why and how stock market investors make these calls?
If they're relying on sanity being reimposed on the political system, that's a very big call indeed.
Maybe they know (or at least have good reason to believe) something that most of us don't?
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Good evening, everyone.
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Aaron Bastani........an acquired taste.
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Willow904 wrote:https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2019/septemb ... e-teachers
‘Eliminate the teachers’
Ah, yes, "Google classroom".

Teachers are always telling me they have put things on Google classroom for my son when I contact them with concerns about difficulties he's having with homework because of his ASD. To date these resources have never proved very useful for him, despite the Senco's enthusiasm for it. He rarely looks at it unless prompted and when he does he struggles to make sense of the hotpotch of stuff teachers have put on it for him. I usually end up asking for a textbook in the end which he finds more useful but nothing really compares to teacher input and small class sizes imho.
We put stuff online to teach with all of the time but we don't just use packaged up bought in resources, we make them, although often building them around resources we have from elsewhere. (Other subjects in our place do use bought in online resources quite extensively - Maths does - but only outside of the classroom, as 'standard' homeworks to supplement classwork.

The unit I'm teaching at the moment (and anyone should feel free to ignore this, obviously) is here.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Aaron Bastani........an acquired taste.
I like what I've seen but it's not a lot, only a few talks Mr citizen has shown me.
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citizenJA wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Aaron Bastani........an acquired taste.
I like what I've seen but it's not a lot, only a few talks Mr citizen has shown me.
He can be good sometimes, yeah.
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While waiting for the bus home I recognised a guy who worked in my local Tesco. He was more drunk than I was/am so proved quite malleable when extracting information.

30 years old and still living with parents while saving for a mortgage, he even told me how much he'd saved in 10 years working for Tesco living with his parents and it wasn't a lot. Mortgage wise.

Despite working in a supermarket he said he'd never had to do his own food shopping in his life, I asked him if he even put his own clothes in the washing machine and he admitted that no, even at his age his mother collected and did his washing.

All of this seemed wrong to me and even he seemed embarrassed.

But should he have been?
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I fucking despise the Liberal Democrats, they made me a liar.

But when it comes to pragmatic politics a simple revoke message is going to appeal to a great many people.

I personally prefer Labour's second referendum vote against their deal but it requires thought. If only for a few seconds.

And that's the problem. Requiring thought.

I fear Labour are wallowing in a world where rationality is still some kind of currency.
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And I can't help but notice that under stress the Corbynista left is attacking Liberals and Scottish Nationalists rather than the fat lying shit currently masquerading as our Prime Minister, while doing their best to deselect their own MP's who don't pass the purity test.
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Sky'sGoneOut wrote:And I can't help but notice that under stress the Corbynista left is attacking Liberals and Scottish Nationalists rather than the fat lying shit currently masquerading as our Prime Minister, while doing their best to deselect their own MP's who don't pass the purity test.
Yes.. though I'm watching this...not with much optimism

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