Tuesday 17th September 2019

[refitman]

Morning all.

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... study-says" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

Housing disassociaitions.

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... at-charity" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[gilsey]

Live Blog: R (Miller) v The Prime Minister; & Cherry and others v Advocate General for Scotland

[gilsey]

There's a live stream too if anyone can bear it.

https://www.supremecourt.uk/live/court-01.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Willow904]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... study-says

Didn't David Cameron stuff up the financial viability of housing associations by passing "right to buy" legislation for social tenants, thus compromising their ability to borrow to build social homes?

[AnatolyKasparov]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... study-says

Didn't David Cameron stuff up the financial viability of housing associations by passing "right to buy" legislation for social tenants, thus compromising their ability to borrow to build social homes?

And - surprise - not that many are actually interested in buying.

[gilsey]

Is there anything Cameron didn't stuff up?

Gay marriage is all I can think of.

[PorFavor]

Good morfternoon.

. . . Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister in charge of no-deal Brexit planning, has been asked to explain to MPs differences between Operation Yellowhammer documents. As the Press Association reports, Hilary Benn, the Labour chair of the Brexit committee said the papers the committee received were called “reasonable worst case scenario”, whereas a version obtained by the Sunday Times was called “base scenario”. He urged Gove to share further documents about no-deal preparations with Parliament. (Politics Live, Guardian)

[AnatolyKasparov]

Is there anything Cameron didn't stuff up?

Gay marriage is all I can think of.

Maybe because most of the votes for that in parliament came from non-Tory parties?

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... ly-tragedy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... of-uk.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[AnatolyKasparov]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... ly-tragedy

Our free and fearless press, again.

[adam]

If anybody is in need of eight or so minutes of distraction I would thoroughly recommend this:-

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[AnatolyKasparov]

And of course that's another thing to hold against Cameron's premiership - he had the chance to push through real media reform after the phone hacking scandal broke (public opinion and even some of his own party backed it) but eschewed that opportunity in favour of short-sighted short-term partisan advantage. And paid for it personally just a few years later.

[adam]

From comments out there about Court this morning

Reverse nominative determinism. Keen isn’t and Pannick doesn’t.

[RogerOThornhill]

From AS.

Kerr goes again. But is it possible the PM could prorogue parliament again?

Keen says he is not able to answer that.

He repeats the assurance he is able to give. If the court finds that the advice of the PM to the Queen about prorogation was unlawful, “the prime minister will take the necessary steps to comply with any declaration made by it.”

Given this, I don't think that intervention this morning to refuse to rule out another prorogation was all that helpful.

[citizenJA]

Is there anything Cameron didn't stuff up?

Gay marriage is all I can think of.

If he hadn't the support of the opposition, he'd have failed that too.

[citizenJA]

Good afternoon, everyone.

[citizenJA]

Oops. Sorry AK and everyone else. I posted too soon on Cameron's single success due to opposition support. AK made the point before I did.

[adam]

EU given Brexit draft with backstop scrubbed out, UK sources admit

Boris Johnson’s Brexit negotiators have so far only presented the EU with a draft of the withdrawal agreement with the backstop scrubbed out, UK government sources have confirmed.
In a move that has caused tensions with EU leaders, Johnson’s team are refusing to put forward a written proposal to Brussels at this stage for fear it will be rejected out of hand or publicly rubbished. Instead, they want to wait until almost the last minute before the October summit before presenting a plan to the EU, with just two weeks before the UK is due to leave the bloc.

[RogerOThornhill]

A judge asks why the prorogation had to last for five weeks.

Keen says that was because it covered the party conference season. He says actually only five sitting days are being lost.

Hopefully someone will point out that (i) the party conference season is voted upon, and given where we are might not have passed and (ii) it doesn't cover the Lords.

[AnatolyKasparov]

Oh, and that parliament normally goes *into recess* over the conference season. Not the same as prorogation.

[adam]

Oh, and that parliament normally goes *into recess* over the conference season. Not the same as prorogation.

For one thing, parliament gets to vote over whether or not to go into recess.

[RogerOThornhill]

Yes, sorry I remembered what it was called after I posted!

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Anyone still following the Supreme Court?

[PorFavor]

Anyone still following the Supreme Court?

I gave up at the start when they appeared to be playing a cross between battleships and Happy Families. I think it picked up pace later on, but I wasn't listening to it "live".

[citizenJA]

...[T]he suspension of parliament means that the immigration bill making its way through Westminster has died and will need to be reintroduced in a new session. The trust is worried that there is no clarity about what the government intends to do on immigration. “It’s not reassuring for researchers right now,” he says. “For people thinking about moving their lives to another country it is an enormous decision. “The current immigration system is so bad for science that unless we get some real clarity and improvement, talented people will drift away.”

A spokesperson for the Home Office says: “We welcome international academics and recognise their contribution to the UK’s world-leading education sector.

US academic given two weeks to leave UK after eight years

Several people from various countries and fields are included in the article.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Anyone still following the Supreme Court?

I gave up at the start when they appeared to be playing a cross between battleships and Happy Families. I think it picked up pace later on, but I wasn't listening to it "live".

Yes I'm not quite sure where we ended up. Perhaps that the PM does have the right to prorogue, but as yet undecided whether he had the right this time.

Best Tweet I saw was that Lord Keen wasn't and Lord Pannick didn't.

[citizenJA]

https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... of-uk.html

...[T]he more united the media is on an issue, the more powerful its influence.

That is what happened in 2015. With few exceptions the broadcast and print media decided that the goal of economic policy was no longer economic growth (the slowest recovery for centuries) or personal prosperity (the biggest decline in real wages since WWII) but reducing the deficit. This created the view that Osborne had been more competent in handling the economy than Labour (whereas he had been the most incompetent Chancellor for decades)....

Wren-Lewis very good today

[citizenJA]

Before the arguments formally began in central London, Lady Hale, the president of the supreme court, said it was facing “serious and difficult questions”. That was evidenced, she said, “by the fact that three senior judges in Scotland have reached a different conclusion to three senior judges in England and Wales”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... e-of-power" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[citizenJA]

...[P]arliament is sovereign. For the government to use its power to evade that scrutiny overturns the basic principles of constitutional law....

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/se ... versus-law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[citizenJA]

Israeli election: exit polls suggest result too close to call

[AnatolyKasparov]

Touch wood, but maybe Bibi's luck has finally run out.......

[citizenJA]

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA