Monday 23rd September 2019

[HindleA]

Morning


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[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... le-housing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -christmas" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

May expand my wood and tobacco repertoire.

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ight-thing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[citizenJA]

Good morning, everyone.

[citizenJA]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit

only six months of healthcare coverage for retired UK peoples living in the EU
Decades of the UK being in the EU
In less than one, Tory government wreck what they can get their hands on

[HindleA]

https://labour.org.uk/press/labour-will ... onal-care/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Ambition" to extend to working age.

[RogerOThornhill]

Morning all.

There's been a whole lot of hypocrisy about Labour's plan to abolish Ofsted from those who'd previously been very vocal on doing just that (looking at you Katharine Birbalsingh) but this is good as you might expect from Sam Freedman.

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[GetYou]

After the Mail on Sunday backed down (perhaps in face of a legal challenge?), I present Scum II

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/statu ... 1369031680

In 2013, when I was not a public figure, I gave an interview to a local newspaper about my plans to restore a local heritage asset. @JuliaHB1 has now issued an open invitation to those sending me death threats to come and find me and my three young children at that isolated spot.

[HindleA]

Concerns over workers/union/State control trumping independence,still very much retain.For emancipation power needs to be wrested,whether private/public provision.

[HindleA]

"choice"isn't dirty but fundamental.

[AnatolyKasparov]

After the Mail on Sunday backed down (perhaps in face of a legal challenge?), I present Scum II

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/statu ... 1369031680

In 2013, when I was not a public figure, I gave an interview to a local newspaper about my plans to restore a local heritage asset. @JuliaHB1 has now issued an open invitation to those sending me death threats to come and find me and my three young children at that isolated spot.

People have been excluded from Twitter for less, though as ever it is different for blue ticks it appears.

[PorFavor]

Well, at least we've got John McDonnell. Thank God.

[AnatolyKasparov]

Four day week - excellent thing to work towards.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Yes he seems to have gone down well.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Prorogation ruling due tomorrow

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -use-in-uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[PorFavor]

Heather Stewart
✔
@GuardianHeather

Labour remain activists caught by surprise at the number of speakers in conference hall this afternoon urging colleagues to back Jeremy Corbyn.
They fear despite the support of Unison and Usdaw, they may be on course to lose tonight.
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4:31 PM - Sep 23, 2019 (Politics Live, Guardian)

[gilsey]

Sam Coates Sky
@SamCoatesSky
NEW - Boris Johnson speaks to
@SkyNews
in New York

He has a new line on entrepreneur Jennifer Arcuri - a form of denial

"I can tell you absolutely that everything was done with complete propriety and in the normal way."

edited to include the link, replies are funny.
They shouldn't be, it should be serious.

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[gilsey]

Paul Dickinson, Esq.
@PaulDic69
Replying to
@SamCoatesSky
and
@SkyNews
He kept one foot on the floor and said thank you afterwards

[AnatolyKasparov]

The "moderate" motion on Brexit was carried, despite the NEC member announcing the result initially mis-speaking.

[PorFavor]

Corbyn defeats grassroots motion for out-and-out remain campaign

Brighton conference delegates reject call for clear anti-Brexit campaign ahead of next general election
(Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... or-out-and

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Twitter is quite astonishing really.

Folk who have literally spent the last three years shouting at Corbyn to hold a Peoples Vote now shrieking betrayal.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

I mean of course it's worth discussing whether this is the right course, but it surely isn't absurd?

[AnatolyKasparov]

What they want is Brexit turned into a full on culture war with one side crushing the other.

I might not be *quite* so unhappy at that if I didn't think Johnson/Cummings are better placed to win such a thing.

But, in all likelihood, they are.

(oh, and what happens if we do leave at the end of next month - with a deal or not?)

[PaulfromYorkshire]

What is almost certain IMHO is that on 1 November we won't be sure whether we've left or not.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Guardian somewhat grudging but nevertheless agreeing with Corbyn

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[citizenJA]

I mean of course it's worth discussing whether this is the right course, but it surely isn't absurd?

No, it's not absurd, Paul.

[citizenJA]

I don't think Labour could do better regarding Brexit given the circumstances

[PorFavor]

Keir Starmer said, "“A referendum in which remain should, and will, be on the ballot paper, along with the best leave deal that can be secured. We owe it to those who want to leave to secure that leave deal and put it to them in a referendum."

It seems a fair competition.

[adam]

What is almost certain IMHO is that on 1 November we won't be sure whether we've left or not.

I'm not sure about that. I very very strongly suspect that we will get a lot of 'I see the sky hasn't fallen' comments whilst the EU's imposed-for-its-own-benefit-without-reference-to-us transitions take effect, but I do think that either there is a formal extension or we cease to be members at 11pm (midnight Central European TIme, the final insult) on 31st October. If they fudge some kind of last minute extension, we will know.

[citizenJA]

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

[RogerOThornhill]

Interesting - the Mail front page tomorrow is showing that they're not ready to give up on the story about the PM and his friend.

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