Monday 30th September 2019

A home from home
Forum rules
Welcome to FTN. New posters are welcome to join the conversation. You can follow us on Twitter @FlythenestHaven You are responsible for the content you post. This is a public forum. Treat it as if you are speaking in a crowded room. Site admin and Moderators are volunteers who will respond as quickly as they are able to when made aware of any complaints. Please do not post copyrighted material without the original authors permission.
Locked
User avatar
refitman
Site Admin
Posts: 7773
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 7:22 pm
Location: Wombwell, United Kingdom

Monday 30th September 2019

Post by refitman »

Morning all.
User avatar
RogerOThornhill
Prime Minister
Posts: 11122
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 10:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by RogerOThornhill »

Dave Hill's just highlighted this...

" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It will come as no surprise to learn that the writer of the article in question was one Andrew Gilligan...and Hill said "not the first of that variety to carry his by-line"...
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
User avatar
RogerOThornhill
Prime Minister
Posts: 11122
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 10:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by RogerOThornhill »

Another climbdown and this one is wonderful on so many levels...

Toby Young issues late-night apology after Philip Hammond threatens to sue him

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... t-20332967
Mr Young, however, not only said the theory [re backers of Boris Johnson taking short positions on Brexit] was untrue but went a large step further.

In a now-deleted tweet, he described it as "Hammond's disgusting anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: Boris is being manipulated by a secret cabal of city financiers who stand to profit from economic ruin."

Mr Hammond's original article on Saturday did not mention Jews or Judaism.

The former Chancellor hit back sharply, saying: "This is self-evidently absurd.

"But it is also defamatory. I will be taking legal advice tomorrow morning. I shall make no further comment."
and
Mr Young then deleted his tweet and apologised to the former Tory MP.

He wrote: "Apologies Philip.

"The suggestion that “speculators” are controlling the govt could be construed as an anti-Semitic trope if “speculators” is being used as a euphemism for Jewish financiers, as it sometimes is.

"But you evidently didn’t mean that and I’ve deleted the tweet."
:clap:
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
PorFavor
Prime Minister
Posts: 15167
Joined: Tue 26 Aug, 2014 12:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by PorFavor »

Good morfternoon.
Raphael Hogarth @Raphael_Hogarth
Replying to @Raphael_Hogarth

Route 4 (ht @JolyonMaugham): use an Order in Council, but under Part 2 of the Civil Contingencies Act, which allows the Government to suspend Acts of Parliament to deal with an emergency. Unlawful, because this isn't an emergency. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Frighteningly, I'm convinced that it's not beyond Boris Johnson to engineer an "emergency", whatever the risks to the population. We're not dealing with "normal" here.
User avatar
RogerOThornhill
Prime Minister
Posts: 11122
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 10:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by RogerOThornhill »

And the day gets better and better...from AS
Boris Johnson’s long-standing allies have accused him of shutting them out to only listen to Leave campaign guru Dominic Cummings and Carrie Symonds, Johnson’s partner, the Sun’s Tom Newton Dunn is reporting this morning. Newton Dunn says Lynton Crosby, the Tory election strategist, and Will Walden, Johnson’s communications chief when he was London mayor, feel marginalised. Newton Dunn writes:

One former close ally of the PM’s told the Sun: “The Cummings experiment has palpably failed, but Boris will not turn the ship.

“He’s only listening to two voices now, Dominic and Carrie - and Dominic’s approach is proving a car crash. We’re getting really worried”.

Having played a key part in Boris’s leadership campaign, it has also emerged that Mr Walden refused to take up a senior role in No10 after feeling marginalised, and has returned to his job in PR.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
User avatar
citizenJA
Prime Minister
Posts: 20648
Joined: Thu 11 Sep, 2014 12:22 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by citizenJA »

Good morning, everyone.
PorFavor
Prime Minister
Posts: 15167
Joined: Tue 26 Aug, 2014 12:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by PorFavor »

BBC News has just broadcast a clip of Boris Johnson responding to a question about whether he squeezed Charlotte Edwardes’ thigh at a Spectator lunch 20 years ago with a long and rambling reply about his plans to improve bus services. (Politics Live, Guardian)
[youtube]U3EXAiImJZI[/youtube]

Complete with what could be a photo' of Boris Johnson as a child.
User avatar
citizenJA
Prime Minister
Posts: 20648
Joined: Thu 11 Sep, 2014 12:22 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by citizenJA »

Mike Thompson, chief executive British Pharmaceutical Association....

“There has been an enormous focus on what’s going on. Politics is getting in the way,” he told a fringe event at the Tory conference. "The NHS in a post Brexit world

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... b0c171e038" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Is this normal? This person in his position at a Tory fringe event? Read his entire contribution. He criticises the EU over Tory failure at his Tory conference fringe event.
HindleA
Prime Minister
Posts: 27400
Joined: Tue 26 Aug, 2014 12:40 am
Location: Three quarters way to hell

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by HindleA »

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/ ... dan-walker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
User avatar
citizenJA
Prime Minister
Posts: 20648
Joined: Thu 11 Sep, 2014 12:22 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by citizenJA »

UK pharmacies have been forced to swap meds. UK manufactured over properly formulated and stabilised meds made and/or distributed from the EU.

edited to add
UK GPs, consultants and pharmacists prescribe and fill specific formulations of meds not always manufactured in the UK
PorFavor
Prime Minister
Posts: 15167
Joined: Tue 26 Aug, 2014 12:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by PorFavor »

Boris Johnson will be dismissed by Queen if he tried to ignore court order to implement Benn Act, says Grieve (Politics Live, Guardian)
Oh, what a glorious, fairytale ending that would be!

Edited to add -

I'd die laughing. What a way to go!
AnatolyKasparov
Prime Minister
Posts: 15689
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 9:26 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by AnatolyKasparov »

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
Raphael Hogarth @Raphael_Hogarth
Replying to @Raphael_Hogarth

Route 4 (ht @JolyonMaugham): use an Order in Council, but under Part 2 of the Civil Contingencies Act, which allows the Government to suspend Acts of Parliament to deal with an emergency. Unlawful, because this isn't an emergency. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Frighteningly, I'm convinced that it's not beyond Boris Johnson to engineer an "emergency", whatever the risks to the population. We're not dealing with "normal" here.
I genuinely don't think he would have enough support (even in his own party) to do that.
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
PorFavor
Prime Minister
Posts: 15167
Joined: Tue 26 Aug, 2014 12:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by PorFavor »

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
Raphael Hogarth @Raphael_Hogarth
Replying to @Raphael_Hogarth

Route 4 (ht @JolyonMaugham): use an Order in Council, but under Part 2 of the Civil Contingencies Act, which allows the Government to suspend Acts of Parliament to deal with an emergency. Unlawful, because this isn't an emergency. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Frighteningly, I'm convinced that it's not beyond Boris Johnson to engineer an "emergency", whatever the risks to the population. We're not dealing with "normal" here.
I genuinely don't think he would have enough support (even in his own party) to do that.

I genuinely don't think that he'd much care.
AnatolyKasparov
Prime Minister
Posts: 15689
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 9:26 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by AnatolyKasparov »

How much more support can he afford to lose, though?
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
User avatar
RogerOThornhill
Prime Minister
Posts: 11122
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 10:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by RogerOThornhill »

Isabel Hardman

Verified account

@IsabelHardman
5h5 hours ago
More
Esther McVey is telling Tory conference about “3D architects” who are “doing it on a computer”. I don’t know much about the process of designing buildings but I thought that was quite normal, especially the 3D element
:lol:

Never let it be said that Tories are behind the times...
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
PorFavor
Prime Minister
Posts: 15167
Joined: Tue 26 Aug, 2014 12:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by PorFavor »

I just switched on Sky TV news. And it's an interview with . . . Staaanley Johnson! I'm afraid I can't tell you any more because I switched it off.
AnatolyKasparov
Prime Minister
Posts: 15689
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 9:26 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by AnatolyKasparov »

Let me guess........he agrees with Boris?
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
PorFavor
Prime Minister
Posts: 15167
Joined: Tue 26 Aug, 2014 12:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by PorFavor »

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Let me guess........he agrees with Boris?
I expect so!
gilsey
Prime Minister
Posts: 6188
Joined: Thu 28 Aug, 2014 10:51 am

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by gilsey »

Nick Robinson interviewing Saj this am. Standing up for JC, whatever next.
Your plan for buses involves spending just £30m. That will make just a dent on the spending lost over the last decade.

Javid says the total spending being announced is worth £220m.

He says, outside London, buses are the main public transport people rely on. Politicians have not paid enough attention to them. He wants contactless payment and joined-up services.

Q: When Jeremy Corbyn raised it at PMQs, Tory MPs laughed. Does he deserve an apology?
Saj 'can't remember the context'.
One world, like it or not - John Martyn
PorFavor
Prime Minister
Posts: 15167
Joined: Tue 26 Aug, 2014 12:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by PorFavor »

gilsey wrote:Nick Robinson interviewing Saj this am. Standing up for JC, whatever next.
Your plan for buses involves spending just £30m. That will make just a dent on the spending lost over the last decade.

Javid says the total spending being announced is worth £220m.

He says, outside London, buses are the main public transport people rely on. Politicians have not paid enough attention to them. He wants contactless payment and joined-up services.

Q: When Jeremy Corbyn raised it at PMQs, Tory MPs laughed. Does he deserve an apology?
Saj 'can't remember the context'.
I wonder if, just by chance, it could have been transport. I'm guessing wildly, here . . .
AnatolyKasparov
Prime Minister
Posts: 15689
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 9:26 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by AnatolyKasparov »

It wasn't just Javid - "he's talking about BUSES??!!??!" was the reaction of all too many political hacks.
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
User avatar
RogerOThornhill
Prime Minister
Posts: 11122
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 10:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by RogerOThornhill »

Excellent news.
Laura Kuenssberg

Verified account

@bbclaurak
29m29 minutes ago
More
Tony Hall has overturned the decision about Naga Munchetty - he's looked personally at the decision and says her words did not merit a complaint being upheld against her
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
PaulfromYorkshire
Site Admin
Posts: 8331
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 7:27 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by PaulfromYorkshire »

That's my buses policy ;-)
User avatar
tinyclanger2
Prime Minister
Posts: 9711
Joined: Thu 18 Sep, 2014 9:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by tinyclanger2 »

Guess what?
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
User avatar
tinyclanger2
Prime Minister
Posts: 9711
Joined: Thu 18 Sep, 2014 9:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by tinyclanger2 »

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
rrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Last edited by tinyclanger2 on Mon 30 Sep, 2019 8:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
User avatar
tinyclanger2
Prime Minister
Posts: 9711
Joined: Thu 18 Sep, 2014 9:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by tinyclanger2 »

(In general)
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
User avatar
citizenJA
Prime Minister
Posts: 20648
Joined: Thu 11 Sep, 2014 12:22 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by citizenJA »

tinyclanger2 wrote:Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
rrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
same here
HindleA
Prime Minister
Posts: 27400
Joined: Tue 26 Aug, 2014 12:40 am
Location: Three quarters way to hell

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by HindleA »

Tarquin's behaviour improving,he only had one night in the cells.Age may be lessing his debauchery,or political response to the Tories as he would claim.
User avatar
tinyclanger2
Prime Minister
Posts: 9711
Joined: Thu 18 Sep, 2014 9:18 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by tinyclanger2 »

I wish the same could be said for me
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
PaulfromYorkshire
Site Admin
Posts: 8331
Joined: Mon 25 Aug, 2014 7:27 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by PaulfromYorkshire »

Important thread from Keir Starmer

" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
User avatar
citizenJA
Prime Minister
Posts: 20648
Joined: Thu 11 Sep, 2014 12:22 pm

Re: Monday 30th September 2019

Post by citizenJA »

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA
Locked