Monday 7th October 2019

[refitman]

Morning all.

[RogerOThornhill]

Morning all.

"Steve Analyst" has been busy...well worth reading.

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[AnatolyKasparov]

Morning all.

"Steve Analyst" has been busy...well worth reading.

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Some of that 1970s stuff is strangely familiar.....

[Willow904]

People's lives shouldn't be collateral damage.

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‘Ready for what? It is completely unknown’ – Brexit and the Border
South Armagh people unsure of impact on them if UK crashes out of EU

[AnatolyKasparov]

PF hasn't posted much since their news last week - hope they are OK.

[citizenJA]

PF hasn't posted much since their news last week - hope they are OK.

I've noted it as well. I'm not overly concerned yet.
Wake up, Constance! Sound off with an update, please.

[citizenJA]

Good afternoon, everyone.

[AnatolyKasparov]

At least you are here, stayed in bed after your late night posting did you?

[citizenJA]

Morning all.

"Steve Analyst" has been busy...well worth reading.

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HC Deb 22 April 1975
REFERENDUM BILL

Sir Peter Emery (Con MP East Devon)
The question arises whether it would have been sensible for the clause to have made it clear that this is to be an advisory referendum. No Government can bind the House of Commons to the outcome of a referendum just by a statement by the Prime Minister. The powers of the House of Commons will indeed be undermined if we ever reach the stage when it is believed that Parliament can be bound by a statement by the Prime Minister which has no formal backing.

The Chairman
Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman that he is not free to discuss amendments which were not selected.

Mr. Emery
I am not discussing any amendment. I am discussing the overall principle of the clause, which certain amendments might have touched, and the question whether the advisory element is important. It is imperative for hon. Members to realise the situation that the House of Commons will be in if less than a majority of the electorate vote and if by only the smallest majority a decision is carried by the Government against the present wishes of the House of Commons.

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[citizenJA]

At least you are here, stayed in bed after your late night posting did you?

I was up before 10 AM. There's always work to do, you know? The house and it's contents don't clean themselves even with the help of appliances. I'm discussing housework. When I was younger, I would've been horrified. I like myself now. What I used to think important isn't.

[citizenJA]

Morning all.

"Steve Analyst" has been busy...well worth reading.

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Some of that 1970s stuff is strangely familiar.....

I've just spent over two hours straight reading Hansard finding the context of Steve Analyst's historical links.

[tinyclanger2]

Evening

[tinyclanger2]

(just an observation)

[citizenJA]

PorFavor & tinyclanger2 are here!
I'm glad to see you both.

[tinyclanger2]

Hello!

[citizenJA]

Boris Johnson looks unhealthy.

[HindleA]

Now got my hour back that was stolen by Brussels.

[AnatolyKasparov]

Boris Johnson looks unhealthy.

Has done for a decade or two, tbf.

I have little doubt he leads what used to euphemistically be described as a "dissolute" lifestyle.

[adam]

Leaked Brexit planning memo offers no new guidance for departing EU

The “not for publication” document was sent on 26 September to council leaders and the heads of 38 local resilience forums, which are supposed to help communities prepare for the fallout from a no-deal Brexit. But the lack of detail has left many planners exasperated and fearing the government does not want to tell LRFs its main concerns, for fear they may stoke public concern about the effects of leaving the EU without a deal. At a point when the government needed to be straight about the potential problems, it was hunkering down and keeping secrets, said a senior source.

Shocked etc...

So...

• We've been told exactly what the EU's problems with our new proposals are (as though we didn't know anyway) but insist that we don't understand what the problem is
  We're failing to plan whilst insisting that we are actively planning to be ready
  We're not moving in any way any closer to any kind of a deal whilst insisting that we are
  We've specifically held up planning for emergency medical supplies to elect a new tory leader (and that one is May's rather than Johnson's).

[citizenJA]

Boris Johnson looks unhealthy.

Has done for a decade or two, tbf.

I have little doubt he leads what used to euphemistically be described as a "dissolute" lifestyle.

It shows. It's unwholesome. I don't mean to belittle him criticising his looks. He wants to burn himself into to the ground that's his choice but he's incapable of responsible leadership. Recent images of Corbyn reveal some strain but he's hasn't burned out his vitality. He's a healthier and stronger person than Johnson.

[citizenJA]

Now got my hour back that was stolen by Brussels.

[RogerOThornhill]

Just got back from a wonderful rendition of Cage's Sonatas and Interludes for prepared piano and see another one joining the LibDems.

Tom Watson MP
‏@TomWatson_LDL
25m25 minutes ago
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Every bastard time I'm about to announce my defection to the Lib Dems to cause maximum damage to Labour & humiliate Corbyn, a Tory rushes in & steals my thunder.

Bloody hell, I'm stuck with Hodge for another week now. Fuck you, Heidi Allen, fuck you!

[citizenJA]

Leaked Brexit planning memo offers no new guidance for departing EU

The “not for publication” document was sent on 26 September to council leaders and the heads of 38 local resilience forums, which are supposed to help communities prepare for the fallout from a no-deal Brexit. But the lack of detail has left many planners exasperated and fearing the government does not want to tell LRFs its main concerns, for fear they may stoke public concern about the effects of leaving the EU without a deal. At a point when the government needed to be straight about the potential problems, it was hunkering down and keeping secrets, said a senior source.

Shocked etc...

So...

• We've been told exactly what the EU's problems with our new proposals are (as though we didn't know anyway) but insist that we don't understand what the problem is
  We're failing to plan whilst insisting that we are actively planning to be ready
  We're not moving in any way any closer to any kind of a deal whilst insisting that we are
  We've specifically held up planning for emergency medical supplies to elect a new tory leader (and that one is May's rather than Johnson's).

Johnson and his Tory party's problems are our problems, an inadequate and unfit PM leading remnants of an incompetent government.

[citizenJA]

‘Shifting to the extremes, the Conservatives and Labour have turned their backs on the liberal, progressive centre ground our country is crying out for.'

Heidi Allen MP defects to Liberal Democrats
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this from someone elected a Tory MP in 2015

[HindleA]

Beyond satire,for all my disquite and complaints about Labour,largely on lack of progressive thought,the difference is roughly a century.

[citizenJA]

"Shifting to save my career, I'll bounce from party to party and tell lies about Labour..."

[citizenJA]

Did Allen read Labour's 2015 and 2017 manifestos? Did she read her Tory party manifestos?

[HindleA]

My view of progressive,I should say.

[citizenJA]

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA