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Wednesday 16th October 2019

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Morning all.
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Good morning, everyone.
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Re: Wednesday 16th October 2019

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Barclay's told the ExEU committee that Johnson will request an extension if there's no deal agreed.

Asked (Crabb): if there was a deal agreed, would they request a 'technical extension' to deal with the legalities? Answer: no, it's very important that we leave 31/10.

Won't answer questions about the border.

Farce.
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gilsey wrote:Barclay's told the ExEU committee that Johnson will request an extension if there's no deal agreed.

Asked (Crabb): if there was a deal agreed, would they request a 'technical extension' to deal with the legalities? Answer: no, it's very important that we leave 31/10.

Won't answer questions about the border.

Farce.
I'm increasingly bothered by the lack of critical analysis of this disaster. Where are we going?
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gilsey wrote:Barclay's told the ExEU committee that Johnson will request an extension if there's no deal agreed.

Asked (Crabb): if there was a deal agreed, would they request a 'technical extension' to deal with the legalities? Answer: no, it's very important that we leave 31/10.

Won't answer questions about the border.

Farce.
Even less incentive for undecided MPs to back any deal, then.
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Re: Wednesday 16th October 2019

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...the plan (the full details of which have yet to be revealed)...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 62358ff098" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
referring to Johnson's 'deal'
The opacity of these proceedings are discouraging.
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Re: Wednesday 16th October 2019

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I agree JA it seems like the journos have just given up!

All the more reason for us to discuss here.....
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Now reported that the opposition might vote against the planned Saturday sitting for parliament. Though there isn't much point anyway if Johnson doesn't have a deal?
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No-one knows what on earth is happening.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I agree JA it seems like the journos have just given up!

All the more reason for us to discuss here.....
I'd love to discuss what's going on.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Now reported that the opposition might vote against the planned Saturday sitting for parliament. Though there isn't much point anyway if Johnson doesn't have a deal?
(cJA bold)
He's blown it then. He's got to ask for an extension. What's the pussyfooting around?
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It seems that number 10 have simply stopped briefing, either officially or through trusted sources.

Given the absolute state of our media, that means LauraK and the rest have nothing to report.

God forbid they would actually do any investigation....
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Indeed this is quite an interesting new thread, in which LauraK doesn't have a clue what's happening :lol:

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:It seems that number 10 have simply stopped briefing, either officially or through trusted sources.

Given the absolute state of our media, that means LauraK and the rest have nothing to report.

God forbid they would actually do any investigation....
This is outrageous
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The growing reliance on anonymous briefings allows Downing Street to push narratives without having to take responsibility for them. Rasmus Nielsen, director of the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism, has said that British journalists are being “played like an instrument” when they publish stories based on government leaks and anonymous sources. There is also no way for proper public scrutiny to be placed on such a source.

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No kidding
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Peston is if anything even more "hilarious" in this regard than Laura K.
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downbeat has two definitions
- pessimistic or gloomy
- relaxed and understated

I guess Peston meant pessimistic?
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However Geoffrey Cox is apparently "upbeat" .
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:However Geoffrey Cox is apparently "upbeat" .
Did he say that in his "booming" Brian Blessed style voice?
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Re: Wednesday 16th October 2019

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PM's Brexit status report suggests that we are at a "slithery lap" , confusingly (7,4).
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Hint

He also said the summit was shrouded in mist :roll:
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Re: Wednesday 16th October 2019

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In the absence of any clear briefings or announcements, the battle for the narrative is continuing on Twitter...

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Re: Wednesday 16th October 2019

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Goodnight, everyone.
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Re: Wednesday 16th October 2019

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Evening all. Busy day today - library and then straight out again to Governing Body meeting.

I guess from the above there are things going on but nobody knows what.
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Oh my - just seen the letter that Trump sent to the president of Turkey.

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Not sure whether it rates a :roll: , a :lol: , or a :shock:
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:PM's Brexit status report suggests that we are at a "slithery lap" , confusingly (7,4).
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Re: Wednesday 16th October 2019

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This is happening.
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Re: Wednesday 16th October 2019

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RogerOThornhill wrote:Oh my - just seen the letter that Trump sent to the president of Turkey.

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Not sure whether it rates a :roll: , a :lol: , or a :shock:
The only good thing about Trump is the constant reminder that the US is even more f***ed than the UK.
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Re: Wednesday 16th October 2019

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Brexshitter Bernard Jenkin: "Can I just correct you...blah blah blah...we've just heard Gavin Esler..."

Emma Barnett: "That wasn't Gavin Esler and he doesn't work here any more. That was Mark Urban."

The sooner the ERG metaphorically dies in a ditch the better.

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