FlyTheNest

Morning all.

Not sure that France apparently dictating UK must have a general election in order to have time to ratify crappy Brexit deal is going to help attitudes to EU.

Good morning, everyone.

tinyclanger2 wrote:Not sure that France apparently dictating UK must have a general election in order to have time to ratify crappy Brexit deal is going to help attitudes to EU.

Macron is talking to his electorate, I think.

Macron is a diacritic.

Getting my days mixed up thought it was Saturday and looking forward to the rugby.Bloody Tories (always to blame)

SNP are saying the same thing as Labour - get no deal gone and then an election.

Anyone know why Benn et al picked 31 Jan?
Everyone now saying can't have an election in Dec/Jan because winter/Christmas, they could have taken that into account, surely?
Could have been designed to give Macron another opportunity for grandstanding.

Good morfternoon.

If there were a December election, I'm guessing that, owing to the unavailability of school venues for polling stations, there would likely be more obscurely located and unfamiliar, less accessible, and fewer, polling stations.

I'm not a fan of postal voting - but Labour needs to get this angle sorted pronto. Just in case.

This is why 12 December is the last practical date this year.

Personally though I think an election in January would be better, and that can hopefully be arranged.

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

If there were a December election, I'm guessing that, owing to the unavailability of school venues for polling stations, there would likely be more obscurely located and unfamiliar, less accessible, and fewer polling stations.

I'm not a fan of postal voting - but Labour needs to get this angle sorted pronto. Just in case.

Good morfternoon PF, good to 'see' you.


Ian Blackford was moaning about short daylight hours in Scotland but I wouldn't think low turnout was any threat to the SNP.


January election means announcing it before Christmas and campaigning over the holiday, would go down like a bucket of cold sick. IMO.

Well of course there would be an informal break over the holiday period, just as there has been for Easter in past campaigns. Personally I find the idea of people getting together over Xmas and discussing politics when there is actually something at stake an........intriguing one.

(and I sneakily suspect it might not work out well for the Tories who are relying heavily on the "TINA" factor to win)

Given that not insubstantial amounts of people cannot get to a polling station ,before you get to the fact there is no guarantee of actually getting in ,a postal vote is the only way to independently exercise a fundamental right.Until another way is offered I will maintain my habit in solidarity.

Particularly given the Tories attempt at further denial,deliberately targeted

HindleA wrote:Particularly given the Tories attempt at further denial,deliberately targeted

On that, if they wanted councils to be responsible for issuing photo ID for those that don't have a valid passport or photo driving licence, there's no way they'll do it in time for this election.

I'm not great in public situations/officialdom/questioning,I forget my name ,that sort of thing.I'm happier with postal tbh.

I may have had visions of detainment on repeated gaming to get passed the passport face recognition thing in Brussels.

HindleA wrote:I'm not great in public situations/officialdom/questioning,I forget my name ,that sort of thing.I'm happier with postal tbh.

Captain Paranoia on your shoulder, whispering in your ear 'They think you did it'.

I don't know whether anyone else here has come across Intrastat, it was the bane of my life at one time. Now this. How's that 'getting rid of red tape' going?

Dr Anna Jerzewska
@AnnaJerzewska
Important development - UK businesses asked to continue providing Intrastat reports after #Brexit.
Intrastat decs are what you currently need to provide for EU trade INSTEAD of import/export decs. Now seems like both needed
#customs

Smashing.

Whatever it was/is I'm guilty.

I always think there's nothing like having a consistent message from government....and this etc.

Boris Johnson has refused to say that the UK will not leave the EU on 31 October, saying we are still waiting on the extension decision from the EU. “As things stand we can leave on October 31st,” he said. (The chancellor said this morning that the UK couldn’t leave on 31 October.) He said Jeremy Corbyn should “man up” and support an election.

Johnson saying that vindicates the other parties (not just Labour) in saying no election will be considered until no deal is irrevocably off the table.

The fake news to beat all fake news will be Johnson saying on 1 November that we have in fact Brexited.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:The fake news to beat all fake news will be Johnson saying on 1 November that we have in fact Brexited.

From the steps of the European Commission, having just appointed our new Commissioner. In French. With German subtitles.

Apparently the Heil have fired Peter Oborne!

adam wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:The fake news to beat all fake news will be Johnson saying on 1 November that we have in fact Brexited.

From the steps of the European Commission, having just appointed our new Commissioner. In French. With German subtitles.

katya adler
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Why is EU stalling on announcing the new #Brexit extension? EU leaders really really REALLY do not like the UK focus on the extension length. Gov and opposition saying they’ll take political action eg going for general elex DEPENDING on EU timetable. /1


Meaning EU extension decision will be understood through UK political prism and “blamed” accordingly. That’s why EU now says will wait till Parliament votes on whether to hold election and only then will announce extension. So: EU reacts to UK rather than the other way round..

Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggghhh

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gilsey wrote:

katya adler
@BBCkatyaadler
Why is EU stalling on announcing the new #Brexit extension? EU leaders really really REALLY do not like the UK focus on the extension length. Gov and opposition saying they’ll take political action eg going for general elex DEPENDING on EU timetable. /1


Meaning EU extension decision will be understood through UK political prism and “blamed” accordingly. That’s why EU now says will wait till Parliament votes on whether to hold election and only then will announce extension. So: EU reacts to UK rather than the other way round..

Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggghhh

So if Johnson wants a general election, all he has to do is make a binding promise to parliament that we will not be leaving the EU without a withdrawal agreement this side of an election, that he is seeking an extension until x date to facilitate this and that although the EU will not formalise this until we've taken action to move forwards, we are taking action to move forwards in this clearly understood and binding-upon-us context. (Bearing in mind the fact that it's not for us to decide about the extension, but at the same time not wanting this to get too complicated).

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Apparently the Heil have fired Peter Oborne!

I do suspect somehow that won't come as a total surprise to him.

On the subject of the Mail - how is Geordie Greig's new look caring moderate PRO-EUROPEAN revamp going??

Oborne says he wasn't sacked but will no longer be writing his weekly column,

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There has been a long running protest about auxillary staff working conditions etc at senate House in London. So this comes as good new.

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After more than 2 years of negotiation and continued scrutiny of the University of London’s plans, we have received written confirmation from the University of its plans to return cleaners and security staff back to its direct employment.

Estates management next please. Outsourcing of staff has had its day.

I note there wasn't a QT review from Sky this time - was it really that bad?

AnatolyKasparov wrote:I note there wasn't a QT review from Sky this time - was it really that bad?

Kate Andrews.

'nuff said.

Have we had this? Lol

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We've had OpenReach in the area doing...something...which involves putting wiring under pavements in the past week.

Now, I've had a really irritating issue for a while with my PC screen going black for 2-3 seconds when the broadband connection has been shite (technical term).

This has now seemingly vanished - two clear days with not one single instance.

How odd.

WTF happened tonight in the football???

I know I nipped to the pub to watch a bit of the match. 20 minutes in and Leicester were already 3 up with Southampton down to 10 men. All a bit game over.

Leicester looking like challengers it has to be said.