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PostPosted: Tue 05 Nov, 2019 2:08 pm 
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MPs who do a 'chicken run' to different seats lose the right to winding-up payments if they lose


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It does have some of the hallmarks of a Johnson style distraction though, so let's not!


But such "distractions" aren't supposed to be so harmful in themselves......


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Nov, 2019 2:25 pm 
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BBC news was 'fact-checking' Corbyn's Brexit in 6 months claim earlier.

He* was talking about difficulties in getting legislation through the Commons.
AFAICS the only legislation involved is the actual Bill for a referendum, which if he's got enough support to be PM should pass easily.
A new WAB would be drafted but surely wouldn't come to the House unless we voted for it, in which case it would be TWOTP.
Seemed to me he was scraping the bottom of the barrel.

*Chris Morris.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Nov, 2019 4:50 pm 
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Not that much of a surprise - don't think he's enjoying this version of the Tory Party.

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And history might have been a little different if the Tories had won a majority in 2010 and he'd taken his place as Chief Secretary to the Treasury instead of Laws.

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dark at four o'clock this afternoon


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RogerOThornhill wrote:
Not that much of a surprise - don't think he's enjoying this version of the Tory Party.

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And history might have been a little different if the Tories had won a majority in 2010 and he'd taken his place as Chief Secretary to the Treasury instead of Laws.


Liam Byrne of course intended "that note" to be for him.


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Priti Patel trolling Labour again I see...

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Yesterday John Woodcock, the Labour-turned-independent MP, announced that he was standing down from parliament. Today Priti Patel, the home secretary, has appointed him as UK special envoy for countering violent extremism.

Woodcock, like his fellow former Labour MP John Mann, who was appointed independent adviser on antisemitism by Theresa May, has been highly critical of Jeremy Corbyn, particularly over antisemitism.


Experience in this field? None that I can see but that's not what's important here.

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I see Johnson has reneged on something he said he'd do.

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Liam Byrne of course intended "that note" to be for him.


Indeed - I would imagine if Liam Byrne had known it was going to be Laws he wouldn't have written it.

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Is that the same John Woodcock who is openly a big fan of the Turkish government?


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JRM - Phew, think I might have just about got away with it...

Andrew Bridgen - Hang on, I just want to have my say...

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...Johnson has a tricky job selling his plan while also trying to insulate it from scrutiny. There is a flaw in the strategy that makes Brexit the central issue, while running on a platform that appeals to public weariness with the topic. That problem feeds back into the incumbency issue. There is something dissonant in a campaign that says vote for me so we can end this nightmare that I told you would be brilliant; vote for the Tories to move on from the only thing Tories seem to care about.
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With a sustained display of incompetence, cowardice, delusion and ideological mania, British politics has created a situation so monstrous and writhing with venom that the public cannot bear to look at it.
Is that true? That people can't bear to look? Have people been honestly informed about the monstrous?


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Tories unrepentant over misleadingly edited Keir Starmer TV footage
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It wasn't my intention posting this after asking if people were being given accurate information to make any point. The Tory party must be held responsible for their unacceptable tactics. Their editing is deliberately misleading and creates something wholly false.

edited trying to phrase it better


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The article I've linked above suggests calling attention to misleading footage and the subsequent attention paid to it may paradoxically help those having done the misleading. I don't know if I agree with that. I doubt most people don't think falsifying film footage is acceptable.


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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/busi ... 86386.html
Brexit 'could mean border checks between England, Scotland and Wales'

Hilarious. Still at least the Fishpointer General is a decent fellow who'd never run away from some massive cockup he'd single handedly managed to foist on four nations.

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Are the Tories going let the LibDems take over some of their seats in order to form a coalition with them?


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Having a touch of the (at this point imaginary) deja vus

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tinyclanger2 wrote:
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I see a great big problem I hadn't thought of before now. I thought LibDem policy on Brexit would've made any part of a coalition with Tories unthinkable. I've gotten used to LibDems not voting with Tory government on a regular basis.


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I wouldn't listen to me to be honest. I may be over gloomy.

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I wouldn't listen to me to be honest. I may be over gloomy.

(I never do)

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Having a touch of the (at this point imaginary) deja vus
You help me understand what's going on. Your contributions here are important.


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I wouldn't listen to me to be honest. I may be over gloomy.
I understand that. Sometimes reality is uncomfortable and won't make me happy but it's best I know. Magical thinking won't serve or save me.


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Oh how I love living next door to a public park on November the 5'th.

The sheer joy of listening to continuous explosions for 5 hours straight. And now I've got the police helicopter hovering overhead adding it's droning charm to this evening's aural delights.

Maybe they're having another firework gang war out there like last year, or setting fire to bins in the middle of the road again then attacking the firemen like the year before.

Isn't bonfire night splendid?


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citizenJA wrote:
I thought LibDem policy on Brexit would've made any part of a coalition with Tories unthinkable. I've gotten used to LibDems not voting with Tory government on a regular basis.


Despite having been fooled before I genuinely do reckon it would be unthinkable now.

Even if you take Brexit entirely out of the equation and pretend it doesn't exist if Swinson (should she keep her seat) mooted any such thing the party would remove her belt and shoelaces.


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I see Johnson has reneged on something he said he'd do.


Could you imagine sharing a house with him?

"Boris you said you would take the bins out and now we're infested with giant mutant rats."

"Boris you said you would replace the batteries in the fire alarm and now we've all burned to death."

"Boris you said you would lie in front of a bulldozer to stop the house being demolished for a bypass and now it's rubble."

"Boris you said you would fix that hole in the roof so tiny X-wings couldn't fly along the gutter and blow us all up but they evaded our turbo-lasers and we exploded."

"Boris you said you would get a really big boat to hunt that giant shark but the boat was actually quite small and as a result the shark was able to eat most of us."

"Boris you said you would clean out those alien eggs in the basement but now Vicky's got this thing stuck on her face."

"Boris you said you wouldn't open the Ark of the Covenant but now we have weird swooshy angel things flying around the house."

"Boris you said you wouldn't let that dog in the house and now we've all been killed and absorbed into some kind of gestalt, shape changing alien thing."

And so on.


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Crace! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-delusion

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“I can be the next prime minister,” she insisted. “Why so ambitious? Because we can be and we have to be.” Sure, Jo. But there’s ambitious and delusional. There’s all sorts of things we’d all like to do that just aren’t going to happen. And wanging on about them as if they were genuine possibilities merely undermines every other message. Sure enough, Swinson went on to say this was a moment for seismic change. A once-in-a-lifetime election. The sort of once in a lifetime that comes round at every election for the Lib Dems.


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I'm with Swinson. Am currently training to become an astronaut/gravy wrestler/winner of the Great British Bake Off.

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Could you imagine sharing a house with Joe Swinson?

"Jo I thought you said those magic beans you spent our money on would grow into a beanstalk but those look like tomatoes."

"Jo I thought you said you could grow to 50 feet tall and terrify any intruders but you hid in your room."

"Jo there's somebody at the door offering you a 'Frasier Nelson' prize for mangling Scottish pronunciation."

"Jo Where has that seat gone?"

And so on.


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tinyclanger2 wrote:
I'm with Swinson. Am currently training to become an astronaut/gravy wrestler/winner of the Great British Bake Off.

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Jo Swinson the new Paul Nuttall?


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Oh and don't think I haven't noticed Refitman on the Lib Dem voice forums.

I may be banned from posting but one still lurks.


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And here's a thought, as someone hovering around the Labour/Lib-Dem periphery.

Maybe you people should stop being dicks to one another before you ruin it for us all.


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Could you imagine sharing a house with Paul Nuttall?

"Paul - shut it."
"Now."

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