Monday 11th November 2019
Posted: Mon 11 Nov, 2019 6:30 am
A wonderful opportunity to invest,create jobs and maintain peoples' independence says the IFS,or maybe not.
Do we really have to do this again?General election: Corbyn urged to say if he would use nuclear bomb after Thornberry ducks question
Anything to avoid talking about Boris Johnson's inability to use a mop or lay a wreath I guess. Purely theoretical scenarios are one of his few opportunities to shine.gilsey wrote:Do we really have to do this again?General election: Corbyn urged to say if he would use nuclear bomb after Thornberry ducks question
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Slide One is Boris Johnson, yesterday, laying a wreath upside down on the Cenotaph
Slide Two is the footage BBC News are rolling with this morning - bizarrely, it's from 2016.
Of course...Mark Di Stefano
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There’s likely an innocent explanation for this –– young producer couldn’t find yesterday’s footage for overlay or something –– but can confirm BBC running Remembrance footage from years ago.
From an interview last weekAsked whether he could promise voters that he would protect them and their families, the Labour leader said: “What is real security in your life? Real security is somewhere to live, real security is a secure job, real security is a health service, real security is social care, real security is knowing that you can bring up your children in a safe, clean, sustainable environment.”
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Of course, nothing to with the fact that he looked sloppily dressed, stepped out at the wrong time, and laid the wreath the wrong way round!BBC Breakfast
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This morning on the programme we incorrectly used footage from a Remembrance Day service that was not filmed yesterday.
This was a production mistake and we apologise for the error.
10:39 AM - 11 Nov 2019
That Cameron line to Corbyn, smarten yourself up, doesn't look very clever now. The original footage shows BJ looking like he's been dragged through a hedge backwards followed by JC looking very smart indeed. Cameron did him a favour.RogerOThornhill wrote:
Of course, nothing to with the fact that he looked sloppily dressed, stepped out at the wrong time, and laid the wreath the wrong way round!
Now that would be fun to watch...Dave Hill
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Green Party stands aside in London marginal Chingford & Woodford Green to help #LabourParty defeat Iain Duncan Smith: https://tinyurl.com/s977z6b" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; . @sianberry @John_J_C_Moss #GeneralElection.
Farage says Brexit party will not fight Tories in 317 seats in significant boost to Johnson's election chances
Farage says he weighed up Johnson’s promises, against the threat that the Brexit party standing could let the Lib Dems in.
Farage says the Brexit party will not stand against the Tories in the 317 seats they won in 2017.
But it will concentrate its efforts on seats held by the Labour party.
And it will also challenge other remainer parties.
Three I've seen so far but I'm sure there are more. I get this feeling that they're using Bexit as a way into a political party - I don't recall them ever getting overly worried about Brexit until this year's Euro elections.Alka Sehgal Cuthbert
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This isn't good news but it would have been ludicrous for Farage to go ahead and stand everywhere and this was entirely to be expected.Willow904 wrote:This is why Farage had to dump Ukip, a democratically run party that would probably not have agreed to do this. The whole Tommy Robinson toxification of Ukip having previously been carefully engineered to ensure voters wouldn't be tempted to go back to Ukip and split the Brexit vote anyway.
This was so predictable. The Brexit Party has never been an independent threat. It's basically the Tory party "b" team. It's the Torro Rosso to the Tories' Red Bull and they're both singing from the same hymn sheet.
Of all the days to do this, as well!gilsey wrote:Do we really have to do this again?General election: Corbyn urged to say if he would use nuclear bomb after Thornberry ducks question
A compromise between those in BxP who still wanted to stand everywhere and those who wanted an almost total withdrawal from the election.adam wrote:This isn't good news but it would have been ludicrous for Farage to go ahead and stand everywhere and this was entirely to be expected.Willow904 wrote:This is why Farage had to dump Ukip, a democratically run party that would probably not have agreed to do this. The whole Tommy Robinson toxification of Ukip having previously been carefully engineered to ensure voters wouldn't be tempted to go back to Ukip and split the Brexit vote anyway.
This was so predictable. The Brexit Party has never been an independent threat. It's basically the Tory party "b" team. It's the Torro Rosso to the Tories' Red Bull and they're both singing from the same hymn sheet.
True - although there's some discussion about issues like how much coverage they should have (likely functional answer - 'As much as the BBC want them to') and about whether Farage (or indeed Tice) gets to go to a televised leader's debate if they're not a national party.AnatolyKasparov wrote:A compromise between those in BxP who still wanted to stand everywhere and those who wanted an almost total withdrawal from the election.adam wrote:This isn't good news but it would have been ludicrous for Farage to go ahead and stand everywhere and this was entirely to be expected.Willow904 wrote:This is why Farage had to dump Ukip, a democratically run party that would probably not have agreed to do this. The whole Tommy Robinson toxification of Ukip having previously been carefully engineered to ensure voters wouldn't be tempted to go back to Ukip and split the Brexit vote anyway.
This was so predictable. The Brexit Party has never been an independent threat. It's basically the Tory party "b" team. It's the Torro Rosso to the Tories' Red Bull and they're both singing from the same hymn sheet.
It means they can still get a PPB.
"Democracy for the UK...but not in our party" seems to be the message.Peter Walker
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The news also illustrates the astonishingly tight grip Nigel Farage (and Richard Tice) have over the Brexit party. What other party could parade hundreds of eager candidates before the media, and then literally a week later order the bulk of them to stand aside?
12:27 PM - 11 Nov 2019
A now-former BP candidate speaks.RogerOThornhill wrote:Wonder if Farage will pay those who are not now contesting seats their £100 back?
The Survation polling suggests that seats observers have hitherto ignored, such as Hitchin and Romsey, are viable Lib Dem targets. But for all their opportunities in the south east and Home Counties, read between the lines and there's a question. The Lib Dems are up around ten points in the polls compared to 2017. The published Survation constituency polls show them up around 20 points in Esher, Wokingham, South Cambridgeshire and North East Somerset. They are not up 20 points nationally though - so where are they struggling?
Survation only publish the polls their clients authorise them to. We don't know what polls the Lib Dems have commissioned which they aren't publishing - which seats, and what results they're showing.
The Brexity Midlands will be tough for the party, but that's not where they're targeting. By contrast, the south west is looking glaring by its relative absence from the published Survation polls - it's the traditional Lib Dem heartland where most of the party's easier target seats are. And yet so far Survation has only published results from Jacob Rees Mogg's North East Somerset seat in the south west. Yes, the Lib Dems are up 20 points there on 2017 - but the seat contains demographic overspill from the Remain heartland of Bristol. That is quite unlike Devon, Cornwall and Somerset. Surely the Lib Dems have commissioned polls here. If the party is sitting on them, they're doing it for a reason.
and a thousand thank yous.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Oh, and.......10,000
I expect they will just get a new one?adam wrote:The tory candidate in Hartepool has said he won't stand against Tice - Farage might have forced a deal onto Johnson whatever the Tories think nationally.
Apart from the obvious one...In his first address to the House of Commons after becoming prime minister in July, Johnson told MPs that “under no circumstances” would he nominate a new commissioner – a promise aimed at signalling his determination to leave the EU on 31 October.
I've just had a look at the Survation constituency poll for NE Somerset and it's not very exciting for anyone other than local Libdems as far as I can see. They do appear to be beating Labour for second, a complete turnaround from 2 years ago, but Labour + Libdem combined are still not enough to overhaul Jacob Rees-Mogg, so it's still pretty much a safe Tory seat, as it has been since its inception in 2010.gilsey wrote:https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-anal ... e-counties
The Survation polling suggests that seats observers have hitherto ignored, such as Hitchin and Romsey, are viable Lib Dem targets. But for all their opportunities in the south east and Home Counties, read between the lines and there's a question. The Lib Dems are up around ten points in the polls compared to 2017. The published Survation constituency polls show them up around 20 points in Esher, Wokingham, South Cambridgeshire and North East Somerset. They are not up 20 points nationally though - so where are they struggling?
Survation only publish the polls their clients authorise them to. We don't know what polls the Lib Dems have commissioned which they aren't publishing - which seats, and what results they're showing.
The Brexity Midlands will be tough for the party, but that's not where they're targeting. By contrast, the south west is looking glaring by its relative absence from the published Survation polls - it's the traditional Lib Dem heartland where most of the party's easier target seats are. And yet so far Survation has only published results from Jacob Rees Mogg's North East Somerset seat in the south west. Yes, the Lib Dems are up 20 points there on 2017 - but the seat contains demographic overspill from the Remain heartland of Bristol. That is quite unlike Devon, Cornwall and Somerset. Surely the Lib Dems have commissioned polls here. If the party is sitting on them, they're doing it for a reason.
It is at least possible that it won't be the simple boost for the Tories that some pundits have asserted.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Anyone else think Farage's announcement could backfire?
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NEW: The Prime Minister will chair an emergency COBR meeting tomorrow to discuss the response to recent flooding.
That’s *5 days* after after floods hit Yorkshire and the East Midlands.
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...as if it was his own decision and not one made for him.Calvin Robinson
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I am standing down as @brexitparty_uk's candidate in Broxtowe. It is the right thing to do.
I'll be supporting @VoteDarrenHenry to ensure we get a Conservative majority and #GetBrexitDone!
Thank you to everyone who supported our campaign, #Broxtowe4Brexit. An amazing team!