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And that cancellation of the planned CT rate cut - wonder what the reaction to that will be given what Labour said about doing exactly that before.

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1. We're going to cut taxes, because cutting taxes raises revenue.
2. We're going to cancel the tax cut, and cancelling the tax cut will raise revenue.

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1. We're going to cut taxes, because cutting taxes raises revenue.
2. We're going to cancel the tax cut, and cancelling the tax cut will raise revenue.



Isn't that rather like what's known as a "compensating error"?


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1. We're going to cut taxes, because cutting taxes raises revenue.
2. We're going to cancel the tax cut, and cancelling the tax cut will raise revenue.



Isn't that rather like what's known as a "compensating error"?


I thought perhaps it was some kind of 'moron'.

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ITV will cancel tomorrow night's debate if they lose the court case Swinson has brought against them.


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I've counted 5 Spiked writers so far as Brexit Party candidates. Coincidence?

https://twitter.com/TBPCarshWall/status ... 5252473856

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Eh?

Given that we've only known that it was a Leave-voting constituency since 2016, where does he get the other 19 from I wonder?

https://www.spiked-online.com/author/james-woudhuysen/

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From AS.

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The Federation of Small Businesses has welcomed Jeremy Corbyn’s promise to tackle the late payments crisis which has left many small businesses waiting without cash for invoices to be honoured.

“Our late payment crisis remains the biggest scourge afflicting the UK’s small business community. It destroys 50,000 firms a year at a cost of at least £2.5bn to the economy,” said chairman Mike Cherry.


Good.

I recall Philip Green telling No 10 that they should save money by delaying payments to businesses...

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"Skills Wallet" (Jo Swinson)?

Sounds like another wheeze to potentially funnel public funds to the private sector.


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Who's playing Spot the Split Infinitive?


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Good to see the IFS position on Leadson's laughably simplistic take on CT cuts since 2010.

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Corporation tax revenue has increased since 2010 even while the headline rate has been cut. But that does not mean that rate reductions have increased revenue.

First ... much of the rise in revenue since 2010 is simply recovering from the effects of the financial crisis and recession. We would have expected a recovery in profits even if the corporation tax rate had not been cut.

Second, while the government has reduced the headline rate of corporation tax, at the same time it has increased corporation tax in other ways, including reducing capital allowances for investment, introducing the bank surcharge, restricting companies’ ability to offset past losses against future profits, and a raft of anti-avoidance measures ... Taken together these measures recoup around £10bn of the £13bn spent reducing the headline rate.


Two figures from the CT receipts history show that well.

2008/9.......£43.7bn
2009/10.....£36.5bn

It took until 2015/16 to go back above that 2008/9 figure.

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The Liberal Democrats and SNP have lost a high court challenge against ITV over its decision to exclude their party leaders from a televised election debate.

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God knows what we did a previous life to deserve a choice between Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn, but it must have been fucking terrible.


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Of course I don't agree with the question, as someone else said on twitter, one doesn't care if you die, the other will work to see that you don't, what's so hard.

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The Liberal Democrats and SNP have lost a high court challenge against ITV over its decision to exclude their party leaders from a televised election debate.


Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.


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G4S has no place on ethical index, London Stock Exchange told

Campaigners say conscientious investors would be ‘horrified’ by link to controversial firm

Human rights campaigners have criticised the London Stock Exchange Group for including G4S on ethical investment indices, after the British security company was accused of contributing to human rights violations.

The FTSE4Good index, run by the London Stock Exchange Group’s FTSE Russell subsidiary, has included G4S for the past three years.

During that time, G4S, one of the world’s largest public sector employers, with 546,000 employees in 90 countries, has been at the centre of multiple controversies over its treatment of workers. (Guardian)


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/nov/18/london-stock-exchange-criticised-for-including-g4s-on-ethical-index


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It’s not just Boris Johnson’s lying. It’s that the media let him get away with it

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/18/boris-johnson-lying-media

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Welcome to the Conservative party election campaign. I have been a political reporter for almost three decades and have never encountered a senior British politician who lies and fabricates so regularly, so shamelessly and so systematically as Boris Johnson. Or gets away with his deceit with such ease.


Hard to know whether this should be a :wall: or a :clap:

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All that can be done is to keep saying it and hope enough people notice.....


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Five Broken Cameras

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5 Broken Cameras is a first-hand account of protests in Bil'in, a West Bank village affected by the Israeli West Bank barrier. The documentary was shot almost entirely by Palestinian farmer Emad Burnat, who bought his first camera in 2005 to record the birth of his youngest son. In 2009 Israeli co-director Guy Davidi joined the project. Structured around the destruction of Burnat's cameras, the filmmakers' collaboration follows one family's evolution over five years of turmoil.


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
All that can be done is to keep saying it and hope enough people notice.....


Judging by some of the comments I've seen from rabid leave types, I don't think they care. Brexit is everything and they don't care whether their PM is a serial liar.

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In other news I'd be amazed after what happened today if Andy Slaughter doesn't get re-elected.

https://twitter.com/DaveHill/status/1196550432925126657

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RogerOThornhill wrote:
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All that can be done is to keep saying it and hope enough people notice.....


Judging by some of the comments I've seen from rabid leave types, I don't think they care. Brexit is everything and they don't care whether their PM is a serial liar.


Yes, but how many of them are there actually? I suppose we could be about to find out soon......


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On the DT front pages tomorrow it has re the CT u-turn "Johnson accused of appeasing socialists with business tax U-turn"

People have short memories...

1979-80 52%
1980-81 52%
1981-82 52%
1982-83 52%
1983-84 50%
1984-85 45%
1985-86 40%
1986-87 35%
1987-88 35%
1988-89 35%
1989-90 35%
1990-91 34%
1991-92 33%
1992-93 33%
1993-94 33%
1994-95 33%
1995-96 33%
1996-97 33%

Not sure what you'd be accused of if you suggested that a reasonable CT rate now was 33%...

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