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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov, 2019 6:55 am 
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I don't know who Al is but he or perhaps she always seem to be about.


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov, 2019 7:43 am 
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In a Teesside fabrication yard @BorisJohnson may have just blurted out big manifesto offer to raise NI threshold to £12,000. PM TV interviews delayed as Tory officials decide what to do

2:10 PM - Nov 20, 2019 (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)


What an apt location!


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov, 2019 8:06 am 
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Angela Raynor did well (Sky) on the Labour Manifesto.


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov, 2019 9:14 am 
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Portsmouth general election candidate calls police over 'shameful Brexit position lie’ (Portsmouth News)


https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/portsmouth-general-election-candidate-calls-police-over-shameful-brexit-position-lie-1-9149573


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Nah,not having it,the very idea a Liberal would knowingly lie,is ridiculous.


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Libdem or whatever they are calling themselves this nanosecond.


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The £85 next year bribe has certainly made me reconsider my hatred for the Bastard Tory and Union of Arseholes Party.


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I hate them more.


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Call it revenge with love

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That bloody rogue "o" gets everywhere.


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I've canvassed myself,it was "as expected",I thought at first I was out.


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Just us today, then?


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Roger is about,or has been.


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I had to change my routine slightly by shouting Vote Labour(twice ,once for each Tory placard)every time I pass,twice a day.


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https://amp.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ssion=true


I suppose it is one way to ensure generational fairnes,given those of working age increasingly die before sufficiently proving they are ill


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There is no robust evidence that life shortening policy shortens your life


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And now a word from our sponsor..(or three)

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A few quid a year for a shortened and worse life,difficult one.


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Told that the measures in the Labour manifesto are Remain compliant, indeed consistent with either result of a new referendum. There were some doubts expressed in civil service about 2017 manifesto compatibility with EEA & EU, esp mail renationalisation...


Faisal Islam

(Politics Live, Guardian)

Looks like it's well thought-out (as you would hope). Recommend reading the rest of the Faisal Islam "tweets" on this (over at Politics Live).


Edited - tidy up


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Apparently, I'm "browsing" (alone).


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Morning all.

Labour Manifesto if anyone's interested.

https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/upload ... o-2019.pdf

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I got a fake "your TV licence has expired" email today, anybody else had this recently?


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
I got a fake "your TV licence has expired" email today, anybody else had this recently?


No - I've only recently renewed mine - all above-boardly(?).


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I got a fake "your TV licence has expired" email today, anybody else had this recently?


Yes the other day - ours has been January ever since I moved into our first house 33 years ago...

Wonder how many people get caught by it?

Getting bleedin' fed up with the "hello, this is x from BT. I'm calling about your broadband..." as well.

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Andrew @afneil: “In 2014 you promised to build 200,000 new starter homes. That was 5 years ago. How many did you build?”
Liz Truss: “I don’t have the figures.”
AN: “it’s an easy number to remember, ZERO, you built ZERO new starter homes.”

#dailypolitics


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Tories set up 'Labour manifesto' website to attack Corbyn's plans

Stunt comes after party was criticised for branding Twitter account as factcheckUK

The Conservatives had apparently paid for a Google advert which meant internet browsers were directed to the website when they searched for “Labour”. (Guardian)


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/21/tory-party-tweets-link-to-fake-labour-manifesto-site


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They really wouldn't need to do this stuff if they were as confident about the election as they claim. That's my take on it anyway.


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
They really wouldn't need to do this stuff if they were as confident about the election as they claim. That's my take on it anyway.


With this lot it's more like they don't actually know any other way.

"Shenanigans" seems to be their default setting. (A reference to South Park for those not in the know).

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Oh dear.

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1197428059546238976?s=19


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Tories have also been playing "Silly Bulgars" with a several months old Jess Phillips interview this morning.


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Israel’s attorney general has indicted Benjamin Netanyahu for bribery, fraud and breach of trust.

Avichai Mandelblit said on Thursday that the prime minister would be charged in all three major corruption cases for which he was investigated.

The dramatic announcement, the culmination of three years of inquiries, arrives at a fraught time for Israel’s longest-serving leader. Netanyahu is fighting for his political life after failing to secure a clear win in two elections this year.

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And now it appears that the Evening Osborne may have libelled Corbyn.


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And now it appears that the Evening Osborne may have libelled Corbyn.


Tell me more . . .


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Boris Johnson has pulled out of a planned Channel 4 leaders’ debate, according to Channel 4’s Louisa Compton. (Politics Live, Guardian)


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And now it appears that the Evening Osborne may have libelled Corbyn.


Tell me more . . .


Interview with Lynn Barber in its magazine, where he was reported as saying "there is no anti-Semitism in Labour".

Claim has now vanished from its social media presence, but the magazine that contained the (unamended) piece still went out today.

Awkward......


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Groan award for today's editorial.

'Planting lots of trees is magnificent. But money does not grow on them'


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And for those here who support Labour a hugely supportive piece from Polly Toynbee.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ion-corbyn


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Fiona Hill’s full opening statement in Trump impeachment hearing
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/r ... nt-hearing


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I've not consistently followed US politics for some years now. Fiona Hill is an interesting person. The short statement contains interesting biographical information I didn't know.


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Groan award for today's editorial.

'Planting lots of trees is magnificent. But money does not grow on them'
Trees don't grow on money.


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Apologies for the local election review being delayed again - tomorrow hopefully ;)


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