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Friday 29th November 2019

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Morning all.
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Morning all.

The only comment you need on their latest attempts to do something about Ofsted.
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More budget for Ofsted is good. Getting rid of the outstanding school exemption is good. But the no notice inspections thing *again*? Really?
Schools get 1/2 day's notice right now - call goes to the school at midday the day before. Enough time to get paperwork together but nowhere near enough to paper over any gaps you might have.
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It's all so negative, isn't it, this obsession with catching people out, tripping them up. Schools are being incentivised to cover up problems, to brush them under the carpet, when really they should be incentivised to identify and highlight problems. There should be cash and support for schools that are struggling, mentoring from successful heads, that sort of thing, but as things stand if you're found to have problems all you get is sanctions and criticism. It leads to serious head-in-the-sand, la la la, everything's fine mentality that more than anything winds up parents suffering the consequences of underfunded, struggling schools.
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Pressure on the BBC seems to be working:
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BBC source tells me, "Boris Johnson is not booked on Marr this weekend. He won’t be doing Marr until we have confirmed and announced a date for the Neil interview."
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Oh dear...haven't yet seen anyone who was impressed by the PM...
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That was a bruising hour for Boris Johnson... difficult exchanges on.,..

- Trade deals
- Hospitals
- Social care
- Apprenticeships
- Single mums
- Russia
- Future of Mogg
- Andrew Neil interview

Bravo Nick Ferrari, LBC and the callers.

#GE2019

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And...
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Boris Johnson on LBC: "When I say I’m going to do something in politics, I generally achieve what I set out to do.”

Not sure all would agree with that.

Johnson says the Garden Bridge in London was "a viable project" when he left office as mayor. This is simply not true.

9:11 AM - 29 Nov 2019
Mind you, he did say he was going to buy some water cannons and he kept his word. Didn't work out that well though...
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Boris Johnson signalling Nick Ferrari to end a line of questioning he doesn't like, forgetting he's on camera, or Boris Johnson indulging in some light-hearted tom foolery which apparently involves him looking about as far away from mirth as it is physically possible to be?
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Good morning, everyone.
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He was apparently asked how many kids he actually has, too. Gave a total non-answer of course!
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From the G:
Johnson lists some potential benefits of Brexit
Johnson is now speaking about the benefits from Brexit. The UK will be able to:

Buy British, in government procurement

Abolish the tampon tax

Intervene to protect British businesses

Introduce an Australian-style points-based immigration system

(This may be the first time that being able to abolish the tampon tax has been cited as the second most prominent benefit from Brexit.)
In a list of 4.

This is what we are leaving the EU for. A minor tax adjustment on sanitary products, an immigration system designed by Australia to facilitate increased immigration and old style, socialist bailing out of British businesses as favoured by Jeremy Corbyn. I can see that British bias in government procurement will have appeal, which is why it's at the top of the list, but the likelihood of it offsetting the loss of frictionless trade with our nearest trading partners seems pretty remote to me and besides, it's not exactly difficult to frame your procurement requirements to favour a national bidder even within the EU, the remarkable thing being we've never bothered when everyone else seems to be doing it.
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Now being asked why he's hiding from Andrew Neil.

And where's Jacob Rees-Mogg.
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Answer?

"The monarchy is the queen".

"We won't be bringing back fox hunting".

"...shark fin soup..."

"Ask Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour party what is their plan here to bring back these freedoms [to ban shark fin soup I presume]".

"Jacob Rees-Mogg is in very good health as far as I'm aware".
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To be fair, Johnson did kind of answer the Andrew Neil question there, albeit more via demonstration than a direct response.
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What is this "shark fin soup" thing?
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"Shark fin soup" evolved from a question about fox hunting which Johnson attempted to use to "seamlessly" bend the conversation back to Brexit via the Tories new found enthusiasm for animal welfare, which will apparently benefit from the new freedoms he will achieve with his Brexit deal which he seems to be suggesting will enable us to ban shark fin soup.

All of which seemed to be about shoe-horning in his new Brexit related catchphrase "freedoms", attacking Jeremy Corbyn for not offering any "freedoms" and talking long enough to dodge the Andrew Neil question.

All done with the eclat of a wallowing hippopotamus.
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Willow904 wrote:---
All done with the eclat of a wallowing hippopotamus.
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Johnson really isn't prime minister material.
I've noticed that is no longer pointedly said of the Labour party leader.
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on State Aid...

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This is untrue, as there's an exception ->
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Rightwing thinktank IEA says new Tory Brexit policies show 'little understanding of benefits of free trade'

:lol:

So, what to do if you're a Tory drone who won't hear a word said against his party...but also a slavish supporter of the IEA?

We know the answer - ignore it.
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Incidentally has anyone found out exactly why Stanley Johnson showed up at C4 yesterday?

It wasn't to do a "I'm sorry, my son can't come out to play today" was it?
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The things the IEA are criticising are the things Johnson's only talking about to attract Labour leave voters. They won't survive the election anyway.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:Incidentally has anyone found out exactly why Stanley Johnson showed up at C4 yesterday?
Yes - that's been puzzling me, too. Doesn't seem as if they were proposing a double-act.
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Especially since Tories are indignantly denying that his son sent him there......
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Especially since Tories are indignantly denying that his son sent him there......
When he was being asked about it last night he seemed to imply he had been specifically invited by the organisers of the show. He gave no indication of whether he expected his son to be there or, indeed, Gove.
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Sky - hope you're ok, after last night.
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PorFavor wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:Incidentally has anyone found out exactly why Stanley Johnson showed up at C4 yesterday?
Yes - that's been puzzling me, too. Doesn't seem as if they were proposing a double-act.
C4 invited him to the spin room, I think.
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And I hope anybody on here who was in central London today is OK. Precisely what we don't need.
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Jeez, LDV have a post on the wonders of the Laffer Curve and how we should adhere to it. :lol: :lol: :toss:
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refitman wrote:Jeez, LDV have a post on the wonders of the Laffer Curve and how we should adhere to it. :lol: :lol: :toss:
They're having a laffer, surely?
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refitman wrote:Jeez, LDV have a post on the wonders of the Laffer Curve and how we should adhere to it. :lol: :lol: :toss:
Odd that no-one can ever say what the optimum rate should be but they are quite clear that it is "lower than it is now"...
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