Monday 16th December 2019

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Re: Monday 16th December 2019

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Meanwhile, defending Boris Johnson's lies about 50,000 more nurses to much ridicule on TV beings its rewards in the form of a peerage and her old job back for Nicky Morgan.

If I'd been laughed at to that extent I wouldn't dare show my face in public again but there you go...
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tinyclanger2 wrote:I don’t know anything about MSF’s leadership I should add, but someone leading an organization like that effectively, must have the kind of gravitas and real world experience we need.

(PTO)
Should we get someone shadowing Médecins Sans Frontières's leadership? You reckon MSF would be okay with it?
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Miatta Fahnbulleh, head of the New Economics Foundation thinktank, says in an article for the Guardian that Labour should not ditch its entire policy programme.

Whatever the final verdict, the Labour party will have to change if it is to reconnect with the broad coalition of voters it needs to win back power. But as it does this, it must not lose sight of the one thing it got right in this election. Labour was right to grasp the scale of the economic and environmental challenge the country faces and offer ambitious solutions. Against the backdrop of the longest squeeze in living standards for generations, economic growth that has passed many communities by, entrenched poverty and a climate emergency, Labour offered a manifesto that began to rise to the challenge. It contained flaws, but it would have undoubtedly begun the process of transforming our economy. Those eager to reject Corbyn would be wrong to abandon this ground as well. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Yes. I think that's right.

(Oh - @tinyclanger2 - thanks for the PTO.)
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A few posts I read under the Tom Kibasi article are vile.
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PorFavor wrote:
Miatta Fahnbulleh, head of the New Economics Foundation thinktank, says in an article for the Guardian that Labour should not ditch its entire policy programme.

Whatever the final verdict, the Labour party will have to change if it is to reconnect with the broad coalition of voters it needs to win back power. But as it does this, it must not lose sight of the one thing it got right in this election. Labour was right to grasp the scale of the economic and environmental challenge the country faces and offer ambitious solutions. Against the backdrop of the longest squeeze in living standards for generations, economic growth that has passed many communities by, entrenched poverty and a climate emergency, Labour offered a manifesto that began to rise to the challenge. It contained flaws, but it would have undoubtedly begun the process of transforming our economy. Those eager to reject Corbyn would be wrong to abandon this ground as well. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Yes. I think that's right.

(Oh - @tinyclanger2 - thanks for the PTO.)
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Just to add - the ambitious solutions need to be mentioned constantly, and over time. A big election rush won't work. Build up the "narrative" so that the changes needed become common currency and become embedded - not sprung on people. We now know (and probably always did) that that approach doesn't work.

It needs to start now.
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More than 100 charities urge Johnson not to cut aid dept
One wonders at the degree to which he’s bothered.
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Brings to mind a Pointer Sisters song . . .


Edited to add - my last post, just in case anyone is wondering.
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What do you mean?
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Looks like Mary Anning might get a statue in Lyme Regis
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tinyclanger2 wrote:What do you mean?
Some of the words to "Slow Hand". By no means a favourite of mine, but it just sprang to mind.
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Further to tinyclanger2's post -
Hopes rise for statue of pioneering fossil hunter Mary Anning

Mother’s fundraising campaign in Lyme Regis has been backed by likes of David Attenborough
(Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/201 ... ary-anning

Edited to add - that's not Mary Anning(b.1799)'s mother's fundraising campaign, by the way.
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The neighbourhood foxes sound as though they've declared war. I seem to be behind their front lines and they're facing the other direction.
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Playing it safe.
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I welcome my fox overlords.
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Hung parliament and 70 Lib Dem MPs: What the general election result would have been if we used a PR system
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Nearly 52 per cent supported parties in favour of a second referendum, compared with 47 per cent who supported Brexit-backing parties, such as the Tories, the DUP and Mr Farage’s outfit.
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Mr Farage’s outfit normally incorporating a flat cap, a car coat and driving gloves
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Suit yourselves
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Meanwhile Mark Steel:

“So the people of Blyth decided to confirm their distaste for the establishment, those remote London types who don’t listen to them, by putting their trust in common folk who understand what it’s like to live in a former shipyard town – people like Boris Johnson and Jacob ‘always drilling a rivet’ Rees-Mogg.”
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Goodnight, everyone.
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PorFavor wrote:Further to tinyclanger2's post -
Hopes rise for statue of pioneering fossil hunter Mary Anning

Mother’s fundraising campaign in Lyme Regis has been backed by likes of David Attenborough
(Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/201 ... ary-anning

Edited to add - that's not Mary Anning(b.1799)'s mother's fundraising campaign, by the way.
Her grave is very central in Lyme and is usually covered with flowers and fossils people have left for her. Although of course a statue would be a good thing too. (Edited to add- to be honest, everywhere in Lyme is very central in Lyme, but you know what I mean).
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Nice to know - thanks!
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Oh right massive surprise: Johnson puts no deal Brexit back on the table.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 49341.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Angry MPs say ... yawn. Like no-one saw this one coming.
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