Wednesday 15th January 2020
Posted: Wed 15 Jan, 2020 7:07 am
Morning all.
So far I've resisted the temptation to send this to a niece and a daughter !PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning All
Off topic but something a bit different. It's the fourth day of the epic Montane Spine Challenge. Runners complete the whole of the 280 mile Pennine Way in one go, obviously in winter conditions and mainly in the dark.
Last year an amazing run saw new mum Jasmine Paris trounce the men and smash the course record. Not quite so fairytale this year, but plucky young Brit Jayson Cavill is steadily gaining ground on the American leader John Kelly. Jayson took some time out earlier in the race for a proper sleep, whereas John has soldiered on with little rest.
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” When this moved gently on to the promise to sort out social care “once and for all”, Walker did gently interrupt the prime minister. “You stood outside this building and said there was a plan. Where is that plan?”
A flash of silence. A micro grimace. There had been no overbearing interruptions. No “Can I finish, can I finish?” The prime minister had been allowed to finish, for 20 long minutes by this point. It was a sotto voce defenestration.
That expanding half-second was the kind of thing movie scriptwriters call a “beat”. An immeasurable moment in time, in which the cacophonic whirring of the prime minister’s brain seemed loud enough to down an aeroplane.
Jesus Christ. Even this guy’s found me out. Is there nowhere I can go?
Unfortunately no, there absolutely isn’t. Because he did stand outside No 10 last summer and say he already had a plan for social care. The number of social care plans he claimed to have was, unlike his number of children, not a secret. The number was one.
Except that it wasn’t, was it. The number, of course, is zero.
It was, as ever, all bluster. The smirk briefly died away. “Well, we’re bringing forward a proposal, erm, it’s important to get it right, erm, err.”
Oh well. Nothing anyone can do about it now. This is our fate. We chose it. The last laugh, of course, is going to be on us – for five long years, if not 10. ”
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Some of it is so "on the nose" that it hurts.gilsey wrote:Good morning.
Some of you will already have seen this, but for those who haven't, it's a good read.
The Center Blows Itself Up: Care and Spite in the ‘Brexit Election’
Oliver Milne
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She adds that "internationalism itself is under attack as it has become associated with membership of the global liberal elite" but that Labour's vision has and should be defined by global solidarity.
1:10 PM - Jan 15, 2020
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Woah - Lisa Nandy comes out against a trade deal with the US. Says Britain should refuse to do a trade deal with any country that hasn’t ratified the Paris climate agreement
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1:23 PM - Jan 15, 2020
(Politics Live, Guardian)
So why didn't she?Q: Why did you not mention the green new deal in your speech?
Nandy says she did not use the phrase because “it means absolutely nothing to most of my constituents”.
She says the party needs to find the right language to explain its policies. (Politics Live, Guardian)
frog222 wrote:So far I've resisted the temptation to send this to a niece and a daughter !PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning All
Off topic but something a bit different. It's the fourth day of the epic Montane Spine Challenge. Runners complete the whole of the 280 mile Pennine Way in one go, obviously in winter conditions and mainly in the dark.
Last year an amazing run saw new mum Jasmine Paris trounce the men and smash the course record. Not quite so fairytale this year, but plucky young Brit Jayson Cavill is steadily gaining ground on the American leader John Kelly. Jayson took some time out earlier in the race for a proper sleep, whereas John has soldiered on with little rest.
https://live.thespinerace.com/#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Their husbands and young children already coexist with Ironmen and marathon activities
frog222 wrote:So far I've resisted the temptation to send this to a niece and a daughter !PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning All
Off topic but something a bit different. It's the fourth day of the epic Montane Spine Challenge. Runners complete the whole of the 280 mile Pennine Way in one go, obviously in winter conditions and mainly in the dark.
Last year an amazing run saw new mum Jasmine Paris trounce the men and smash the course record. Not quite so fairytale this year, but plucky young Brit Jayson Cavill is steadily gaining ground on the American leader John Kelly. Jayson took some time out earlier in the race for a proper sleep, whereas John has soldiered on with little rest.
https://live.thespinerace.com/#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Their husbands and young children already coexist with Ironmen and marathon activities
frog222 wrote:So far I've resisted the temptation to send this to a niece and a daughter !PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning All
Off topic but something a bit different. It's the fourth day of the epic Montane Spine Challenge. Runners complete the whole of the 280 mile Pennine Way in one go, obviously in winter conditions and mainly in the dark.
Last year an amazing run saw new mum Jasmine Paris trounce the men and smash the course record. Not quite so fairytale this year, but plucky young Brit Jayson Cavill is steadily gaining ground on the American leader John Kelly. Jayson took some time out earlier in the race for a proper sleep, whereas John has soldiered on with little rest.
https://live.thespinerace.com/#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Their husbands and young children already coexist with Ironmen and marathon activities
Is that the same Tom Peck who relentlessly slagged the only viable alternative to Johnson non-stop before the GE?frog222 wrote:A bit of a bore for all de-activating the Adblocker every time, so here’s a bit of the Indy's Tom Peck on yesterday’s ‘interview’ —
” When this moved gently on to the promise to sort out social care “once and for all”, Walker did gently interrupt the prime minister. “You stood outside this building and said there was a plan. Where is that plan?”
A flash of silence. A micro grimace. There had been no overbearing interruptions. No “Can I finish, can I finish?” The prime minister had been allowed to finish, for 20 long minutes by this point. It was a sotto voce defenestration.
That expanding half-second was the kind of thing movie scriptwriters call a “beat”. An immeasurable moment in time, in which the cacophonic whirring of the prime minister’s brain seemed loud enough to down an aeroplane.
Jesus Christ. Even this guy’s found me out. Is there nowhere I can go?
Unfortunately no, there absolutely isn’t. Because he did stand outside No 10 last summer and say he already had a plan for social care. The number of social care plans he claimed to have was, unlike his number of children, not a secret. The number was one.
Except that it wasn’t, was it. The number, of course, is zero.
It was, as ever, all bluster. The smirk briefly died away. “Well, we’re bringing forward a proposal, erm, it’s important to get it right, erm, err.”
Oh well. Nothing anyone can do about it now. This is our fate. We chose it. The last laugh, of course, is going to be on us – for five long years, if not 10. ”
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bo ... 83356.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I do too.PorFavor wrote:I hope that Sky'sGoneOut is feeling ok.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... rom-medicsPlan to scrap A&E target sparks furious backlash from medics (Guardian)
How the hell could anyone run over the Cheviots? I've been up Cheviot a couple of times and it's a nightmare because the slopes are almost entirely bog and sphagnum moss and there are no paths.PorFavor wrote:I'd never be so foolhardy as to attempt the Cheviots.
I'm feeling perfectly fine thanks.PorFavor wrote:I hope that Sky'sGoneOut is feeling ok.
Thank you, Paul. After having read elsewhere the repeated claim Labour voters voted Tory in the last GE, I looked again at the results of the election. Tory didn't get many more votes than they did in the 2017 GE. One could be forgiven not knowing that fact because it's not mentioned in news. Labour's vote share plunged - almost 2.6m fewer voters in 2019 than in 2017 but evidence doesn't support the claim those Labour voters turned Tory. I'm not finding a lot of fact-based reporting on the 2019 GE election results in media.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Great post JA
Excellent news! Thank you for letting me know.Sky'sGoneOut wrote:I'm feeling perfectly fine thanks.PorFavor wrote:I hope that Sky'sGoneOut is feeling ok.
For some reason having a brain infection seems to have done me little harm.
Tories are demonstrably bad leadership and won't do anything good for most people. Ten years of their governments have messed us up. It was no mistake the Tory party insisted on a December GE and dominating news with lies about Labour. 670 votes changed our constituency from Labour to Tory out of an electorate total of 55,424. Turnout was down and the day miserable. Tories liked that fine.HindleA wrote:FWIW I don't blame people voting Tory,I blame Labour for not garnering enough votes for themselves.
My post explained the reason I took a look at how many voters Tories managed getting this GE. The news I've read repeatedly claims Labour voters turned Tory. The evidence doesn't support that. I also acknowledged nearly 2.6m people having voted Labour in the 2017 GE didn't do so in 2019. I'm not clutching at straws. I want to know the truth.HindleA wrote:With respect ,unless I've missed the point,the fundamental one being Labour got hammered and was not seen as a viable Government ,barring clutching at straws I can't see the import given as to exactly how many (there were of course some) transferred from Labour to Tory.
Labour don't rely on weather and lies. Tories do.HindleA wrote:Labour shouldn't be relying on timing,the weather and lies are par for the course.
Yes, exactly.HindleA wrote:"change the things you can"
Labour don't rely on lies and weather to get elected, HindleA. Please read my post.HindleA wrote:Oh come on.Labour certainly lied,not least in the (mis)representation of the pension changes which in part were enacted by Labour.Perhaps they didn't lie enough.