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Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 6:50 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 10:09 am
by citizenJA
Good morning, everyone.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 11:01 am
by HindleA
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51167073" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


WTF

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 11:50 am
by AnatolyKasparov
The narrative is being written for her inevitable crushing defeat - her only fault was that she was "too honest"!

In "another place" that I frequent, her LibDem predecessor as MP for Yardley (quite a "colourful" character himself tbf) has some "interesting" observations on Phillips.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 11:55 am
by RogerOThornhill
From the above
and still, you know, young lads getting murdered on most streets in most cities.
Shocking news overnight about three men murdered in Seven Kings.

As it happens I know the area well as we lived very close when we were first married. Where it seems to have happened was near the steps at the side of the health Centre that go up to the High Road across the road from SK Station where I think the argument started.

Now, I note some fingers being pointed this morning as to who is to blame. But unless you put police on every street in London then it's difficult to see how this can be stopped. Unless there were police near the station who failed to stop the argument when it first started, the only people to blame are those with the knives.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 11:56 am
by frog222
I listened to it .

Agree with the "authentic and frank" description, but what he leaves tactfully unsaid is that she came across as 'authentically and frankly' pretty dumb .

The last bit in the bbc article , on Johnson's lying and lightning changes of tack , is simply ... accurate .

As with Trump, much of the electorate just doesn't appear to mind !

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 12:13 pm
by HindleA
Though among the description of Phillips I would use of her,honesty,shall we say,doesn't feature highly.The WTF reaction was not just that aspect of JP piece but more general,not least the "flock"etc reference.More than one narrative or at least a series of intertwinning.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 1:31 pm
by Willow904
HindleA wrote:Though among the description of Phillips I would use of her,honesty,shall we say,doesn't feature highly.The WTF reaction was not just that aspect of JP piece but more general,not least the "flock"etc reference.More than one narrative or at least a series of intertwinning.
They basically call Keir Starmer an unprincipled Blairite liar who's just pretending to support current left wing Labour policies to get elected as leader. Obviously keen to keep the left/right, old Labour/new Labour ultra factionalism and infighting going.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 2:05 pm
by HindleA
There is nothing more dishonest in the pretence of impartial observer,part of the flock of misrepresentatives and deceitfully deliberately creating/exacerbating simplistic divisions/differing points of view,easy fit misassumptions,regardless

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 2:24 pm
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/brit ... revolution" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 2:28 pm
by RogerOThornhill
From that...
“Achieving this comes by working in partnership with the rest of the world and that will not change. With world leading universities and one of the best school systems in the world, we are and will continue to be a global leader in education.”
No, the "school system" is in a mess highlighted by that row between Oftsed and MAT CEOs over the 3 year GCSE row.

We haven't got a school "system."

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 2:41 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Willow904 wrote:
HindleA wrote:Though among the description of Phillips I would use of her,honesty,shall we say,doesn't feature highly.The WTF reaction was not just that aspect of JP piece but more general,not least the "flock"etc reference.More than one narrative or at least a series of intertwinning.
They basically call Keir Starmer an unprincipled Blairite liar who's just pretending to support current left wing Labour policies to get elected as leader. Obviously keen to keep the left/right, old Labour/new Labour ultra factionalism and infighting going.
Even though he was certainly not regarded as a"Blairite" when first elected to parliament in 2015.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 2:53 pm
by HindleA
Though ,it certainly doesn't help that the fervently fractionally ,shall we say,react,behave,exactly to the form deliberately engendered by such "reporting".Also degrees of self-fullfillng/confirming.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 2:58 pm
by HindleA
Egged on by the ever so loyal "traitor"accusers,some may have been in the party for over thirty seconds.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 3:10 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Well both Starmer and Becky LB are being caricatured by their opponents in this contest, though that is par for the course with leadership elections really.

At least they aren't caricaturing themselves, unlike a certain other hopeful :mrgreen:

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 6:12 pm
by PorFavor
Labour leadership: Starmer secures place on final ballot by getting Usdaw nomination (Politics Live, Guardian)
Edited to add -

And Angela Rayner.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 6:14 pm
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 6:25 pm
by PorFavor
I'm relieved that Keir Starmer is "honoured" to be nominated by USDAW, as distinct from "humbled". That's definitely a point in his favour, so far as I'm concerned. I'm sick of all the Uriah Heep-ism that is in vogue at the moment.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 8:45 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... urence-fox" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 9:37 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:I'm relieved that Keir Starmer is "honoured" to be nominated by USDAW, as distinct from "humbled". That's definitely a point in his favour, so far as I'm concerned. I'm sick of all the Uriah Heep-ism that is in vogue at the moment.
same here

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 9:40 pm
by citizenJA
...the Home Office minister Brandon Lewis issued a statement rejecting outright the calls for a physical card to prove settled status, adding that the government’s policy would not change.

He tweeted: “I disagree with the results of today’s @UKHouseofLords vote. The EU settlement scheme grants #EUcitizens with a secure, digital status which can’t be lost, stolen or tampered with. There will be no change to our digital approach.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... e-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 9:45 pm
by citizenJA
Tony Hall’s unexpected announcement that he is to step down as director general of the BBC this summer means that one of the most important jobs in British public life will shortly be up for grabs.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... f-its-life" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I didn't know about his announcement until now
How big a deal is this?

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 10:01 pm
by PorFavor
citizenJA wrote:
Tony Hall’s unexpected announcement that he is to step down as director general of the BBC this summer means that one of the most important jobs in British public life will shortly be up for grabs.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... f-its-life" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I didn't know about his announcement until now
How big a deal is this?
BBC faces 'dangerous moment' after Tony Hall's departure

Tory MPs seize on move with call for overhaul of funding model and end to licence fee
(Guardian)
Hope this explains it a bit.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/ ... -departure

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 10:09 pm
by PorFavor
Presumably it would have some effect on Channel 4, too.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 10:28 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:Presumably it would have some effect on Channel 4, too.
Thank you, PorFavor
:rock:

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 10:28 pm
by citizenJA
Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 10:36 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Phillips isn't going to make it onto the ballot is she?

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 10:39 pm
by gilsey
One hopes not.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 10:42 pm
by PorFavor
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Phillips isn't going to make it onto the ballot is she?
It doesn't look like it. I hope she doesn't start emoting all over the shop about it.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 10:57 pm
by PorFavor
Night night.

Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 11:59 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Evening all. Back from a gig...

The absolute state of this.

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Re: Monday 20th January 2020

Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2020 12:50 am
by RogerOThornhill
Apropos of nothing, come the revolution, anyone using "woke" or "wokeness" will be first up against the fuckin' wall...