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I think I used up my patience quota by the time I was born.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000f1xd


A little known side effect of Universal credit has to do with what I went through today.

Because I'm on ESA regardless of the result of my assessment I have the right to the paperwork used to make the decision, such as the examiner's report, which is somewhat handy if you need to appeal. Guess what happens when you're moved to UC? Yes that's right they've made the information much easier to obtain and offered greater detail about...ha ha no, they've actually made it harder to get the paperwork and reduced the amount of information available making appeals all the more difficult.


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A friend said on Sunday that the Lene Lovich version of Think We're Alone Now 'wasn't very good'.

This was a mistake which he paid for dearly.


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Pleased to hear it (that said friend was taken to task)

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I spelled her first name wrongly, didn't I?

First Mendelssohn, then Lene Lovich. (Although the first was a typo.)


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Nothing that a little light editing wouldn’t fix ...

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He was mocked unmercifully for some considerable time.

Unfortunately he's the kind of person who seems immune to all criticism, just doesn't seem to give a shit no matter how embarrassing he is and just blithely carries on regardless of how exasperating his behaviour can be. Quite why we're friends is beyond me.

Also he keeps beating me when we watch Only Connect which is really annoying.


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Sounds like no level of editing is going to help him. Not even level “significant”.

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Don't know what was edited in my last post. However, Lene Lovich is now lightly edited in the offending one.


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tinyclanger2 wrote:
Sounds like no level of editing is going to help him. Not even level “significant”.


Perhaps he could curry favour by doing a "tidy up".


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Is the top level “quite” edited?

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tinyclanger2 wrote:
Is the top level “quite” edited?


That's for me to know.


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HindleA wrote:
The othering is not a moot point,wherever it emanates.It leads to as but one example a loan scheme exempt from *normal* regulation.


I'm pretty sure that once upon a time if someone on unemployment benefit was given a fine (for speeding, or whatever) the courts couldn't take more than just a few pounds a week from their benefits to pay for it because they had to be left enough to live on.

Yet here we are now and the DWP are regularly leaving people without enough to live on when deducting debt from their benefits and it's hard to understand how this came to happen. Was a law changed somewhere? Can courts now take 50% of people's benefits? Or is the DWP somehow exempt from such law? And if so why? How was this justified in legislation? How are sanctions that knowingly leave people without enough to live on not in breech of law when taking more than a fiver a week for a parking fine is (or was)?

One of Ed Miliband' greatest failures was to not robustly challenge the use of sanctions within universal credit. He had a good opportunity to embarrass the government and put them on the spot when Iain Duncan Smith's DWP threatened people with sanctions in contravention of its own rules, but he bottled it.

Whoever is next Labour leader needs to be able to challenge not just the government's actions, but the media narrative working in the government's interests. A big ask, I know. But although Corbyn clearly cared, he failed to convince enough other people to care and that has to change.

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Oh thanks Post Office broadband, am I allowed back online again? How splendid.

That's now the fourth outage this evening, but I did notice a load of Virgin media vans all over the area today with their engineers mucking about in those green box things on the street (I want to say cabinet but that sounds wrong) so I'm going to blame Richard Branson.


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I got a letter from Virgin the other day. On February 12th (I think) they're fixing a problem that, when challenged, they've consistently said doesn't exist. Reading between the lines, I expect a disaster.

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Trying to fix a problem.

The world couldn't stand another edit.


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Hi Willow,

In the past all benefit claims had "the law says this is how much you need to live on" and then the amount per week, I'm not sure if they still do that but at the time when FOI was brought in various requests were made to find out exactly what that statement meant and each and every answer was either hand wavy or evasive. Essentially it was meaningless.

As to how much the DWP can take off people for debt, a guy who was living in this house who did unskilled agency work (warehousing, labouring) was moved from Jobseekers to UC and was in penury after only a few months, he ended up with about £15 a week to live on and his rent not being payed becuase his UC advisor gave him the wrong advice about declaring his earnings. So not debt as such, but the idea that we all have some kind of legal minimum income guaranteed by the welfare state is now as dead as Iain Duncan Smith's eyes.

Under Universal Credit you can, quite legally, be left with nothing.

Poor guy came knocking at my door trying to sell me his scant remaining possessions, he'd been too proud to say anything until then and had been living on economy noodles.


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I've just checked -

my (latest ESA) letter simply says "The payment of ESA is based on (in my case) your NI Contribution records and any additional amount the law says you need to live on."


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got a letter from Virgin the other day. On February 12th (I think) they're fixing a problem that, when challenged, they've consistently said doesn't exist.


And yet your money is going to fund a problem which evidently does exist which is that there aren't enough rich people in space.


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Well I've had a shitty day so...



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I've kept every piece of correspondence I've ever had from them. Although, to coin a phrase, it's not worth the paper it's written on. Especially my "lifetime DLA award".


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Well, that got me off the Mendelssohn (all day up until a few minutes ago - I got stuck in a brain warp). Probably just as well.


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Did you know that foolscap paper is called that because the original bore the watermark of a fool's cap? For some inexplicable reason I had a burning need to know so I looked it up. The answer was a bit disappointingly obvious.


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Just be an annoying dick.

(Also I love it).



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I love German romanticism, well apart from some of its more unfortunate outcomes of course.


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You're no help.

But it's magnificent.


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You're no help.


I think I may insist that is inscribed on my gravestone.

Presuming I get one of course.


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Right. I'm having a quick fix of German Romanticism and then I'm off to bed.

Bet you're glad today's over.

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Because of course sitting up until half three in the morning getting wasted in your late forties is a good look.


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