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Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 6:59 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 10:03 am
by RogerOThornhill
Morning all.

You can guess who he's talking about...
Steve Peers

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A genuinely terrible appointment. I worked with her on a inquiry to secure EU citizens' rights, and she then voted against the results of the inquiry. Untrustworthy and untalented.
Only time will tell but there will be something she says or does that makes people go "WTF?"...

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 10:21 am
by Willow904
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Chief Secretary to the Treasury Rishi Sunak said on Sky News: "I think it’s worth pointing out, the EU is pretty much the only place in the world that doesn’t use free ports”. He's wrong - the EU has more than 80 free ports (or free zones).

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 10:25 am
by adam
Willow904 wrote:
BBC Reality Check
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Chief Secretary to the Treasury Rishi Sunak said on Sky News: "I think it’s worth pointing out, the EU is pretty much the only place in the world that doesn’t use free ports”. He's wrong - the EU has more than 80 free ports (or free zones).

And over time they have included Liverpool, Southampton, Tilbury, Prestwick and Sheerness, although the coalition government decided not to keep them in 2012.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 10:47 am
by Willow904
adam wrote:
Willow904 wrote:
BBC Reality Check
@BBCRealityCheck
Chief Secretary to the Treasury Rishi Sunak said on Sky News: "I think it’s worth pointing out, the EU is pretty much the only place in the world that doesn’t use free ports”. He's wrong - the EU has more than 80 free ports (or free zones).

And over time they have included Liverpool, Southampton, Tilbury, Prestwick and Sheerness, although the coalition government decided not to keep them in 2012.
One of the main (legit) benefits of free ports has been superseded to a degree by the development of the single market. It's a backward step, in other words, relying on an old-fashioned solution to importing parts from different countries for assembly without incurring multiple import costs. Not an opportunity but a sticking plaster for a self-inflicted wound.

I've seen a suggestion that Sunak is implying EU free ports aren't really free ports and that there are more free free ports out there. Which may be true, but ignores the fact that they have fallen out of use and favour in the EU because being part of a gigantic single market is so much better and so much more economically advantageous that free ports are no longer worth the bureaucracy and hassle they generate in comparison.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 10:53 am
by Willow904
Incidentally I don't think Sunak is trying to imply anything. I think he's outright lying because he needs positive reasons to leave the EU but they don't really exist so he's pretending something being used to try to mitigate the damage of leaving the EU is a reason to leave, knowing full well few journalists will pick him up on the fact that the problems free ports resolve will mostly be created by Brexit in the first place.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 11:02 am
by adam
Willow904 wrote:Incidentally I don't think Sunak is trying to imply anything. I think he's outright lying because he needs positive reasons to leave the EU but they don't really exist so he's pretending something being used to try to mitigate the damage of leaving the EU is a reason to leave, knowing full well few journalists will pick him up on the fact that the problems free ports resolve will mostly be created by Brexit in the first place.
It's also possible, for him and the rest of them, that 'lying' implies a careful intentional deceit and in fact they are all, in a strictly technical sense, bullshitters. It's not that they are going out of their way to lie, they simply don't care about the truth and would rather say whatever suits them in the moment.

Harry Frankfurt - On Bullshit (pdf file)

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 11:48 am
by AnatolyKasparov
I think you're right, its that Trumpian thing of the truth being whatever you say it is.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 12:21 pm
by adam
Good BTL comment in the guardian with a link out to an FT article by the very good Simon Kuper (who wrote the great 'Football against the Enemy' many moons ago) - quoted in part...
For years I've been pointing out that, contrary to the assertions of many Guardian columnists, the Brexit vote was not the vote of the economically left-behind ones in places like Sunderland. Wealthy South-West Norfolk had a higher percentage for Leave than Stoke; 78 percent Remain-voting Hackney has deprivation many times more severe than Leave-voting rural Wiltshire and Dorset. Yet despite these facts being readily to anyone genuinely interested in what the Brexit vote was about, John Harris persisted in doing his mournful walkabouts around depressed council estates in places like Walsall rather than in the affluent suburbs of Bournemouth.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 12:45 pm
by citizenJA
Good afternoon, everyone.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 1:08 pm
by frog222
WATO a few minutes ago -- the Cabinet reciting shit in chorus for the Press --

sounds like North bloody Korea !

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 1:17 pm
by frog222
BOJO -- fubar/snafu ! Paul Waugh on Wato right now --

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CRACE

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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 1:22 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Interesting.
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After balloting our members, the Jewish Labour Movement has nominated @lisanandy for Leader of the Labour Party!
Apparently Nandy is Chair of the Labour Friends of Palestine & the Middle East - something I never knew existed until today.

But they don't appear to be very active given this:

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Maybe a "Vote for Nandy and she won't rock the boat given recent evidence"?

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 2:44 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
RLB got just 1% in that vote apparently, though of course many left wing Jews maintain a firm distance from JLM.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 3:33 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 3:46 pm
by PorFavor
Thanks. The list has the added benefit of helping me solve one of yesterday's anagrams.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 3:47 pm
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 3:51 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
Thank goodness you're here.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 3:51 pm
by HindleA
No doubt AK will provide more detail but Ruth George ex MP returns at local level(Whaley Bridge)

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 3:52 pm
by HindleA
@ICja I had to *cheat* to get one of them.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 4:00 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 4:00 pm
by PorFavor
HindleA wrote:@ICja I had to *cheat* to get one of them.
Education?

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 4:12 pm
by HindleA
Primary -Boddam,Ayios Nikolaos,Buchanhaven ;Secondary-Peterhead;Glasgow,Open University Honours Degree in Bolloxology and Deletion.

You did ask.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 4:15 pm
by HindleA
Boddam "shares"they hung the monkey"thing.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 4:20 pm
by HindleA
And others.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 4:47 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
HindleA wrote:No doubt AK will provide more detail but Ruth George ex MP returns at local level(Whaley Bridge)
And by a stonking margin, too. Anecdotally quite a few locals (going beyond confirmed Labour people) are sorry she narrowly lost in December.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 4:50 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:@ICja I had to *cheat* to get one of them.
I couldn't figure it out but knew it was a humdinger

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 4:52 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 5:10 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 5:19 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
I bet they will.......

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 6:49 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 7:03 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
And as far as developments in the US are concerned, I have just one thing to say.......

NEVER BLOOMBERG.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 7:04 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 7:10 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 7:59 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 9:15 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 9:20 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 9:36 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Looking like Emily Thornberry has fallen just short of getting onto the Labour leadership ballot.

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 9:47 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
My horrible entry surprisingly fails to make ballot (5,10).

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 9:51 pm
by HindleA
641 CLP noms

KS 374
RLB 164
LN 72
ET 31

(640)
AR 365
DB 82
RB 77
IM 60
RA-K 56

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 9:56 pm
by HindleA
Sheesh,parents should take more care in naming their offspring regarding possible anagramatical consequences

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 10:01 pm
by HindleA
(Ha,inlaid nerd)

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 10:17 pm
by adam
Cathedral Fem.

I liked this...
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Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 10:43 pm
by citizenJA
:lol:

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 10:44 pm
by citizenJA
Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 11:11 pm
by HindleA
Top aurally

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 11:13 pm
by HindleA
VP or afro

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 11:14 pm
by HindleA
Jenica zit

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 11:37 pm
by HindleA
TPO

Re: Friday 14th February 2020

Posted: Fri 14 Feb, 2020 11:37 pm
by HindleA
OTP