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The news about the No 10 baby reminded me of this from The Office.

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How did this guy stay at the Torygraph so long? Thread re coronavirus and EWRS.

https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/12 ... 0689710080

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The broader point is that this appraoch applies to a massive range of issues in coming #Brexit process.

Where external experts, industry leaders and civil servants (who generally like fact-based conversations) advance their expertise, but are rebuffed in the name of ideology /19


See also this, I'm not sure I linked it here yesterday.

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Putting this another way, if you give the farmers, the car industry, the aviation industry, the shipping industry, the tech industry and – more widely – students, holidaymakers, retired people, people who travel and need health insurance cards – all of what each of those groups want, you end up with a very soft Brexit indeed.

Yet if you do what just some of those groups want, you cut right into the central myth of Brexit: that the 52% who voted for it actually knew what they were voting for. They didn’t, because there was no agreed Brexit plan, which was the genius of how to win the referendum in the first place.

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Report on December’s general election reveals scale of tactical voting and voters ‘systematically ignored’

Electoral Reform Society.

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Had the Tories got 40% in December rather than nearly 45% as they did, tactical voting would very likely have worked.


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https://www.gov.uk/government/collectio ... ith-the-us


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gilsey wrote:
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Tory votes 13,966,451
Tory vote share 43.6%
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Tory votes 13,636,684
Tory vote Share 42.4%
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The Conservatives gained an extra 48 seats... delivering a majority of 80 seats... .
This is an extraordinary shift given the previous election had seen the Prime Minister lose her majority on a similar vote share.
https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/2019-General-Election-Report.pdf
Tory gains with only 329,767 more votes


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"The US is a developed, high-wage economy with high standards and is our top source of investment and the top destination for UK investment."
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ations.pdf


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My healthy, twenty-nine year old niece pays over $10,000 a year for health care insurance in the US.
Her co-payments, pharmaceutical expenditures and other healthcare expenses are additional costs.
I repeat, my niece pays over $10,000 a year for a healthcare insurance card.


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Salient point is Tory gains in seats and votes and of course Labour losses in seats and votes in substantial numbers.You can scream unfair and stamp your foot,it doesn't change the evidential fact of Labour falling short in the millions.


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Salient point is Tory gains in seats and votes and of course Labour losses in seats and votes in substantial numbers.You can scream unfair and stamp your foot,it doesn't change the evidential fact of Labour falling short in the millions.

I just posted facts boss


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He says the Treasury’s 2018 analysis was “conducted by another government”. It was controversial, he says.
Q: So you no longer accept it?
The spokesman says that was an analysis conducted by a previous government. The government now wants to carry out an alternative analysis, he says.


Daily Politics. John 11:35, as ever.

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Salient point is Tory gains in seats and votes and of course Labour losses in seats and votes in substantial numbers.You can scream unfair and stamp your foot,it doesn't change the evidential fact of Labour falling short in the millions.


Yes, but why?

There are several reasons, but one of them has to be much of the purportedly "remain" campaign spending the previous few years treating the Labour party and its leader as the enemy - whilst giving the Tories (who were, let's remember, actually in government) an effective free pass.

This may appear sour grapes and to some degree likely is, but the last five years have been a gigantic gaslighting exercise by the media and much of "the establishment".


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Oh, and none of the above means that Labour doesn't need to change. The point is, they're not the *only* thing that needs to do so.


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DWP taking some ESA/PIP assessment back in house,


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A yet-to-be-identified region of Britain will become the testing ground next year for a system that combines the assessments for PIP and ESA.


They are for totally different purposes.


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Granted I have a dislike of "combinations"and a distrust of Governments and their (mis)appropriations


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In house only temporarily apparently.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51705069


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HindleA wrote:
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/endorsement-2020-bernie-sanders/

Will he be allowed to win the Presidency of the US if elected?


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A big if.


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As per,I caution on the careful what you wish for (eg".needless repetition of information").One is specific to the extra costs regardless,the other an assessment on expectation of paid employment.This combination of course risks (and the "build up"precedence -Access to work in lieu of extra costs )linking what should never be linked.


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Goodnight, everyone.
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A big if.


It certainly is, but the evidence suggests he has at least as good a chance of unseating Trump as anyone else.


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I've not noticed tinyclanger2 around lately.


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