Tuesday 3rd March 2020

Post by **refitman** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 6:37 am

Morning all.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 10:33 am

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/202 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

‘It was like a poker game’: on the receiving end of a DWP cold call

I am actually lost for words.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 11:36 am

Biden is actually going senile, isn't he? And still the Democratic "establishment" have lined up behind him.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 12:29 pm

Doesn't seem to have done Donald Trump much harm.

Meanwhile Hillary Clinton was written off as unfit for office because she was a bit tired one day....

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 1:11 pm

Trump is, I fear, better at hiding it.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 1:47 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51709639" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 2:56 pm

Even by his standards this Tweet is abysmal

(((Dan Hodges)))
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"You can't criticise Meghan. That's racist". "OK. So presumably it's racist to criticise Priti Patel". "Oh, no. That's fine". "Oh. OK, so presumably it's fine to point out Diane A's contradictory stance on bullying". "Oh, no. That's a dog whistle". Again. What. Are. The. Rules.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 2:59 pm

The worst thing, and why I haven't linked it, is the pile on of folk agreeing with him.

Thankfully interspersed on occasion with rational folk pointing out that nobody much is saying Priti Patel shouldn't be a minister per se, it's just that she's done some bad stuff. Whereas Meghan is accused of what exactly?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 2:59 pm

@PF

And of course he missed a question mark

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 3:21 pm

I saw one of DFH's yesterday which was definitely worth a

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There's a gap in the market for politicians who throw ideology in the bin, give the culture war a swerve and just get on with doing the job. At the moment Matt Hancock is filling it.

5:12 PM - 2 Mar 2020

Probably because this isn't an ideological issue and calls for people who the government had decided they didn't need...experts.

He's currently worshipping at the shrine of St Boris who can do no wrong.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 3:23 pm

The current 11th Commandment - Thous shalt not criticise the Dom.

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EXC: The special adviser who confronted Dominic Cummings over his “unkindness” two weeks ago has been removed from her job

Lynn Davidson is out of her post at the MoD and is leaving government

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 3:44 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:The worst thing, and why I haven't linked it, is the pile on of folk agreeing with him.

Thankfully interspersed on occasion with rational folk pointing out that nobody much is saying Priti Patel shouldn't be a minister per se, it's just that she's done some bad stuff. Whereas Meghan is accused of what exactly?

What has Diane Abbott done wrong this time anyway?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 4:12 pm

Willow904 wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/society/202 ... ssion=true
‘It was like a poker game’: on the receiving end of a DWP cold call
I am actually lost for words.

so am I

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 4:13 pm

That's probably how to handle those calls. Don't talk with them on the phone. Get it in writing.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 4:14 pm

Good afternoon, everyone.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 4:59 pm

Apologies for the non-appearance of the local byelection review thus far - as it happens there are (unusually) no principal level contests this week so I have a bit more leeway to get it done. And it will appear at some point

Post by **refitman** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 5:27 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:The worst thing, and why I haven't linked it, is the pile on of folk agreeing with him.

Thankfully interspersed on occasion with rational folk pointing out that nobody much is saying Priti Patel shouldn't be a minister per se, it's just that she's done some bad stuff. Whereas Meghan is accused of what exactly?

Brian Moore has properly taken him to task over it.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 5:39 pm

Nothing surprises re the DWP and it's agents.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 5:47 pm

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/rebecca-lon ... sm-2042551" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'Likewise on social care for our older people, we have the crisis of 1.4 million older people not getting the care they need. Instead of forcing people into a life lottery, where if they get dementia, they could lose everything, we should pool our risks. So we should work towards a National Care Service that provides a service that is genuinely universal and enables independent living for all. But creating such a service is highly complicated, so while we do it, we should immediately fund free personal care for older people, as an immediate first step."

Genuinely don't get."Social care (system) for the elderly" doesn't exist

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 5:49 pm

And dementia isn't specific to the elderly.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 6:45 pm

https://www.mygov.scot/personal-nursing-care/costs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.gov.scot/policies/social-ca ... e-support/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 6:53 pm

"If the care you're assessed as needing doesn't fall into the categories of personal care, you may be charged for it. This may be for things like housework, shopping and making beds."

Hmm

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 7:21 pm

https://governmentbusiness.co.uk/news/2 ... se-economy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2011 Housing benefit reform was a false economy

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 7:21 pm

https://warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/pre ... ng_benefit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 7:47 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... ve-updates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 7:58 pm

Not sure exactly how that works/will work,we got a budget ,nominally part based on personal care but given the whole basis is that it is for the receiver to decide and in practice the employee did very little in that regard.ie how the fart you separate in that scenario I have no idea before you get to the risk of actual loss for some

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 8:08 pm

Crace -----------------
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... oronavirus" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 8:09 pm

IE how does it work in direct payment/personal budget situations ,what part is deemed "free" and/or would it have made any difference if the rest is chargeable.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 8:15 pm

In general I suppose I struggle with the higher priority/of higher worth based purely on reaching a certain age and nothing else.I call it ageism.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 8:19 pm

You could argue that you should prioritise those that will have less time to live

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 8:41 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lip-rutnam" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 9:08 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... lip-rutnam

I'd been thinking exactly the same as this article ..

Willing administrators of the Hostile Environment AND sundry equally swinish legislations do not deserve any sympathy ?

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 9:48 pm

Shocked by this I heard on our local news today.

Man jailed for drunken shove that led to partner's death
A man who shoved his partner during a drunken row at their Lake District home, causing a fatal head injury, has been jailed for three years by a judge at Carlisle Crown Court.

Patrick Webster
Cumbria PoliceCopyright: Cumbria Police
Katrina Fletcher, 64, fell on to a bedroom cabinet at the flat she shared with Patrick Webster, 62, in St Kentigern’s Close, Keswick, and suffered a brain injury from which she died two weeks later.

Prosecutor Francis McEntee said the couple were known locally to be heavy drinkers who often argued, and Webster had two previous convictions for assaulting Miss Fletcher.

Webster, whose latest address was in Walker Road, Aberdeen, had denied manslaughter but changed his plea to guilty just before the trial.

Colin Aylott QC, mitigating, said Webster knew he had lost "the person he loved most in the world" as a result of his own stupidity.

' You must live for the rest of your life with the fact that you have caused her death." from Judge Peter Davies, passing sentence.

jailed for three years

Three-year jail term shocks domestic violence charity
A three-year jail sentence for a man who killed his partner during a drunken argument at their home in Keswick has been criticised by a charity that supports victims of domestic violence.

Patrick Webster, 62, pushed Katrina Fletcher, who fell over, causing a head injury that from which she died later in hospital.

Jo Cook, from the domestic violence support charity, The Freedom Project West Cumbria, says the length of his sentence sends out the wrong message:

'I think her family very clearly stated that they didn't feel like it had been justice and I think anyone reading the facts of the case would be quite shocked at what the outcome of the case has been."

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 03 Mar, 2020 10:02 pm

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 12:14 am

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... t-benefits

I believe this is what is called in Mafia circles a 'shake down'.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 12:20 am

Sky'sGoneOut wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... t-benefits

I believe this is what is called in Mafia circles a 'shake down'.

So sorry, but I can't help myself -

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 12:41 am

Night night.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 12:47 am

I need an education in soul.

Best I can do is funk.

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 12:52 am

Night PF.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 1:00 am

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 1:18 am

I still believe in god, but god no longer believes in me.

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Ha ha ha.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 1:21 am

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 1:29 am

It gets worse.

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 1:36 am

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Wed 04 Mar, 2020 1:56 am

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