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When I said to 'er indoors that Orient were playing at home on Tuesday, she pointed out that supporters probably sit the requisite distance away from each other so there shouldn't be a problem.

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When I said to 'er indoors that Orient were playing at home on Tuesday, she pointed out that supporters probably sat the requisite distance away from each other so there shouldn't be a problem.


When Sky posted footage of Berwick's games I would have thought exposure was more of a risk than anything infectious.

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https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bris ... th-3941871

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Obviously important Johnson didn't hint this yesterday, parents might do something rash like start planning how they'll deal with it. :roll:

I'm in a particularly difficult and stressful situation with two children off long term sick I had been hoping to re-introduce to school in the coming weeks and months. My daughter has been unwell and off school for the last 18 months with CFS/ME. She does online learning, but has been getting a lot better lately and was looking forward to going back to school part-time to see her friends. It's going to be tough on her to wait but a virus could trigger a relapse so I may have to insist she stays home. My son meanwhile has GCSEs this year but has been off since Christmas after being diagnosed with ulcerative colitis. He's on steroids now and getting better and we were planning for him to return to school for the last couple of weeks of term but now I'm wondering if that's a good idea. School closures would take the decision out of my hands, which would be a relief in a way, but would also prevent my son from getting important support in the run up to the exams (he has ASD and has been struggling generally with secondary school). I fear this latest development is going to pretty much put the kibosh on him doing well in his GCSEs :( Luckily his grandma very kindly bought him a new laptop after his broke so at least he'll be able to access anything online from the comfort of his bed! Unlike my daughter, he would be quite happy with enforced no school. At the end of the day I just want the government to do whatever they can to keep everyone well and safe.

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https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/teachers-warned-expect-possible-month-3941871

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Obviously important Johnson didn't hint this yesterday, parents might do something rash like start planning how they'll deal with it. :roll:


Booking out of school-holiday rentals on the coast? (or has the market already reacted to this and put the prices up?)

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I'm in a particularly difficult and stressful situation with two children off long term sick I had been hoping to re-introduce to school in the coming weeks and months. My daughter has been unwell and off school for the last 18 months with CFS/ME. She does online learning, but has been getting a lot better lately and was looking forward to going back to school part-time to see her friends. It's going to be tough on her to wait but a virus could trigger a relapse so I may have to insist she stays home. My son meanwhile has GCSEs this year but has been off since Christmas after being diagnosed with ulcerative colitis. He's on steroids now and getting better and we were planning for him to return to school for the last couple of weeks of term but now I'm wondering if that's a good idea. School closures would take the decision out of my hands, which would be a relief in a way, but would also prevent my son from getting important support in the run up to the exams (he has ASD and has been struggling generally with secondary school). I fear this latest development is going to pretty much put the kibosh on him doing well in his GCSEs :( Luckily his grandma very kindly bought him a new laptop after his broke so at least he'll be able to access anything online from the comfort of his bed! Unlike my daughter, he would be quite happy with enforced no school. At the end of the day I just want the government to do whatever they can to keep everyone well and safe.


I find it difficult to follow what the government are saying about this because what they appear to be saying is...

1. We are about 4 weeks behind Italy in the cycle of this ...
2. So we don't need to do anything specific yet, like Italy didn't until things have clearly spread at lot more...
3. And we'll take more steps then, when it's happened, rather than now, to try to stop it happening...
4. Because whatever we do now won't make any difference at all...

I might be wrong, that might not be what they're saying, but that's what it sounds like. Countries are banning 'gatherings of 500 people or more'. That's breaktime here.

It's difficult to know what they're trying to achieve other than putting off the point at finding out how inadequate we've become at dealing with a genuine crisis.

And I've seen different things but it seems to be the case that people are saying that if schools close it makes sense for them to stay closed until the peak of the virus has passed - and that means many weeks, months really, rather than a fortnight or so. I had been thinking they were just delaying making a decision until it could lean closures up against the Easter holidays. One of our SLT is clearly running around with tech people trying to set up new virtual learning platforms for us...

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Morning all.

When I said to 'er indoors that Orient were playing at home on Tuesday, she pointed out that supporters probably sit the requisite distance away from each other so there shouldn't be a problem.

Lots of jokes about the County Championship being the only sport to carry on, famous for matches being attended by one man and his dog.

More seriously, tour of Sri Lanka cancelled, guess the SL govt didn't fancy the barmy Army descending on them.

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Something of a theme to sky's qt coverage last night.

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BBC News literally had an Italian minister on a few days ago saying learn from our experience, act early. Most other European countries are heeding their warning. What this exposes, more than anything, is that most other European countries have the capacity within their economy and public services that ten years of austerity and negligent Tory rule has decimated in the UK.

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BBC News literally had an Italian minister on a few days ago saying learn from our experience, act early. Most other European countries are heeding their warning. What this exposes, more than anything, is that most other European countries have the capacity within their economy and public services that ten years of austerity and negligent Tory rule has decimated in the UK.

That's exactly what I've been thinking when people are talking about no checks on incoming travellers at the airports, we just don't have the staff.

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I think some countries have closed secondary schools but not primary? Presumably not as disruptive and here it would also solve the problem of poor kids starving without school dinners. What a thing to have to say.

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EFL confirm fixtures suspended until April
The EFL have confirmed the unprecedented measure after “in light of overnight developments”, ie news of the Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta and Chelsea winger Callum Hudson-Odoi testing positive for coronavirus.

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Premier League, Football League and WSL suspended until 3 April

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I doubt if they will be suspended for just that long.


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Ah well.

Also on the sporting front, the pool was remarkably empty on Tuesday - I had the fast lane to myself for about 25 mins.

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The Czech Republic is completely closing its borders. We need to wash our hands.

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Government still refusing to postpone this May's elections, this will look increasingly irresponsible in the coming weeks and I fully expect a u-turn.


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Apparently you can only be a public health expert if you vote the right way.

Otherwise you'll be sneered at and a bit of offence archaeology (the irony eh?) done on you.

https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1238412657692155905

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Bolsonaro has apparently got coronavirus - and he met Trump very recently......


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Oh sweet jesus...

Why is the government relying on nudge theory to fight coronavirus?

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The UK government’s strategy is influenced by nudge theory, an idea first popularised by the behavioural economist Richard Thaler and political scientist Cass Sunstein. “Nudging” uses insights about our mental processes to change our behaviour through coaxing and positive assertion. Rather than forcing us to do things, nudging tweaks the environments in which we make choices – for example by requiring people to opt out of organ donation, rather than opting in.


I read their book, which was quite interesting for three or four pages and then utter bollocks. "Of course you can't possibly force children not to buy unhealthy food at dinner time, you have to just encourage them to choose healthier options". That was the level of thought in it - libertarian bollocks saying you could never make people do things, only suggest and encourage.

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Bolsonaro has apparently got coronavirus - and he met Trump very recently......


Stewart Lee has said before that if he ever had an incident of sudden complete memory loss he could retrace his footsteps using Twitter ('Sat next to Stewart Lee on the bus. He looks old. And fat.') It seems we can trace the likely trajectory of this by following twitter to see who celebrities have been photographed spending time with...

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Local elections postponed for a year.

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A year, rather than until the autumn? What about the contests due in 2021??


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A year, rather than until the autumn? What about the contests due in 2021??

Good question.


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Local elections postponed for a year.


That'll go down well with the Sadiq Khan Fan Club on the frothing right...

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Seriously, how difficult is it to tell the people who need to know this stuff first?

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Such trivialities don't bother the Great Experimenter Cummings.


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Government still refusing to postpone this May's elections, this will look increasingly irresponsible in the coming weeks and I fully expect a u-turn.

Didn't take long.

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Maybe its a hopeful sign that the "nudge unit" cranks are losing the internal government argument. Not before time if so.


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The conference that I would have normally gone to but decided against this year...has just been postponed for a year.

I've been wavering about which direction to go in research-wise and decided against going this year. Just as well I hadn't booked flights and hotel.

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Good Evening everyone.

[sarcasm]One of those appalling lefties making use of the Coronavirus and the Public Health Crisis it has created to spread socialist propaganda. Disgraceful[/sarcasm]



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An internationally coordinated response was what Darling was calling for this morning on Today.

In the coronavirus crisis, our leaders are failing us

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-crisis-leaders-failing-gordon-brown

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Instead, ours is a divided, leaderless world and we are all suffering from the tendency to go it alone: an initial cover-up in Wuhan; China’s delayed reporting to the international community; the World Health Organization (WHO) meekly agreeing that the crisis was “moderate”; and even when on 30 January it apologised and declared an international emergency, still the world continued to receive confused travel advice.

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Trump's turn.

Compare "this will pass" to "your love ones will die" . Which one's more reassuring, I wonder?

Compare paring back to only testing in hospital to 1.4m tests being made available for widespread testing. Which one gives the impression of taking the pandemic seriously?

Compare expert involved in responding to the HIV crisis to a 'nudge unit'. Which has real world experience of dealing with communicable diseases?

Yep, I'm afraid our PM (and the people around him) is officially more useless and incompetent than Donald Trump. Heaven help us.

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https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first- ... supporters

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gilsey wrote:
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/390397-jurgen-klopp-message-to-supporters
I don't know exactly who this person is; I don't follow sports. His press release is very good.


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gilsey wrote:
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/390397-jurgen-klopp-message-to-supporters
I don't know exactly who this person is; I don't follow sports. His press release is very good.

More than "very good" cJA , Juergen Klopp for PM :-)


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gilsey wrote:
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/390397-jurgen-klopp-message-to-supporters
I don't know exactly who this person is; I don't follow sports. His press release is very good.

More than "very good" cJA , Juergen Klopp for PM :-)


With apologies for the triviality of it, is it possible that this whole thing is a conspiracy against Liverpool?

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https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/390397-jurgen-klopp-message-to-supporters
I don't know exactly who this person is; I don't follow sports. His press release is very good.

More than "very good" cJA , Juergen Klopp for PM :-)
We'd better ask him if he wants that job.


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Trump's turn.

Compare "this will pass" to "your love ones will die" . Which one's more reassuring, I wonder?

Compare paring back to only testing in hospital to 1.4m tests being made available for widespread testing. Which one gives the impression of taking the pandemic seriously?

Compare expert involved in responding to the HIV crisis to a 'nudge unit'. Which has real world experience of dealing with communicable diseases?

Yep, I'm afraid our PM (and the people around him) is officially more useless and incompetent than Donald Trump. Heaven help us.


There is also, in a different way, this...

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...against this...

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I wonder if there's film or video anywhere of a young Biden meeting President Truman?

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