Saturday, 14th March and Sunday, 15th March 2020
Posted: Sat 14 Mar, 2020 9:14 am
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And all of that was because Trump just HAD to destroy anything that Obama did !" A top official who would lead the U.S. response if a deadly pandemic broke out has left the administration amid a broad reorganization of the national security team, The Washington Post reported Thursday.
Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer left the National Security Council (NSC) this week, and national security adviser John Bolton dissolved the global health security team that Ziemer oversaw.
The Post reported that Ziemer will not be replaced, and that his departure means that there is no single official at the highest levels of the administration who focuses only on global health security.""
I saw a thread yesterday on what would happen if the US election had to be cancelled, Trump would be out on 20 Jan 2021. Speaker would be POTUS, failing that for some reason then the President of the Senate, who would be a democrat. President Pelosi!Nate Silver
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I don't get why prediction markets think there's a ~60% chance of a recession this year but that Trump is a ~55% favorite for re-election. One of those forecasts is almost certainly wrong.
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"How well or badly do you think the UK Government are handling the issue of the Coronavirus (COVID-19)?"
[18-24]
31% ~ Well
52% ~ Badly
[65+]
76% ~ Well
14% ~ Badly
Via YouGov, 12-13 March
Peter Jukes
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The only Herd Immunity I can see in Britain in the foreseeable future is to the truth.
Neither I, nor the person writing the thread, were suggesting it was likely.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Elections for POTUS weren't scrapped/delayed for 1864 (Civil War still raging) or 1944 (WW2)
So can't really see it happening this time.
Me at Sainsburys a couple of days ago. Talk about perfect timingRogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
Back from the usual Saturday shop and I find...
No rice
No pasta
No toilet rolls
We only needed the third but can make do with tissues of which there were a few boxes left.
I'm pretty sure it'll be back to normal next week.
Though that poll was taken before the latest screeching u-turn.gilsey wrote:JFC.
Politics For All
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"How well or badly do you think the UK Government are handling the issue of the Coronavirus (COVID-19)?"
[18-24]
31% ~ Well
52% ~ Badly
[65+]
76% ~ Well
14% ~ Badly
Via YouGov, 12-13 MarchPeter Jukes
@peterjukes
The only Herd Immunity I can see in Britain in the foreseeable future is to the truth.
I overheard a literal shriek of terror in Sainsburys - "They're out of Andrex!"gilsey wrote:Sainsburys here had lots of their own brand the other day but little else, Morrisons on the other hand had just restocked and they were piled high.
thank christ for checks and balancesgilsey wrote:I saw a thread yesterday on what would happen if the US election had to be cancelled, Trump would be out on 20 Jan 2021. Speaker would be POTUS, failing that for some reason then the President of the Senate, who would be a democrat. President Pelosi!Nate Silver
@NateSilver538
I don't get why prediction markets think there's a ~60% chance of a recession this year but that Trump is a ~55% favorite for re-election. One of those forecasts is almost certainly wrong.
Unless he can change the Constitution, of course, you wouldn't put it past him to try.
I like what I've read from Jonathan Nunn. Interesting combination of content on his twitter thread.gilsey wrote:Thread.
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I'd dislike running out of toilet paper but hygienic alternatives are available at home. It's not the first thing on my list of must buy. Fresh fruit, vegetables and milk require frequent replenishment. Rice, lentils, canned beans, sardines, dried fruit, oats, fragrance-free soap and laundry detergent, lime-scale prevention tablets, disposable sponges, heavy-duty bin liners and must remember getting alcohol to clean the new thermometerWillow904 wrote:I overheard a literal shriek of terror in Sainsburys - "They're out of Andrex!"gilsey wrote:Sainsburys here had lots of their own brand the other day but little else, Morrisons on the other hand had just restocked and they were piled high.
There wasn't a lot of choice, it's true, but they did have toilet roll, which is all you need if you've completely run out and if you haven't, well, Tesco is only 10 minutes away and they had plenty of Andrex, yesterday, it was their own brand they were completely out of. I think we can figure out why.......
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We have Sunday morning opening at some of my local supermarkets, and I'm planning another stocking-up shop tomorrow, including beer !RogerOThornhill wrote:At least nobody seemed to be panic buying beer...
But......but WE WON TWO WORLD WARS SINGLE HANDED!!!!!!!!!Sky'sGoneOut wrote:Leeds Tesco.
No toilet roll or kitchen roll.
No pasta.
No tinned tomatoes of any kind, no tomato puree, in fact no tomato products at all.
No eggs.
No flour.
No frozen peas.
No Ibuprofen or Paracetemol.
And those are just the things I looked for, there were plenty of other empty shelves.
Oh how I amire that keep calm and carry on spirit of the great British public.
Anyone seen HindleA? No pasta, tomato products or basil in the shops. Lasagna hoarding.AnatolyKasparov wrote:But......but WE WON TWO WORLD WARS SINGLE HANDED!!!!!!!!!Sky'sGoneOut wrote:Leeds Tesco.
No toilet roll or kitchen roll.
No pasta.
No tinned tomatoes of any kind, no tomato puree, in fact no tomato products at all.
No eggs.
No flour.
No frozen peas.
No Ibuprofen or Paracetemol.
And those are just the things I looked for, there were plenty of other empty shelves.
Oh how I amire that keep calm and carry on spirit of the great British public.
Can't shoot down viruses with Spitfires I'm afraid.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Sky'sGoneOut wrote:But......but WE WON TWO WORLD WARS SINGLE HANDED!!!!!!!!!
We had to interview with the chemist before getting clearance to purchase a box of pre-moistened isopropyl alcohol wipes. They were reasonably priced.citizenJA wrote:...alcohol to clean the new thermometer
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... re-workersCoronavirus: Hancock urged to guarantee sick pay for social care workers
MPs sign letter asking for stronger assurances self-isolating carers on zero-hours contracts will be compensated (Guardian)
It does seem awfully suspicious doesn't it?citizenJA wrote:Anyone seen HindleA? No pasta, tomato products or basil in the shops. Lasagna hoarding.
It all makes sense now and I regret the two minutes I suspected him of selfishness. He's likely delivering lasagna and toilet rolls to those without both as we type.Sky'sGoneOut wrote:It does seem awfully suspicious doesn't it?citizenJA wrote:Anyone seen HindleA? No pasta, tomato products or basil in the shops. Lasagna hoarding.
And it doesn't stop there, one time he told me he was a massive fan of toilet paper, knew all the brands and everything. Had an Andrex puppy sitting on top of some kind of shrine.
PorFavor wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... re-workersCoronavirus: Hancock urged to guarantee sick pay for social care workers
MPs sign letter asking for stronger assurances self-isolating carers on zero-hours contracts will be compensated (Guardian)
I think it more likely they continue working because no one else will fill their place leaving people without any care at all.NHS England issued guidance advising trusts to give full sick pay to staff who have to self-isolate because of the disease, but there is growing concern nearly 400,000 carers on zero-hours contracts may miss out. There are fears that carers, who earn little more than £8 an hour on average in the private sector, may turn up for work when they are unwell to avoid losing pay because of illness or self-isolation.
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Revealed: elderly to be quarantined at home or in care homes for four months, in "wartime-style" mobilisation to combat Coronavirus. Full details here.
Ah. That might explain the notice I've received instructing me to turn out for duty tomorrow at zero six hundred hours.RogerOThornhill wrote:Blimey.Robert Peston
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Revealed: elderly to be quarantined at home or in care homes for four months, in "wartime-style" mobilisation to combat Coronavirus. Full details here.
I don't think the UK government website gives the same advice and information.The most common symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, tiredness, and dry cough. Some patients may have aches and pains, nasal congestion, runny nose, sore throat or diarrhea. These symptoms are usually mild and begin gradually. Some people become infected but don’t develop any symptoms and don't feel unwell. Most people (about 80%) recover from the disease without needing special treatment. Around 1 out of every 6 people who gets COVID-19 becomes seriously ill and develops difficulty breathing. Older people, and those with underlying medical problems like high blood pressure, heart problems or diabetes, are more likely to develop serious illness. People with fever, cough and difficulty breathing should seek medical attention.
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Edited to add - I know that I sound completely insane here.
But,but but....the Emperor is completely naked!citizenJA wrote:(cJA edit)adam wrote:---
Edited to add - I know that I sound completely insane here.
No, you don't.
Ah, so the Cummings Great Social Experiment didn't last long then. Who knew??RogerOThornhill wrote:Blimey.
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Revealed: elderly to be quarantined at home or in care homes for four months, in "wartime-style" mobilisation to combat Coronavirus. Full details here.
Precisely, not to mention around 30% of the 'healthy' population who catch Coronavirus will require medical treatment, that's (very roughly) 12 million people.adam wrote:UK - the government are actively persuing a plan that should see infections rise to something like 40,000,000, which would very very roughly, at a 'better' estimate of 1% fatality, mean we would expect to see around 400,000 deaths.
I wouldn't be so sure. This sounds suspiciously like the "cocooning" of vulnerable people necessary in the let everyone get infected herd immunity bollocks scenario. I'd rather children were protected from getting it as much as possible too by closing schools so they can still see gran and grandad occasionally without killing them but then, hey, I'm crazy and think limiting deaths as much as possible until a vaccine is ready is more important than protecting GDP.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Ah, so the Cummings Great Social Experiment didn't last long then. Who knew??RogerOThornhill wrote:Blimey.
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Revealed: elderly to be quarantined at home or in care homes for four months, in "wartime-style" mobilisation to combat Coronavirus. Full details here.
A vaccine that won't be available to us until sometime after it's available to the EU nations, and at a greater cost.Willow904 wrote:I wouldn't be so sure. This sounds suspiciously like the "cocooning" of vulnerable people necessary in the let everyone get infected herd immunity bollocks scenario. I'd rather children were protected from getting it as much as possible too by closing schools so they can still see gran and grandad occasionally without killing them but then, hey, I'm crazy and think limiting deaths as much as possible until a vaccine is ready is more important than protecting GDP.