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I'm at a loss to understand where, and how, people are safely storing all this toilet paper. Should we be bracing ourselves for a rash of serious toilet roll related accidents?
I cheerfully told a group of people with toilet rolls I'd be 'round to borrow a roll when we run out because the market shelves were bare. We can do this peacefully or something else less nice. I left it there for them to consider.



By "borrow" do you mean that you intend to use it and then return it?
Well, see, there you are. I told my story and left them to ponder further course of action. Freedom, they got it. I'm all about liberty. Please give me the roll or it's your outdoor plumbing facilities sometime you won't know when. Please, I said. Your choice.


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None of UC's problems have been resolved and money won't be forthcoming any faster. Statutory sick pay remains less than £95 a week. Housing benefit hasn't been increased, the chancellor is confused there. Self-employed people are still up a tree.


I believe the balloon animal we have as a health secretary admitted last night he couldn't live on £95 a week and yet it seems millions of self employed and agency workers will be expected to do just that.

I'm also confused by his statement on Housing Benefit, the housing allowance was supposed to cover the cheapest 30% of the local rental market, but it's been frozen since 2016, so is he saying he's going to increase it to meet that 30% of the rental market that exists today? If so, given how much rents have risen since 2016 that would be quite an increase.


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Yes, I heard him say that. Surely an admission that it should be upped regardless of the current situation.


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None of UC's problems have been resolved and money won't be forthcoming any faster. Statutory sick pay remains less than £95 a week. Housing benefit hasn't been increased, the chancellor is confused there. Self-employed people are still up a tree.

I believe the balloon animal we have as a health secretary admitted last night he couldn't live on £95 a week and yet it seems millions of self employed and agency workers will be expected to do just that.

I'm also confused by his statement on Housing Benefit, the housing allowance was supposed to cover the cheapest 30% of the local rental market, but it's been frozen since 2016, so is he saying he's going to increase it to meet that 30% of the rental market that exists today? If so, given how much rents have risen since 2016 that would be quite an increase.
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Surely an admission that it should be upped regardless of the current situation.


Well quite, I love how our 'safety net' is no longer regarded adequate when it's not just the sick, disabled and jobless having to rely on it.


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I'm off to scrape some kind of pitiful meal together from the scraps I fist fought an old woman for in Tesco car park.

They need to bring Ready Steady Cook back but instead of a price limit just have random ingredients that were left on supermarket shelves.

Let's see what Ainsley Harriott can make with some spring onions, a tin of dog food, a pack of AA batteries and a bottle of organic weedkiller.


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@sky lha -the lower of 30th percentile or the existing rent.

Of course an increase without removing the cap...


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I think that Ainsley Harriott always recommends using AAA batteries but, at a pinch, AA will be an acceptable substitute if that's all you have in the cupboard.


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From the MoneySavingExpert site.

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Local housing allowance has been frozen for several years, so today's announcement means that your local housing allowance will be brought up to whatever 30% of the market rent in your area is.


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I see now, it was 30% in 2016 but frozen since. It should be quite an increase then, but still pathetic.


Sunak's lucky. Being hailed as a statesman by some on twitter who should know better, but looking like a statesman next to Johnson's not so hard.

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Surely there must be a disregard /change in the benefit cap ,if the latter isn't changing?


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I'm at a loss to understand where, and how, people are safely storing all this toilet paper. Should we be bracing ourselves for a rash of serious toilet roll related accidents?

Seen the Daily Star?

https://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/daily-st ... page=59591

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Any expert views on outlook for remdesivir (given polymath nature of the nest collective)

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Have resisted The Vermouth.

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Online pub quiz in Newcastle also raises crowdfund for street food vendors

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I took my library books back this morning and they're closing at lunchtime tomorrow, for the duration. :(
Offered me no less than thirty if I wanted! Didn't have time to take them up on it but considering going back in the morning.
It's mostly volunteer run now.

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Sky'sGoneOut wrote:
I remember eggs. Those kinda egg shaped things weren't they? Haven't seen one in weeks. I miss eggs. Carbonara is really shit without them. Not that I have an pasta. Remember pasta?


At some point here large numbers of people are going to look through the windows of the posher food shops and shout 'WAIT A MINUTE!!' I got pasta, eggs and milk from the posh grocers near the station yesterday, they had loads.

(edit - also you remind me a bit of my dad there. "If we had some tonic you could have a gin and tonic if we had some gin.' I think it was probably a Max Miller line - 'now here's a funny thing and here is a funny thing'. We had a picture of him up in the toilet when I was growing up.)

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Did we have this yesterday? Not so much a money tree as a forest.

£2.9bn provided to free up hospital beds for coronavirus patients
Local authorities and NHS will share fund to get recovering elderly and vulnerable patients into social care

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HindleA wrote:
Surely there must be a disregard /change in the benefit cap ,if the latter isn't changing?


Who knows? Maybe women will no longer have to prove they've been raped?


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I remember eggs. Those kinda egg shaped things weren't they? Haven't seen one in weeks. I miss eggs.

We get local farm eggs, various places sell them and they also take a van to the Friday market in Stokesley, this morning they'd sold out by 10.30.

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And the "elderly & vulnerable already at home with fuck all support ?


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It works both ways,supporting in home,lessens hospital.admissions.


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And of course ,we were a case in point,fuck all problem with discharging to an already existing


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My size has something to do with it too
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A lovely song

Tiny Birds - Ariadne

(indier-than-thou enough not to be readibly available on YouTube! Link is to their BandCamp page)

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I think that Ainsley Harriott always recommends using AAA batteries but, at a pinch, AA will be an acceptable substitute if that's all you have in the cupboard.


I used to like licking 9 volt batteries to get that electric tongue tingle. Haven't had to use one in years. That's another tingle missing from my life. What they never tell you about getting older is you lose so many good tingles.


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Ah quantum physics and Dead or Alive.

I love you guys.


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They need to bring Ready Steady Cook back...


They have! It's on iPlayer.

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gilsey wrote:
I see now, it was 30% in 2016 but frozen since. It should be quite an increase then, but still pathetic.


Sunak's lucky. Being hailed as a statesman by some on twitter who should know better, but looking like a statesman next to Johnson's not so hard.
the home someone lives in is the same, the landlord gets the increase
is that correct or have I misunderstood?


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My last cat was Eric Catona, he was the stupidest cat I've ever owned or lived with, he would walk into things all the time, fall off things, be completely oblivious to the reactions of other cats resulting in multiple scraps where invariably he'd come off the worst, I genuinely think he was a bit slow...and yet he's the only cat I've had who learned to open doors by jumping up and pulling the handle and use a human toilet. And I didn't teach him either of those things.

Perhaps he was a feline savant?

Or maybe I just kept accidentally shutting him in rooms and forgetting to clean his tray.


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And the "elderly & vulnerable already at home with fuck all support ?
I know, I noticed that too.


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Eric the Cat sounds pretty ace

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gilsey wrote:
Sunak's lucky. Being hailed as a statesman by some on twitter.


Most of the twitter feeds on the subject I've perused are full of self employed people calling him a c*nt.


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Virtual 80s party. Could that work?

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John McDonnell on Newsnight bringing up the question of ESA, JSA and carers allowance.

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One local council byelection actually held yesterday:

Coventry - Labour hold with slightly over half the vote, a few points up on last year; given the overall turnout was maybe unsurprisingly shockingly low - under 10% - they will likely be happy with that. This ward has been safe for them recently but back in the 2004 all-out elections the LibDems won all three seats, narrowly losing to Labour in 2006 and 2007 but holding on in 2008, before the coalition years saw them crater as in many other places - they finished last in 2018 and since then seem to have given up completely. UKIP polled respectably in their good years and still got a decent third a year ago, their absence now likely helped the Tories advance by over 8 points as runners-up. Greens on 10%, slightly down on last time but an improvement on previous showings, not far ahead of a Socialist Alternative candidate in last place.

Originally five contests were scheduled for next week (including two "double" vacancies) but some have already been called off and the rest will surely follow.

So that is it, until......?


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Eric the Cat sounds pretty ace


He was, a good natured big soft lump.


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I'm obsessive compulsive and it's saving lives.


Well cJA, if you read and understood what I wrote at 6.37, as I'm sure you (for one) did, it might save your life, and perhaps those of a few close to you too...


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I'm obsessive compulsive and it's saving lives.


Well cJA, if you read and understood what I wrote at 6.37, as I'm sure you (for one) did, it might save your life, and perhaps those of a few close to you too...


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Kirsty Wark on Newsnight pointing out that Tobias Ellwood sounded like a Labour politician.

I listened to an interview earlier this week with a professor of politics (I think from York university?) who was saying that the rise of populism since the 2008 crash has actually frightened even those who took advantage of it and if this time round help wasn't given to ordinary people they fear genuine civil unrest. They are in effect afraid of their own voters. So while it could be true that Tory Mps like Mr Ellwood (and admittedly he's one of the better ones) have taken a lurch to the left as a result of this crisis, it's also possible that they're simply shitting themselves which would be unfortunate given the lack of toilet paper.


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John McDonnell on Newsnight bringing up the question of ESA, JSA and carers allowance.
Good man.

Dear Sky , naturally I agree with you on John McD , but how does all th))is and that compare with Multiple DEATHS and DISRUPTION coming down the pike ? (( SEE ITALY, OK ? ))
Give it a few more days, and you will know what I'm talking about tonight .
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Sky'sGoneOut wrote:
Kirsty Wark on Newsnight pointing out that Tobias Ellwood sounded like a Labour politician.

I listened to an interview earlier this week with a professor of politics (I think from York university?) who was saying that the rise of populism since the 2008 crash has actually frightened even those who took advantage of it and if this time round help wasn't given to ordinary people they fear genuine civil unrest. They are in effect afraid of their own voters. So while it could be true that Tory Mps like Mr Ellwood (and admittedly he's one of the better ones) have taken a lurch to the left as a result of this crisis, it's also possible that they're simply shitting themselves which would be unfortunate given the lack of toilet paper.


I had Tobias Ellwood down as destined for big things a while back. He was everywhere. Then came Boris Johnson and TE disappeared. Or was made to disappear. He's back in view again, is he? Interesting . . .


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citizenJA wrote:
the home someone lives in is the same, the landlord gets the increase is that correct or have I misunderstood?


It depends, because I have a decent landlord and live in a glorified bedsit my rent is currently below the housing allowance limit and he agreed to claim it was above it so I get to keep the difference. To take full advantage of this rise I'll have to persuade him to immediately tell the council he's raised my rent to above the new level which will make him look like a massive profiteering wanker. This may prove difficult.

But for most people if they were using some of their UC, JSA, ESA whatever, to top up the housing allowance to meet the rent then they'll either no longer have to do that or they'll have to contribute less.

So basically unless all landlords decide to be massive profiteering wankers a lot of people are going to be a little better off.

And a little can go a long way when you've got fuck all to begin with.


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