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So how many people will/have they generously made liable to the benefit cap?


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1350 in ICU this mornin, must fill in the form in case of gendarme !

Most of it in thick felt tip, so can be read at a certain distance … by said gendarme with no mask, and bare hands.

Don’t even know if the market is open, but can get gardening fuel and will see if the shops are not too crowded

Already have tomato seeds , and sowing/potting composts .

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 15576.html
Great map of Trump quotes and infection rates.

The world as run according to the worst case scenarios of Dunning-Kruger.

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So how many people will/have they generously made liable to the benefit cap?

I was thinking this morning that it's quite possible that Rishi Sunak didn't know what the benefit cap was.

I've put that in the past tense because surely his civil servants will have explained it to him by now?

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Trump and Johnson want to be President/PM for the good times, this isn't what they had in mind and they're very bad at it.

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Does the ghastly Therese Coffey even know what the benefit cap is?

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Morning all.

Well, shopping was as expected - lots of empty shelves in Sainsburys, most things bought OK plus a few more in M&S which was far more civilised. Quite a few packets of toilet rolls in M&S but absolutely none in Sainsburys.

I see that Brendon O'Fuckwit has written his usual piece of edgy, libertarian, contrarian nonsense..which The Spectator obligingly published.

https://twitter.com/SpecCoffeeHouse/sta ... 5130569731

If it helps to make both look utterly ridiculous to more people then so much the better.

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Boris Johnson doesn't behave like a Prime Minister but like a very bad MC.


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Also known as: a couple more days in March

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So how many people will/have they generously made liable to the benefit cap?
I ain't seen no benefit since I don't know when

edited because on further reflection, my flippant response made me wince. I'm sorry.


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Good morning, everyone.
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No gendarme !

Veg meat cheese fish market sparsely attended, several with bandit scarves covering mouths.

"Security Distance" lines painted on the tarmac in the town square and also in the nearby cattle market, a meter apart , FAR TOO CLOSE !

Fortunately I had two fivers and a tenner in the house ( in small notes ), and the launderette in town was open, so I bought a €1 packet of soap powder and now have €19 in coins .

BECAUSE ---->

it hasn't quite sunk in that the fucking virus can lurk in ambush everywhere, so I adjusted my purchases close to a round figure, and then refused centimes of change .

The supermarket up the hill looked too full , so gave that a miss . Further on the expensive smokehouse shop was empty, so that was much less risky for very classy traditional ham.

I got some salad plants, spuds carrots onions, celeriac&apple for grating, now for some 'gardening' !

Oh, hotels being requisitioned for the homeless ....

https://www.liberation.fr/direct/coronavirus_388/

and a bit on the English After Dinner Speaker FINALLY pulling his finger out ...


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Disappointed you can't go to a Wetherspoons. Create the experience at home by drinking beer that's warm, eating a burger made from cardboard, putting a Bernard Manning DVD on in the background and threatening yourself with a knife after six pints
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Boris Johnson doesn't behave like a Prime Minister but like a very bad MC.

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Afternoon.

So, more from those shameless left wingers. COVID-19 again.



It's actually informative and, in places, entertaining.


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Something else altogether:



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Trump and Johnson want to be President/PM for the good times, this isn't what they had in mind and they're very bad at it.


Though in actual fact (and it slightly surprises me) Trump is now handling things the better of the two.

Definite sense of horses and stable doors being left open, though.


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That's probably because Trump isn't actually handling anything anymore. The contrast between what he's reading off the autocue and what he's saying off the cuff is growing by the day whereas Johnson's muddled announcements are still tallying depressingly closely to the UK's muddled response.

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Morning all.

Well, shopping was as expected - lots of empty shelves in Sainsburys, most things bought OK plus a few more in M&S which was far more civilised. Quite a few packets of toilet rolls in M&S but absolutely none in Sainsburys.

I see that Brendon O'Fuckwit has written his usual piece of edgy, libertarian, contrarian nonsense..which The Spectator obligingly published.

https://twitter.com/SpecCoffeeHouse/sta ... 5130569731

If it helps to make both look utterly ridiculous to more people then so much the better.
He likes attention, any attention at all.


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Well, the "attention" he is getting for that is near universal derision.


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Doing some Pet Shop Boys to keep spirits up
:dance: :dance: :dance:

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Doing some Pet Shop Boys to keep spirits up
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Not everyone’s cup of tea I know.


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And the description of "North Korean" for shutting the pubs - in the actual DPRK it is widely reported people suspected of having the virus are being summarily despatched.

(still officially no cases there btw - same applies to Burma, Libya, Syria and Yemen. Hmmmm)


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That's probably because Trump isn't actually handling anything anymore. The contrast between what he's reading off the autocue and what he's saying off the cuff is growing by the day whereas Johnson's muddled announcements are still tallying depressingly closely to the UK's muddled response.
Good assessment. There are differences between the counties' emergency response infrastructure and political systems. Trump is more or less submitting. The US has more scope for legitimate and responsible leadership filling in. Like from US state governors, for example. US federal emergency response infrastructure is functional and may also provide enough effective leadership Trump can't give. The UK is more vulnerable. The UK is very centrally governed from Westminster.


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I'm not saying the US isn't hampered by Trump's irrational presidency. US presidential authority is huge. I mean Trump seems to be signing the orders state governors submit to him. That releases resource reservoirs.


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State governors have the authority to requisition necessary supplies during times of crisis.


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I've learned a lot about how the EU functions. There are many similarities between the US and the EU as trade, social and political entities.


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I'm frightened by the official confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths reported within European countries.
The UK has fewer confirmed COVID-19 cases and many more confirmed COVID-19 deaths than other nations.
Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding the reading of this data.

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tinyclanger2 wrote:
Doing some Pet Shop Boys to keep spirits up
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Not one of their more chirpy ones, admittedly.


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Teabags now seem to be in short supply. Will the Government get a grip? The situation, far from being under control, is spiralling.


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Just a reminder !

I want to know how long the evil viruses last on other materials, such as shirtsleeves, the paper on foodtins, and why not .................. human hands too !

That cardboard egg carton is on a 'table' I installed outside the door . Everything goes there that has been touched by other people .

March 17, 2020 Source:
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New research finds that the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is stable for several hours to days in aerosols and on surfaces. Scientists found that severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was detectable in aerosols for up to three hours, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.

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Still no sign of these "plentiful supplies" of protective equipment for NHS staff.


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Anyone know anything about development vis a vis favilavier (Avigan ) ?

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Teabags now seem to be in short supply. Will the Government get a grip? The situation, far from being under control, is spiralling.


A lot of pet stores are out of cat litter, yet Amazon appear to have plenty, all at twice the price, of course. If shops can't keep stocks up because the spivs are cleaning them out to make a profit selling them on I think the government will have to intervene.
Or if it's lack of supply that's keeping the shelves bare then again the government has to step in. There are also people who usually eat out who are now also going to have to get stuff from the shops to make at home so it may well get worse before it gets better.
I have to go shopping tomorrow. My husband went last time so I haven't experienced it yet. I hope it's not too bad. :(

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Just a reminder !

I want to know how long the evil viruses last on other materials, such as shirtsleeves, the paper on foodtins, and why not .................. human hands too !

That cardboard egg carton is on a 'table' I installed outside the door . Everything goes there that has been touched by other people .

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https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/new-coronavirus-stable-hours-surfaces
Many thank to you and GetYou for your reminders regarding safely securing and storing provisions and ourselves at home after excursions. When I came home, I left clothes & provisions on the ground in the hall and carefully washed my hands and put other garments on. Using clean rubber gloves, I washed all bags and washable provisions and placed them in quarantine area. Washed rubber gloves, washed hands, washed rubber gloves put them back on, everything worn outside into the washing machine. Washed rubber gloves, washed hands, washed rubber gloves put them back on, things unsuitable for washing were placed in quarantine out of the way for three days before being touched or used. The taps, door handles, cupboards, washing machine, containers of soap and anything else used for these procedures had no contact with potentially contaminated surfaces, were carefully washed, sterilised or placed into quarantine before human contact took place.


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I worked for a woman with health difficulties and she had severe allergic reaction to fragrances, certain chemicals and products. The best thing was non-exposure to contamination in the first place. She taught me a lot. While I didn't suffer the reactions she had, she explained so well and I cared for her so much it helped me know how to protect her and myself. Other care workers couldn't work with her. That's not uncommon. Getting the right care worker for people is important.


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I worked for a woman with health difficulties and she had severe allergic reaction to fragrances, certain chemicals and products. The best thing was non-exposure to contamination in the first place. She taught me a lot. While I didn't suffer the reactions she had, she explained so well and I cared for her so much it helped me know how to protect her and myself. Other care workers couldn't work with her. That's not uncommon. Getting the right care worker for people is important.

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NEVER trust a billionaire ( cont p 92 )

“” Bloomberg had promised staffers when they were hired that they would be paid until November, but earlier this month most of his campaign team was told they had been let go and would be paid until the end of March. “”

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Anyone think we’ve (fundamentally) not really moved on much from gladiators and that?
Caste/class/right to stay alive etc

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I have to go shopping tomorrow. My husband went last time so I haven't experienced it yet. I hope it's not too bad. :(

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