FlyTheNest

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 10:47 pm**

Corona virus spread: where does the responsibility lie for it having got to this stage and can we (ffs) start holding global governance to account?

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 10:59 pm**

Johnson's 'starkest warning to the nation yet about what is coming'.
In the Sunday Telegraph.
Too busy writing that to turn up for the official press conference.
Don't visit your mother. Of course everyone reads the Sunday Telegraph before they go out.

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Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:01 pm**

1) where did it start?
2) how did it behave vis a vis animal-human-human infection?
3) what fatalities arose?
4) given SARS and MERS what were the MASSIVE OBVIOUS DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF INTERSPECIES* TRANSMISSION?
5) Given 4) above, how come international meetings and travel were not spotted in DECEMBER?

*Yeah sorry and once in human populations INTRA

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:02 pm**

Is it because maybe there are no adults left?
Guardian: Godon Brown - discuss

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:04 pm**

Seen this piece?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:04 pm**

Autumn is here and they’re burning the heather (PSB)

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:06 pm**

gilsey wrote:Seen this piece?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Quite. World (“democracy”) run by a bunch of kids.

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:08 pm**

I've broken the Interweb !

AGAIN .

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:09 pm**

Yes - looks like I have, too.

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:11 pm**

I’m from Manchester. So is the Guaridan.
Only history will tell role how (the role of Guardian) in Brown’s Downfall influenced TODAY.

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:15 pm**

PF: sorry for grammatical etc errors

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:27 pm**

tinyclanger2 wrote:PF: sorry for grammatical etc errors

In Puerto Rico they have learned after the devastating Hurricane Maria when the supermarkets were also emptied by panickers.

This week, the oldies have priority when the shelves are filled .

Posted: **Sat 21 Mar, 2020 11:33 pm**

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Main ... rTabby.jpg

Not a photograph of Constance, but it could well be in almost all respects - she's a bit squarer in the face\head department.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 6:12 am**

gilsey wrote:Seen this piece?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good piece - thanks

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 8:18 am**

PorFavor wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Main ... rTabby.jpg

Not a photograph of Constance, but it could well be in almost all respects - she's a bit squarer in the face\head department.

Very upstairs-looking cat

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 8:34 am**

Purple Sprouting Broccoli?

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 8:37 am**

adam wrote:Purple Sprouting Broccoli?

No, thanks. I've just had some.

(Public Sector Borrowing? As you can probably tell, I feel I'm missing something here . . .)

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 8:42 am**

He’s talking about heather

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 8:57 am**

If you’re following the science:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... huitemaker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 9:03 am**

tinyclanger2 wrote:Anyone think we’ve (fundamentally) not really moved on much from gladiators and that?
Caste/class/right to stay alive etc

I notice aspects of feudalism in our contemporary society.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 9:16 am**

PorFavor wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Main ... rTabby.jpg

Not a photograph of Constance, but it could well be in almost all respects - she's a bit squarer in the face\head department.

I recognised her at once.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 9:45 am**

tinyclanger2 wrote:If you’re following the science:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... huitemaker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A safe and effective vaccine will take time; a year and a half, maybe

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 9:59 am**

Yes - hopefully antivirals for treatment of the sick could be quicker at least ....

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:00 am**

Yes feudalism is probably a better term

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:19 am**

Morning all.

This is being widely shared on that Twitter.

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Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:23 am**

Jim Pickard
@PickardJE
should add this Downing Street spokesman reaction:

“This is a highly defamatory fabrication which was not put to No10 by the Sunday Times before publication. The article also includes a series of apparent quotes from meetings which are invented.”

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:24 am**

'Highly defamatory' is a bit strong, guess it's true then.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:25 am**

"Is our prime minister, Boris Piccaninny Watermelon Letterbox Cake Bumboys Vampires Haircut Wall-Spaffer Spunk-Burster Fuck-Business Fuck-the-Families Get-Off-My-Fucking-Laptop Girly-Swot Big-Girl’s-Blouse Chicken-frit Hulk-Smash Noseringed-Crusties Death-Humbug Technology-Lessons Surrender-Bullshit French-Turds Dog-Whistle Get-Stuffed FactcheckUK@CCHQ 88%-lies Get-Brexit-Done Bung-a-Bob-for-Big-Ben’s-Bongs Cocaine-Event Spiritual-Worth Three-Men-and-a-Dog Whatever-It-Takes Johnson, up to the coronavirus crisis? Or will he be to Covid-19 what the swiftly substituted Neville Chamberlain was to the second world war, remembered only for the futile statement: “I have in my hand a piece of toilet paper!”'

Stewart Lee

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:33 am**

tinyclanger2 wrote:Yes feudalism is probably a better term

I gave it considerable thought prior responding. I'm not as knowledgable about the gladiatorial era mentioned in your post yesterday. Your suggestion is probably just as apt.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:35 am**

'Disaster waiting to happen': visitors flock to Skegness

Scottish government 'furious' at travellers to Highlands and Islands

There was a similar one about Cornwall last week.

I think Norway have banned people from going to their country cabins.

It occurred to me yesterday that living on a Scottish island might not keep my sister & BIL away from the virus, half the houses are second homes.
We're not going to Whitby however nice the weather is.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:51 am**

gilsey wrote:'Disaster waiting to happen': visitors flock to Skegness

Scottish government 'furious' at travellers to Highlands and Islands

There was a similar one about Cornwall last week.

I think Norway have banned people from going to their country cabins.

It occurred to me yesterday that living on a Scottish island might not keep my sister & BIL away from the virus, half the houses are second homes.
We're not going to Whitby however nice the weather is.

I don't understand what people are thinking. This isn't a television program; it's a global pandemic happening for real.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:54 am**

Defamatory Times article below this one--

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/10 ... s-approach" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Times —

http://www.thegwpf.com/inside-no-10-ten ... -for-ever/

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:57 am**

I've just received an e-mail from Virgin Media (addressed to all customers) which is headed:

An update about our call centres
We’re now prioritising calls for vulnerable customers.

There's nothing in the rest of the e-mail that explains how they know which customers are "vulnerable ".

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:58 am**

frog222 wrote:Defamatory Times article below this one--

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/10 ... s-approach" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Times —

http://www.thegwpf.com/inside-no-10-ten ... -for-ever/

You don't need the URL tags, just post the link in the message.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 10:59 am**

PorFavor wrote:I've just received an e-mail from Virgin Media (addressed to all customers) which is headed:

An update about our call centres
We’re now prioritising calls for vulnerable customers.
There's nothing in the rest of the e-mail that explains how they know which customers are "vulnerable ".

I think they'll have age and household information they can use for this.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 11:07 am**

citizenJA wrote:I don't understand what people are thinking. This isn't a television program; it's a global pandemic happening for real.

They voted for Brexit too.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 11:14 am**

gilsey wrote:
citizenJA wrote:I don't understand what people are thinking. This isn't a television program; it's a global pandemic happening for real.
They voted for Brexit too.

Boris Johnson still publicly insisting that "Brexit" will run to schedule. Normal people would say, when asked about it, that there are more urgent things going on at the moment and that "Brexit" isn't really important now. Dangerous prat.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 11:29 am**

frog222 wrote:Defamatory Times article below this one--

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/10 ... s-approach" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Times —

http://www.thegwpf.com/inside-no-10-ten ... -for-ever/

Even the massive economic package for workers and businesses eventually delivered by Sunak on Friday is not complete. There is a growing Tory backbench rebellion on the lack of measures aimed at self-employed people. MPs expect Sunak to have to “go further” once again next week to protect the self-employed.

People jeering at John McDonnell for saying exactly this the other day need to take a good hard look at themselves...

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 11:46 am**

Becoming increasingly clear that Cummings is going to be made the fall guy for the coming disaster.

Don't get me wrong it really couldn't happen to a nicer guy, but things can't stop there.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 11:52 am**

refitman wrote:
PorFavor wrote:I've just received an e-mail from Virgin Media (addressed to all customers) which is headed:

An update about our call centres
We’re now prioritising calls for vulnerable customers.
There's nothing in the rest of the e-mail that explains how they know which customers are "vulnerable ".
I think they'll have age and household information they can use for this.

Yes - but to assume that all their "vulnerable" customers know\guess this is no way to reassure them.

Edited - to make some semblance of sense.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 12:03 pm**

My next-door neighbour is diligently mowing my back garden for me.

We have nothing whatsoever in common (England flag in garden etc) but they're kind to me. We generally just wave. They get to grow stuff in my garden. It works out well for both parties involved, I think.

Edited - what a load of typos

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 12:17 pm**

PorFavor wrote:
gilsey wrote:
citizenJA wrote:I don't understand what people are thinking. This isn't a television program; it's a global pandemic happening for real.
They voted for Brexit too.
Boris Johnson still publicly insisting that "Brexit" will run to schedule. Normal people would say, when asked about it, that there are more urgent things going on at the moment and that "Brexit" isn't really important now. Dangerous prat.

I suspect that at some point the EU will say to us...

Three options, no discussion

1. Defer - lets say another year for the moment and wait and see (preferred option)
2. Deal on very close association terms, regulatory harmonisation, ECJ, wide ranging FTA
3. Nothing, you just leave.

Choose.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 12:20 pm**

The private view on both sides now is that an extension is inevitable. Johnson may claim otherwise, but he might not even still be PM at the end of this year.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 12:28 pm**

I very much doubt that Johnson is enjoying his time as PM - not at all how he thought it would pan out.

Reminds me a bit after the riots when he (finally, after he got back from hols) went to see what went on.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 12:34 pm**

‘Corbynism without Corbyn’ will destroy Labour, says Wes Streeting

A Labour party that espouses “Corbynism without Corbyn” risks disappearing from the political map, a Labour MP has warned.

In a new pamphlet with the Fabian Society, Wes Streeting, an MP on the right of the party who has been a persistent critic of Jeremy Corbyn, urges the party to leave the current leader’s legacy behind to give it a chance of regaining mainstream public support. (Observer)

What? Now?

Well, there's someone who doesn't know what's going on - or when to give up, or shut up.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -streeting

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 12:45 pm**

A pamphlet that was written a significant time ago, almost certainly. Events and all that, dear boy.......

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 12:51 pm**

gilsey wrote:
citizenJA wrote:I don't understand what people are thinking. This isn't a television program; it's a global pandemic happening for real.
They voted for Brexit too.

And for Johnson, the one who told them he'd make all annoying stuff go away
I'm not being condescending or patronising but posting my observations
People think they pick/purchase/vote for something it'll function exactly like it said it would regardless of it's irrationality
Will people try returning their choice at the market for a refund or exchange?

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 12:52 pm**

PorFavor wrote:My next-door neighbour is diligently mowing my back garden for me.
We have nothing whatsoever in common (England flag in garden etc) but they're kind to me. We generally just wave. They get to grow stuff in my garden. It works out well for both parties involved, I think.
Edited - what a load of typos

Ten days ago my new farmer neighbor wasn't going to revive the veg patch, as he had so much else to do ... yesterday he attacked it with his tractor and cultivator !
Still a bit cold for germination outside, but after the R4 News I'l see if my ancient rotovator will start .

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 1:01 pm**

I thought self isolation would reasonably simple. I've been out shopping, of course I have, but it would be better if I didn't.

Priority for our existing customers

We're very sorry but due to the exceptionally high level of demand we are temporarily prioritising deliveries for our existing customers. As a result, we are unable to offer you a delivery slot at the moment. Unfortunately, new customer bookings will not be processed.

We apologise for any disappointment. We are working hard to increase our delivery capacity and we will contact you as soon as the situation changes. Thank you for considering Ocado.

I'll try the others but I'm expecting similar responses.

All due to human idiocy and selfishness - and not to a virus.

Also: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 13971.html

When I was a child we moved from Northamptonshire to Altrincham (South Manchester). For various reasons, including my accent, the kids at my new school thought was I weird and told me I was a Martian.

I am signalling my people. I am going home.

Sometimes I wish I could.

Afternoon everyone and apologies for the rant.

Posted: **Sun 22 Mar, 2020 1:17 pm**

RogerOThornhill wrote:
frog222 wrote:Defamatory Times article below this one--

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/10 ... s-approach" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Times —

http://www.thegwpf.com/inside-no-10-ten ... -for-ever/

Even the massive economic package for workers and businesses eventually delivered by Sunak on Friday is not complete. There is a growing Tory backbench rebellion on the lack of measures aimed at self-employed people. MPs expect Sunak to have to “go further” once again next week to protect the self-employed.
People jeering at John McDonnell for saying exactly this the other day need to take a good hard look at themselves...

Even John McDonnell isn't saying much about the unemployed, how come we only realise how inadequate social security is when the self-employed are screaming blue murder about having to rely on it?

PTO

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