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 Post subject: Monday 23 March 2020
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"Jour !"
Wind still in the east, so no rain, and it's warmed up to 5.5° .
Target to get back to Digging for Victory is 10 o clock.
Sweet bit of news amidst the gloom -- https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr ... 02976.html
They robbed a food bank in the night and couldn't carry away all the food and loo roll, so went back for the rest ... and met the Police !
As the manager said "They only had to ask ..."


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Ben Jennings' cartoon from the Guardian (or Observer?). Yesterday, anyway. I think.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2020/mar/22/ben-jennings-on-boris-johnsons-response-to-the-coronavirus-cartoon


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Or today, I'm now hearing (the cartoon).


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Essential travel does not include visits to second homes, camp sites, caravan parks or similar, whether for isolation purposes or holidays. People should remain in their primary residence. Not taking these steps puts additional pressure on communities and services that are already at risk.

Some friends/relatives of our neighbour rocked up next door yesterday in a caravan, it's parked on the drive.

Neighbour's teenage son has cystic fibrosis. Although to be fair I'm not sure he's there, he has regular in-patient treatment. But still.

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I see our Conservative govt has nationalised the railways this morning.

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In what would normally be a HUGE story, Britain is suspending its rail franchise system.

The Department for Transport has announced that the franchise agreements to run trains across the UK will be suspended for six months, in response to the slump in demand due to the coronavirus.

Instead of taking revenue from rail operators, the DfT will now pay train companies a small fee to keep operating some services (which are being severely cut back, due to weaker demand).

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Morning all.

This is interesting from Dave Hill

https://www.onlondon.co.uk/coronavirus- ... esilience/

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Morning all.

This is interesting from Dave Hill

https://www.onlondon.co.uk/coronavirus- ... esilience/

Grenfell exposed Kensington & Chelsea's emergency planning as a farce, they just hadn't done any.
I hope the lesson's been learnt.

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What the fuck is wrong with some people?

Coronavirus Kent: Six ambulances have holes drilled in tyres in overnight attack in Ramsgate

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/new ... n8kvuriUUo

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Paramedics on the frontline of the fight against coronavirus arrived at work to find holes drilled in the tyres of six ambulances.

The vehicles were taken off the road after the damage was discovered at a vehicle preparation centre in Ramsgate shortly after 7am today.


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Morning all.

This is interesting from Dave Hill

https://www.onlondon.co.uk/coronavirus- ... esilience/


My mum's a parish councillor, so I can confirm this is happening to a degree at every level, with emergency planning meetings etc (by Skype, I should add) to assess potential issues and how they might be resolved in readiness. These people are volunteers, they don't get paid, but their knowledge of local services and people could be vital in ensuring everyone can access help when they need it, especially in more rural areas.

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Bless all those confidently asserting that going for the initial two years was just a negotiating ploy to get the six months

As if we had a rational approach to government policy

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Govt will introduce a 6 month renewal clause to the emergency powers it is seeking in the Coronavirus bill.
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I found this to be equally interesting and disturbing:

https://twitter.com/atatimelikethis/status/1241091002871545863

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Many know UKGov for 2 months had a "Herd Immunity" [HI] plan for #Covid_19. now changed.
This plan was bad science, and NOT due to modelling.
The result, even with the change of strategy will be ~500,000 needless deaths.
I'm proposing now a theory of how it happened...


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Govt will introduce a 6 month renewal clause to the emergency powers it is seeking in the Coronavirus bill.
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Down from the original two years, which looked to many like a more general power grab.


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 Post subject: Re: Monday 23 March 2020
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Bless all those confidently asserting that going for the initial two years was just a negotiating ploy to get the six months

As if we had a rational approach to government policy

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I found this to be equally interesting and disturbing:
https://twitter.com/atatimelikethis/status/1241091002871545863
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Many know UKGov for 2 months had a "Herd Immunity" [HI] plan for #Covid_19. now changed.
This plan was bad science, and NOT due to modelling.
The result, even with the change of strategy will be ~500,000 needless deaths.
I'm proposing now a theory of how it happened...

I only scanned these articles on the government individuals involved in the HI Plan, and then the change of heart by some , but here they are for more careful reading--

Wickham --

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/10 ... s-approach

and Shippers in The Sunday Times —

http://www.thegwpf.com/inside-no-10-ten ... -for-ever/


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What the fuck is wrong with some people?

Coronavirus Kent: Six ambulances have holes drilled in tyres in overnight attack in Ramsgate

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/new ... n8kvuriUUo
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Paramedics on the frontline of the fight against coronavirus arrived at work to find holes drilled in the tyres of six ambulances.

The vehicles were taken off the road after the damage was discovered at a vehicle preparation centre in Ramsgate shortly after 7am today.

:wall:
urban yet village-like location here
I'm concerned by increased and persistent reckless private-use motor vehicles operation
Sounds like kids with stolen cars around here heard on several different occasions
It's atypical, not like this during other unexpected quiet times


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Bless all those confidently asserting that going for the initial two years was just a negotiating ploy to get the six months

As if we had a rational approach to government policy


Not repeating yourself here, are you ;)


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I'd be more comfortable if I knew for certain government were merely careless and not actively malicious
I'm uncertain which it is right now
Might be both


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Yes - good time to be trying to get away with pulling a fast one knowing that the likelihood of that would be causing people to have to waste time and effort in averting it. Very responsible. Not the time for farting around like that, surely?

Edited - style, not meaning. I just couldn't let it stand as it was.


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He [the Downing Street spokesman] said that, if Boris Johnson were to fall ill from coronavirus and be unable to carry out his duties, Dominic Raab, the foreign secretary and first secretary of state, would take over. (Politics Live, Guardian)


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He [the Downing Street spokesman] said that, if Boris Johnson were to fall ill from coronavirus and be unable to carry out his duties, Dominic Raab, the foreign secretary and first secretary of state, would take over. (Politics Live, Guardian)


Oh, what joy.


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At first glance, I thought you were exhorting us to love Dominic Raab. Panic over.


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You can get everything eventually, the problem is you have to go out much more often and to more shops in order to do it - sort of the exact opposite of what you should be doing, unfortunately.

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... le-at-risk


As do selfish cunts coming to close to you when you are trying to keep your distance.


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Made vulnerable of course by Societal and Government inaction .If the past/current had been adequate there would no need for any suspensions.


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Alex Salmond acquitted on all but one charge against him (which was a "not proven" verdict)

The fallout from this could be quite big.


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Wow. Now Tory MP Steve Double says "many people that we consider to be low skilled are actually pretty crucial to the smooth running of our country". Calls on Priti Patel to review the new points-based immigration system "to reflect the things we've learnt during this time".

3:34 PM - 23 Mar 2020


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Wow. Now Tory MP Steve Double says "many people that we consider to be low skilled are actually pretty crucial to the smooth running of our country". Calls on Priti Patel to review the new points-based immigration system "to reflect the things we've learnt during this time".

3:34 PM - 23 Mar 2020

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"learnt what utter twats we were"
This Tory dude told everyone he knows good from bad. He can't tweet once and let it ride. He's got a lot of work to do.


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Woohoo ! I cut down the tree shading my Dig for Victory garden, and finished splitting the logs just as it got dark . Also potted the various lettuce 'blocks' while I prepare the soil.
I've got an American book "The Victory Garden" , but it's of later date .

I hear that de Pfeffel is ""Addressing the Nation"" at 8.30 .

Surely that's a bit early for an 'After Dinner Speech' ?

I mean he made his name, and a lot of £££'s, when the audience was at LEAST half-cut .

OK, Will he avoid making anything remotely ressembling a JOKE tonight ?

Up to now he's managed to at least interject some ad-libbing , will his minders finally have him under control ?

Those dog-training collars which give them electric shocks spring to mind .


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Are there flights still available for UK nationals getting back to the UK?


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A responsible government should have introduced rationing asap.I'm having to self arrange grocery stores keeping essential goods.


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Are there flights still available for UK nationals getting back to the UK?

YOU ARE JOKING ;)

The UK government tells you to take commercial flights, of which there are ................... NONE .

Too fucking incompetent/mean /undecided to charter any of the hundreds of planes now grou
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Are there flights still available for UK nationals getting back to the UK?

YOU ARE JOKING ;)

The UK government tells you to take commercial flights, of which there are ................... NONE .

Too fucking incompetent/mean /undecided to charter any of the hundreds of planes now grou
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I didn't think so.


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Further a secure/safe delivery system of these goods .As evert it is s is the people that need them with less options rather than selfish grabbing bastards puttiing others at risk,that suffer.I.habeno truck with "making"GB proud on reliance of voluntary activity.


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Brother (at risk)group stuck in own home in Brussels,must be bored he actually 'phoned me.


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A responsible government should have introduced rationing asap.I'm having to self arrange grocery stores keeping essential goods.
Yeah, getting food and other essentials has been a nerve-wracking business


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Brother (at risk)group stuck in own home in Brussels,must be bored he actually 'phoned me.
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Are there flights still available for UK nationals getting back to the UK?

YOU ARE JOKING ;)

The UK government tells you to take commercial flights, of which there are ................... NONE .

Too fucking incompetent/mean /undecided to charter any of the hundreds of planes now grou
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I didn't think so.
BUT, now you do !
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HindleA wrote:
Further a secure/safe delivery system of these goods .As evert it is s is the people that need them with less options rather than selfish grabbing bastards puttiing others at risk,that suffer.I.habeno truck with "making"GB proud on reliance of voluntary activity.
Wholeheartedly agree. The citizen household doesn't keep a motor vehicle or multiple freezers. We're not alone in that. A third of all residents in our region don't own motor vehicles and rely on public transportation. The shop around the corner was thankfully better stocked today and greater protections evident but it's a little place. Maintaining a yard or two distance from others difficult. Sainsbury's website crashed. No openings for delivery or for pay and pick up. I'd be fine with pay and pick up. No openings to do so.


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