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Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 5:56 am
by tinyclanger2
Day
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 8:37 am
by frog222
tinyclanger2 wrote:Day
"Jour !"
Wind still in the east, so no rain, and it's warmed up to 5.5° .
Target to get back to Digging for Victory is 10 o clock.
Sweet bit of news amidst the gloom --
https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr ... 02976.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
They robbed a food bank in the night and couldn't carry away all the food and loo roll, so went back for the rest ... and met the Police !
As the manager said "They only had to ask ..."
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:32 am
by PorFavor
Morfters.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:43 am
by PorFavor
Ben Jennings' cartoon from the Guardian (or Observer?). Yesterday, anyway. I think.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... us-cartoon
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 10:23 am
by PorFavor
Or today, I'm now hearing (the cartoon).
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 10:28 am
by gilsey
Essential travel does not include visits to second homes, camp sites, caravan parks or similar, whether for isolation purposes or holidays. People should remain in their primary residence. Not taking these steps puts additional pressure on communities and services that are already at risk.
Some friends/relatives of our neighbour rocked up next door yesterday in a caravan, it's parked on the drive.
Neighbour's teenage son has cystic fibrosis. Although to be fair I'm not sure he's there, he has regular in-patient treatment. But still.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 10:31 am
by gilsey
I see our Conservative govt has nationalised the railways this morning.
In what would normally be a HUGE story, Britain is suspending its rail franchise system.
The Department for Transport has announced that the franchise agreements to run trains across the UK will be suspended for six months, in response to the slump in demand due to the coronavirus.
Instead of taking revenue from rail operators, the DfT will now pay train companies a small fee to keep operating some services (which are being severely cut back, due to weaker demand).
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 10:38 am
by RogerOThornhill
Morning all.
This is interesting from Dave Hill
https://www.onlondon.co.uk/coronavirus- ... esilience/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 10:46 am
by gilsey
Grenfell exposed Kensington & Chelsea's emergency planning as a farce, they just hadn't done any.
I hope the lesson's been learnt.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 10:58 am
by RogerOThornhill
What the fuck is wrong with some people?
Coronavirus Kent: Six ambulances have holes drilled in tyres in overnight attack in Ramsgate
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/new ... n8kvuriUUo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Paramedics on the frontline of the fight against coronavirus arrived at work to find holes drilled in the tyres of six ambulances.
The vehicles were taken off the road after the damage was discovered at a vehicle preparation centre in Ramsgate shortly after 7am today.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 10:59 am
by Willow904
My mum's a parish councillor, so I can confirm this is happening to a degree at every level, with emergency planning meetings etc (by Skype, I should add) to assess potential issues and how they might be resolved in readiness. These people are volunteers, they don't get paid, but their knowledge of local services and people could be vital in ensuring everyone can access help when they need it, especially in more rural areas.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 11:01 am
by gilsey
David Allen Green
@davidallengreen
Bless all those confidently asserting that going for the initial two years was just a negotiating ploy to get the six months
As if we had a rational approach to government policy
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 11:28 am
by citizenJA
Good morning, everyone.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 11:29 am
by PorFavor
norman smith
✔
@BBCNormanS
Govt will introduce a 6 month renewal clause to the emergency powers it is seeking in the Coronavirus bill.
106
7:41 AM - Mar 23, 2020 (Politics Live, Guardian)
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 11:41 am
by GetYou
I found this to be equally interesting and disturbing:
https://twitter.com/atatimelikethis/sta ... 2871545863
Many know UKGov for 2 months had a "Herd Immunity" [HI] plan for #Covid_19. now changed.
This plan was bad science, and NOT due to modelling.
The result, even with the change of strategy will be ~500,000 needless deaths.
I'm proposing now a theory of how it happened...
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 12:07 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
PorFavor wrote:
norman smith
✔
@BBCNormanS
Govt will introduce a 6 month renewal clause to the emergency powers it is seeking in the Coronavirus bill.
106
7:41 AM - Mar 23, 2020 (Politics Live, Guardian)
Down from the original two years, which looked to many like a more general power grab.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 12:34 pm
by gilsey
gilsey wrote:David Allen Green
@davidallengreen
Bless all those confidently asserting that going for the initial two years was just a negotiating ploy to get the six months
As if we had a rational approach to government policy
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 12:43 pm
by frog222
GetYou wrote:I found this to be equally interesting and disturbing:
https://twitter.com/atatimelikethis/sta ... 2871545863
Many know UKGov for 2 months had a "Herd Immunity" [HI] plan for #Covid_19. now changed.
This plan was bad science, and NOT due to modelling.
The result, even with the change of strategy will be ~500,000 needless deaths.
I'm proposing now a theory of how it happened...
I only scanned these articles on the government individuals involved in the HI Plan, and then the change of heart by some , but here they are for more careful reading--
Wickham --
https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/10 ... s-approach" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and Shippers in The Sunday Times —
http://www.thegwpf.com/inside-no-10-ten ... -for-ever/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 12:50 pm
by citizenJA
RogerOThornhill wrote:What the fuck is wrong with some people?
Coronavirus Kent: Six ambulances have holes drilled in tyres in overnight attack in Ramsgate
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/new ... n8kvuriUUo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Paramedics on the frontline of the fight against coronavirus arrived at work to find holes drilled in the tyres of six ambulances.
The vehicles were taken off the road after the damage was discovered at a vehicle preparation centre in Ramsgate shortly after 7am today.
urban yet village-like location here
I'm concerned by increased and persistent reckless private-use motor vehicles operation
Sounds like kids with stolen cars around here heard on several different occasions
It's atypical, not like this during other unexpected quiet times
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 12:52 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
gilsey wrote:gilsey wrote:David Allen Green
@davidallengreen
Bless all those confidently asserting that going for the initial two years was just a negotiating ploy to get the six months
As if we had a rational approach to government policy
Not repeating yourself here, are you
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 12:56 pm
by citizenJA
I'd be more comfortable if I knew for certain government were merely careless and not actively malicious
I'm uncertain which it is right now
Might be both
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 1:03 pm
by PorFavor
Yes - good time to be trying to get away with pulling a fast one knowing that the likelihood of that would be causing people to have to waste time and effort in averting it. Very responsible. Not the time for farting around like that, surely?
Edited - style, not meaning. I just couldn't let it stand as it was.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 1:10 pm
by PorFavor
He [the Downing Street spokesman] said that, if Boris Johnson were to fall ill from coronavirus and be unable to carry out his duties, Dominic Raab, the foreign secretary and first secretary of state, would take over. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 1:16 pm
by citizenJA
@Willow904
Wishing you a safe, successful and swift provision procurement mission
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 1:23 pm
by PorFavor
I'm having trouble constructing decent sentences today. Hopefully, it will pass.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 1:27 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
PorFavor wrote:He [the Downing Street spokesman] said that, if Boris Johnson were to fall ill from coronavirus and be unable to carry out his duties, Dominic Raab, the foreign secretary and first secretary of state, would take over. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Oh, what joy.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 1:31 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:He [the Downing Street spokesman] said that, if Boris Johnson were to fall ill from coronavirus and be unable to carry out his duties, Dominic Raab, the foreign secretary and first secretary of state, would take over. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Love each other, flythenesters, while facing these tribulations
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 1:34 pm
by PorFavor
At first glance, I thought you were exhorting us to love Dominic Raab. Panic over.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 2:38 pm
by Willow904
citizenJA wrote:@Willow904
Wishing you a safe, successful and swift provision procurement mission
You can get everything eventually, the problem is you have to go out much more often and to more shops in order to do it - sort of the exact opposite of what you should be doing, unfortunately.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 2:44 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... le-at-risk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As do selfish cunts coming to close to you when you are trying to keep your distance.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 3:09 pm
by HindleA
Made vulnerable of course by Societal and Government inaction .If the past/current had been adequate there would no need for any suspensions.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 3:18 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Alex Salmond acquitted on all but one charge against him (which was a "not proven" verdict)
The fallout from this could be quite big.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 4:57 pm
by RogerOThornhill
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Wow. Now Tory MP Steve Double says "many people that we consider to be low skilled are actually pretty crucial to the smooth running of our country". Calls on Priti Patel to review the new points-based immigration system "to reflect the things we've learnt during this time".
3:34 PM - 23 Mar 2020
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 5:30 pm
by HindleA
"learnt- what utter arseholes we were/
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 5:35 pm
by HindleA
"learnt what utter twats we were"
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 5:38 pm
by citizenJA
RogerOThornhill wrote:
Benjamin Kentish LBC
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Wow. Now Tory MP Steve Double says "many people that we consider to be low skilled are actually pretty crucial to the smooth running of our country". Calls on Priti Patel to review the new points-based immigration system "to reflect the things we've learnt during this time".
3:34 PM - 23 Mar 2020
I can work with someone acknowledging their errors, stopping harm, repairing damage and not resuming known wrong
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 5:46 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:"learnt what utter twats we were"
This Tory dude told everyone he knows good from bad. He can't tweet once and let it ride. He's got a lot of work to do.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 7:26 pm
by frog222
Woohoo ! I cut down the tree shading my Dig for Victory garden, and finished splitting the logs just as it got dark . Also potted the various lettuce 'blocks' while I prepare the soil.
I've got an American book "The Victory Garden" , but it's of later date .
I hear that de Pfeffel is ""Addressing the Nation"" at 8.30 .
Surely that's a bit early for an 'After Dinner Speech' ?
I mean he made his name, and a lot of £££'s, when the audience was at LEAST half-cut .
OK, Will he avoid making anything remotely ressembling a JOKE tonight ?
Up to now he's managed to at least interject some ad-libbing , will his minders finally have him under control ?
Those dog-training collars which give them electric shocks spring to mind .
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:12 pm
by citizenJA
Are there flights still available for UK nationals getting back to the UK?
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:35 pm
by HindleA
A responsible government should have introduced rationing asap.I'm having to self arrange grocery stores keeping essential goods.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:36 pm
by frog222
citizenJA wrote:Are there flights still available for UK nationals getting back to the UK?
YOU ARE JOKING
The UK government tells you to take commercial flights, of which there are ................... NONE .
Too fucking incompetent/mean /undecided to charter any of the hundreds of planes now grou
nded
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:39 pm
by citizenJA
frog222 wrote:citizenJA wrote:Are there flights still available for UK nationals getting back to the UK?
YOU ARE JOKING
The UK government tells you to take commercial flights, of which there are ................... NONE .
Too fucking incompetent/mean /undecided to charter any of the hundreds of planes now grou
nded
I didn't think so.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:40 pm
by HindleA
Further a secure/safe delivery system of these goods .As evert it is s is the people that need them with less options rather than selfish grabbing bastards puttiing others at risk,that suffer.I.habeno truck with "making"GB proud on reliance of voluntary activity.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:42 pm
by HindleA
Brother (at risk)group stuck in own home in Brussels,must be bored he actually 'phoned me.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:42 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:A responsible government should have introduced rationing asap.I'm having to self arrange grocery stores keeping essential goods.
Yeah, getting food and other essentials has been a nerve-wracking business
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:43 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:Brother (at risk)group stuck in own home in Brussels,must be bored he actually 'phoned me.
Please give him my love.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:43 pm
by HindleA
"vulnerable"special is of fuck all use.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:43 pm
by frog222
citizenJA wrote:frog222 wrote:citizenJA wrote:Are there flights still available for UK nationals getting back to the UK?
YOU ARE JOKING
The UK government tells you to take commercial flights, of which there are ................... NONE .
Too fucking incompetent/mean /undecided to charter any of the hundreds of planes now grou
nded
I didn't think so.
BUT, now you do !
They are even worse than you thought ?
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:44 pm
by HindleA
Plus side is an alternative way to demise.
Re: Monday 23 March 2020
Posted: Mon 23 Mar, 2020 9:51 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:Further a secure/safe delivery system of these goods .As evert it is s is the people that need them with less options rather than selfish grabbing bastards puttiing others at risk,that suffer.I.habeno truck with "making"GB proud on reliance of voluntary activity.
Wholeheartedly agree. The citizen household doesn't keep a motor vehicle or multiple freezers. We're not alone in that. A third of all residents in our region don't own motor vehicles and rely on public transportation. The shop around the corner was thankfully better stocked today and greater protections evident but it's a little place. Maintaining a yard or two distance from others difficult. Sainsbury's website crashed. No openings for delivery or for pay and pick up. I'd be fine with pay and pick up. No openings to do so.